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Wow two Babe Ruths to come thru the same town in just a couple years...

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GLENDALE, Ariz. — As if expectations weren’t high enough for Eloy Jimenez.

White Sox fans are eagerly awaiting Jimenez’s ascension to the major leagues, which is anticipated to happen within the first few weeks of the 2019 season. He’s the top-ranked prospect in the organization and the No. 3 prospect in the game. His statistical output, light-tower power, ever-present confidence and scouting reports from every corner of the baseball world have previewed Jimenez as a superstar in the making.
Even general manager Rick Hahn acknowledged this offseason that the White Sox expect Jimenez to become the caliber of player that puts him the same category as the “premium talent” the team has pursued on this winter’s free-agent market: Bryce Harper and Manny Machado, two of the best players in baseball.
And now you can add a comparison to arguably the greatest hitter in history.
“I look at him as the Babe Ruth of our generation,” Michael Kopech said Saturday at Camelback Ranch.

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Eloy will be a better hitter than Schwarber, Kyle blew his liad in the WS.

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Eloy will be a better hitter than Schwarber, Kyle blew his liad in the WS.

For a time, I, too, had thought of him as being very Homer-esque.

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Kopech sounds as crazy as a typical Cub fan.

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Kopech sounds as crazy as a typical Cub fan.


Yes he is, like they are, insane.


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That trade is going to go down as the worst trade in Cub history...maybe MLB history. A .500 number 3-4 starter for perhaps the greatest DH ever and a top of the rotation starter.

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That trade is going to go down as the worst trade in Cub history...maybe MLB history. A .500 number 3-4 starter for perhaps the greatest DH ever and a top of the rotation starter.



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There was only one Babe Ruth in this town and it was Mike Fontenot.

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There was only one Babe Ruth in this town and it was Mike Fontenot.

Instead of getting easier, it's the hardest thing to take....
I'm addicted to Mike Fontenot; he's a hard habit to break.

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There was only one Babe Ruth in this town and it was Mike Fontenot.


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Wow two Babe Ruths to come thru the same town in just a couple years...

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GLENDALE, Ariz. — As if expectations weren’t high enough for Eloy Jimenez.

White Sox fans are eagerly awaiting Jimenez’s ascension to the major leagues, which is anticipated to happen within the first few weeks of the 2019 season. He’s the top-ranked prospect in the organization and the No. 3 prospect in the game. His statistical output, light-tower power, ever-present confidence and scouting reports from every corner of the baseball world have previewed Jimenez as a superstar in the making.
Even general manager Rick Hahn acknowledged this offseason that the White Sox expect Jimenez to become the caliber of player that puts him the same category as the “premium talent” the team has pursued on this winter’s free-agent market: Bryce Harper and Manny Machado, two of the best players in baseball.
And now you can add a comparison to arguably the greatest hitter in history.
“I look at him as the Babe Ruth of our generation,” Michael Kopech said Saturday at Camelback Ranch.


I get the reasons why, but Babe Ruth won't be make the roster out of spring training. Shows how talented the White Sox are.


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Mr. Reason wrote:
That trade is going to go down as the worst trade in Cub history...maybe MLB history. A .500 number 3-4 starter for perhaps the greatest DH ever and a top of the rotation starter.



Bad trade.. Cease won't stay healthy but he'll be lights out when he is..Eloy will be a monster. Dumbass trade, said it at the time

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Bad trade, probably won't be worst in MLB history or even Cub history.

Kopech is just firing it up a little, that's cool. Don't take everything so serious


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Mr. Reason wrote:
That trade is going to go down as the worst trade in Cub history...maybe MLB history. A .500 number 3-4 starter for perhaps the greatest DH ever and a top of the rotation starter.



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Position players havent even reported yet, and Cubs fans are already plenty worried about the Sox.

And they should be 8)

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Position players havent even reported yet, and Cubs fans are already plenty worried about the Sox.

And they should be 8)



Nobody is worried about a 75 win team.

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Bad trade, probably won't be worst in MLB history or even Cub history.

Kopech is just firing it up a little, that's cool. Don't take everything so serious



What is the worst cub trade historically?


