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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:28 pm 
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I gotta think it be damn near impossible to prove he sent that letter, unless this numbnuts kept the magazine after he cut out the letters. He opened it, his DNA would naturally be all over it. Unless he licked the stamp he won't be charged.



That's why Eddie Johnson has to be careful about making definitive statements. He might be creating problems for himself if it turns out that he is wrong.

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I gotta think it be damn near impossible to prove he sent that letter, unless this numbnuts kept the magazine after he cut out the letters. He opened it, his DNA would naturally be all over it. Unless he licked the stamp he won't be charged.



That's why Eddie Johnson has to be careful about making definitive statements. He might be creating problems for himself if it turns out that he is wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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From the beginning, Eddie Johnson's comments have been dumb. It never really made sense why he would come out guns blazing accusing Smollett of everything as though it were fact. He should have kept quiet until all legal proceedings were over.

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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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From the beginning, Eddie Johnson's comments have been dumb. It never really made sense why he would come out guns blazing accusing Smollett of everything as though it were fact. He should have kept quiet until all legal proceedings were over.



I agree. Charge the guy and say you have reason to believe that he staged the attack and move on. His editorializing of the incident could be a little problematic if it happens to go another way.

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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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Apparently nothing pertaining to the letter has been decided either. Johnson spoke as if he knew for certain that Smollett wrote the letter. Feds say nothing has been decided regarding that.

This is not proof the attack wasn't staged, but in a trial, all the defense has to do is create reasonable doubt, and we're told the Police Superintendent's pronouncement will become a defense weapon if the case goes to trial.

The Police Superintendent also said during the news conference Jussie himself sent the racist letter 8 days before the attack. Federal law enforcement sources tell us they have not concluded who wrote the letter ... at least not yet.

Anything's possible. We've all seen what experienced high powered lawyers can do. But at the end of the day, Jussie has to live with himself, whether he walks or not. Evading who you are and what you've done is never good in the long run.


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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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Didn't the authorities find evidence of the letter in the brothers' house (magazine, stamps?)
Wasn't Jussie on the phone with these 2 guys before and after the staged attack?
Weren't the brothers on tape buying the red hats and the twine/noose?
Didn't Jussie identify the 2 'attackers' based on that surveillance tape?
Did Jussie write "Definitely not payment for slapping me around" in the memo section on his personal check?

The whole thing is just laughable, but I'm sure Don Lemon will get to the 'bottom' of it all eventually.
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P.S. - His name is Jussie.
Just wanted to reiterate that fact.

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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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Seems that Terrence Howard dieedn't by Jussie's story from the beginning. He even confronted him about it last week.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/25/terrence ... -smollett/

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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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True of false?


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We live in a country where bigotry is commonplace. And that’s just as disgraceful and inexcusable as someone staging a fake attack.

True of false?


Not relevant. You're trying to normalize whataboutism. You're also unconsciously deflecting from the gravity of Smollet's lies.

Actually I was just trying to stir it up and get a ton of reactions and it worked very well.

Im not trying to normalize anything and Im not unconsciously deflecting from Smollet's lies. I've been very clear on Smollet.

I took a crazy article and made a thread more interesting. Take your arrogance and bubble gum pop psychology elsewhere, Vegan.


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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


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See Jorr, none of these pussies will even answer honestly. A poll would probably go 50-50


You are surprised?


No.. just surprised Rpb didn't answer. He has balls.

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See Jorr, none of these pussies will even answer honestly. A poll would probably go 50-50


You are surprised?


No.. just surprised Rpb didn't answer. He has balls.



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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


You're being a tad bit presumptuous about whether I think he is lying or not. I probably lean more towards him being a liar but I'm not going to be so quick to accept the words of two dudes making statements as a way to stay out the joint either.

When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.

So groupthink affirmations mean nothing to me. I think he is lying but I'm not willing to say for certain that I know he is lying.

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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


You're being a tad bit presumptuous about whether I think he is lying or not. I probably lean more towards him being a liar but I'm not going to be so quick to accept the words of two dudes making statements as a way to stay out the joint either.

When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.

So groupthink affirmations mean nothing to me. I think he is lying but I'm not willing to say for certain that I know he is lying.

I dont really care what you think either way. You're the only one here not in agreement about Smollet at this point. Just pointing out that fact.


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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


You're being a tad bit presumptuous about whether I think he is lying or not. I probably lean more towards him being a liar but I'm not going to be so quick to accept the words of two dudes making statements as a way to stay out the joint either.