Dempster for Hendricks might be the worst trade in Mlb history

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312player wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Bad trade, probably won't be worst in MLB history or even Cub history.

Kopech is just firing it up a little, that's cool. Don't take everything so serious



What is the worst cub trade historically?


Dempster for Hendricks might be the worst trade in Mlb history


Broglio for Brock

Worst trade in MLB history? Ruth to Yankees

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Broglio for Brock


That's only a bad trade in retrospect like the Quintana for Jimenez/Cease or Shields for Tatis might be. People forget what a brutal outfield Brock/Williams/Whoever would have been in a time when you didn't just slug your way to victory and defense mattered a lot more. If the Cubs win another World Series with Quintana playing a role I would argue that even if Jimenez turns out to be a Hall of Famer it wasn't a bad trade for the Cubs. The Shields trade was dumb because the Sox fooled themselves that that team was a contender. But Tatis was 16. Who knew he would turn out to be that good? People thought Lamar Hoyt for Ozzie WHO? was terrible. It didn't really turn out that way.

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Q wasn't on the first WS team, it was a dumb trade because Q is just a guy.. he's your average #3 or 4 starter. The guy has pitched worse since he came to the NL.

Shields was getting lit up in Petco, it was a firable offense to acquire that bum for no prospects.

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Q wasn't on the first WS team, it was a dumb trade because Q is just a guy.. he's your average #3 or 4 starter.


Right. and the Cubs didn't have one and had no way to get one as good as Quintana for the relatively small money he costs. You fantasize about prospects too much. Eloy Jimenez has exactly ZERO big league hits.

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Q wasn't on the first WS team, it was a dumb trade because Q is just a guy.. he's your average #3 or 4 starter.


Right. and the Cubs didn't have one and had no way to get one as good as Quintana for the relatively small money he costs. You fantasize about prospects too much. Eloy Jimenez has exactly ZERO big league hits.



I'm not big on prospects, it's rare I see one and believe he's destined for big things.. Eloy is one of the rare exceptions. I believe the Q trade was just to offset the horrendous Heyward deal.

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Q wasn't on the first WS team, it was a dumb trade because Q is just a guy.. he's your average #3 or 4 starter.


Right. and the Cubs didn't have one and had no way to get one as good as Quintana for the relatively small money he costs. You fantasize about prospects too much. Eloy Jimenez has exactly ZERO big league hits.

What a shame the White Sox wasted a whole year on phantom service time that will no longer exist after 2021. To me, it's almost as bad as the Shield trade.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Bad trade, probably won't be worst in MLB history or even Cub history.

Kopech is just firing it up a little, that's cool. Don't take everything so serious

I am not taking it serious...I just poking fun at the thought.

No one knows what Eloy and Cease will be....Could be a terrible trade....could be a meh trade for both.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Broglio for Brock


That's only a bad trade in retrospect like the Quintana for Jimenez/Cease or Shields for Tatis might be. People forget what a brutal outfield Brock/Williams/Whoever would have been in a time when you didn't just slug your way to victory and defense mattered a lot more. If the Cubs win another World Series with Quintana playing a role I would argue that even if Jimenez turns out to be a Hall of Famer it wasn't a bad trade for the Cubs. The Shields trade was dumb because the Sox fooled themselves that that team was a contender. But Tatis was 16. Who knew he would turn out to be that good? People thought Lamar Hoyt for Ozzie WHO? was terrible. It didn't really turn out that way.


any trade that leads to a world series title is justifiable.

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Q wasn't on the first WS team, it was a dumb trade because Q is just a guy.. he's your average #3 or 4 starter.


Right. and the Cubs didn't have one and had no way to get one as good as Quintana for the relatively small money he costs. You fantasize about prospects too much. Eloy Jimenez has exactly ZERO big league hits.

What a shame the White Sox wasted a whole year on phantom service time that will no longer exist after 2021. To me, it's almost as bad as the Shield trade.



Yeah, of course that will be addressed in the next CBA, but another issue that no one seems to talk about is that without heavy performance enhancers there's no guarantee that a guy's 27 year old season is going to be better than his 19 year old season would have been. Maybe you could actually contend if you weren't storing your best players in the minors.

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Q wasn't on the first WS team, it was a dumb trade because Q is just a guy.. he's your average #3 or 4 starter.


Right. and the Cubs didn't have one and had no way to get one as good as Quintana for the relatively small money he costs. You fantasize about prospects too much. Eloy Jimenez has exactly ZERO big league hits.

What a shame the White Sox wasted a whole year on phantom service time that will no longer exist after 2021. To me, it's almost as bad as the Shield trade.



Yeah, of course that will be addressed in the next CBA, but another issue that no one seems to talk about is that without heavy performance enhancers there's no guarantee that a guy's 27 year old season is going to be better than his 19 year old season would have been. Maybe you could actually contend if you weren't storing your best players in the minors.

Some people seem to think MLB made some rules and now PEDs are gone. They are not. Guys with money get the "untraceables" and by the time testing catches up, MLB WON'T go back and retest 3 or 4 year old samples.

Collusion. There it is. In black and white.


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Broglio for Brock


That's only a bad trade in retrospect like the Quintana for Jimenez/Cease or Shields for Tatis might be. People forget what a brutal outfield Brock/Williams/Whoever would have been in a time when you didn't just slug your way to victory and defense mattered a lot more. If the Cubs win another World Series with Quintana playing a role I would argue that even if Jimenez turns out to be a Hall of Famer it wasn't a bad trade for the Cubs. The Shields trade was dumb because the Sox fooled themselves that that team was a contender. But Tatis was 16. Who knew he would turn out to be that good? People thought Lamar Hoyt for Ozzie WHO? was terrible. It didn't really turn out that way.


any trade that leads to a world series title is justifiable.


Not true, he did fuckall for that team. He's hampering the club with that contract and putrid production. Now if he was a contributing factor..I'd live with it.

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Nardi wrote:
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Q wasn't on the first WS team, it was a dumb trade because Q is just a guy.. he's your average #3 or 4 starter.


Right. and the Cubs didn't have one and had no way to get one as good as Quintana for the relatively small money he costs. You fantasize about prospects too much. Eloy Jimenez has exactly ZERO big league hits.

What a shame the White Sox wasted a whole year on phantom service time that will no longer exist after 2021. To me, it's almost as bad as the Shield trade.



Yeah, of course that will be addressed in the next CBA, but another issue that no one seems to talk about is that without heavy performance enhancers there's no guarantee that a guy's 27 year old season is going to be better than his 19 year old season would have been. Maybe you could actually contend if you weren't storing your best players in the minors.

Some people seem to think MLB made some rules and now PEDs are gone. They are not. Guys with money get the "untraceables" and by the time testing catches up, MLB WON'T go back and retest 3 or 4 year old samples.

Collusion. There it is. In black and white.


Mlb needs to take blood and hair samples, store em and test later. Mlb is always gonna be 18 months behind the scientists mixing this shit up in a lab.

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Q wasn't on the first WS team, it was a dumb trade because Q is just a guy.. he's your average #3 or 4 starter.


Right. and the Cubs didn't have one and had no way to get one as good as Quintana for the relatively small money he costs. You fantasize about prospects too much. Eloy Jimenez has exactly ZERO big league hits.

What a shame the White Sox wasted a whole year on phantom service time that will no longer exist after 2021. To me, it's almost as bad as the Shield trade.



Yeah, of course that will be addressed in the next CBA, but another issue that no one seems to talk about is that without heavy performance enhancers there's no guarantee that a guy's 27 year old season is going to be better than his 19 year old season would have been. Maybe you could actually contend if you weren't storing your best players in the minors.

Some people seem to think MLB made some rules and now PEDs are gone. They are not. Guys with money get the "untraceables" and by the time testing catches up, MLB WON'T go back and retest 3 or 4 year old samples.

Collusion. There it is. In black and white.


Mlb needs to take blood and hair samples, store em and test later. Mlb is always gonna be 18 months behind the scientists mixing this shit up in a lab.

But it IS a nice bargaining chip for the new CBA. I think it is was a bargaining chip in the current one.


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