When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.

So groupthink affirmations mean nothing to me. I think he is lying but I'm not willing to say for certain that I know he is lying.

I dont really care what you think either way. You're the only one here not in agreement about Smollet at this point. Just pointing out that fact.


There is no need to reference me in every argument. If you disagree with his statement simply disagree with the statement.

You're also misrepresenting my position while doing it.

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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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long time guy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


You're being a tad bit presumptuous about whether I think he is lying or not. I probably lean more towards him being a liar but I'm not going to be so quick to accept the words of two dudes making statements as a way to stay out the joint either.

When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.

So groupthink affirmations mean nothing to me. I think he is lying but I'm not willing to say for certain that I know he is lying.

I dont really care what you think either way. You're the only one here not in agreement about Smollet at this point. Just pointing out that fact.


There is no need to reference me in every argument. If you disagree with his statement simply disagree with the statement.

I dont reference you in every argument. I barely mention you. In this case, you were relevant since you are the only one with that opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


You're being a tad bit presumptuous about whether I think he is lying or not. I probably lean more towards him being a liar but I'm not going to be so quick to accept the words of two dudes making statements as a way to stay out the joint either.

When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.

So groupthink affirmations mean nothing to me. I think he is lying but I'm not willing to say for certain that I know he is lying.

I dont really care what you think either way. You're the only one here not in agreement about Smollet at this point. Just pointing out that fact.


There is no need to reference me in every argument. If you disagree with his statement simply disagree with the statement.

I dont reference you in every argument. I barely mention you. In this case, you were relevant since you are the only one with that opinion.


What opinion? I think he is lying too. I'm not for sure that he is lying as there are a few things that don't add up.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


rogers park bryan wrote:
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We live in a country where bigotry is commonplace.

True of false?


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We live in a country where bigotry is commonplace. And that’s just as disgraceful and inexcusable as someone staging a fake attack.

True of false?


Not relevant. You're trying to normalize whataboutism. You're also unconsciously deflecting from the gravity of Smollet's lies.

Actually I was just trying to stir it up and get a ton of reactions and it worked very well.

Im not trying to normalize anything and Im not unconsciously deflecting from Smollet's lies. I've been very clear on Smollet.

I took a crazy article and made a thread more interesting. Take your arrogance and bubble gum pop psychology elsewhere, Vegan.


Actually I think arrogance is to post an opinion you don't seem to hold only to get a reaction, receive a reaction to the post, and then criticize the reaction while still not explicitly admitting you posted something you seem to think was bullshit.

As for the bigotry post, I'm not trying to "score points" by saying he's lying. I'm saying those clinging to some bigotry angle with respect to this story are way off point and trying to muddle the waters. They are being disingenuous. Confused at best.

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When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.


That's not true. Most people thought there probably was an attack, but that it wasn't done by guys screaming, "I HATE F@GS AND DONALD TRUMP IS MY DADDY!!!"

The truth is worse. There was no real attack at all and you look dumber by the day twisting yourself into knots trying to justify this guy's bullshit.

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When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.


That's not true. Most people thought there probably was an attack, but that it wasn't done by guys screaming, "I HATE F@GS AND DONALD TRUMP IS MY DADDY!!!"

The truth is worse. There was no real attack at all and you look dumber by the day twisting yourself into knots trying to justify this guy's bullshit.


To whom? Dudes on this message board? I will be aight trust me.

Interesting choice of words seeing how you repeatedly look stupid tying yourself into knots (3 years worth of it) defending Trump's bullshit.

You're lying now if you are going to say that most believed that it occurred but were bothered by the verbiage. Most questioned whether the attack occurred at all. Remember the gaps in the video argument? I do.

If the police chief makes a false statement (which he did regarding the payment) that's a big deal. If he also makes a false statement about the threatening letter then that's a big deal.

If these guys told CPD one thing but told the grand jury something different that's a big deal.

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Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


rogers park bryan wrote:
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We live in a country where bigotry is commonplace.

True of false?


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We live in a country where bigotry is commonplace. And that’s just as disgraceful and inexcusable as someone staging a fake attack.

True of false?


Not relevant. You're trying to normalize whataboutism. You're also unconsciously deflecting from the gravity of Smollet's lies.

Actually I was just trying to stir it up and get a ton of reactions and it worked very well.

Im not trying to normalize anything and Im not unconsciously deflecting from Smollet's lies. I've been very clear on Smollet.

I took a crazy article and made a thread more interesting. Take your arrogance and bubble gum pop psychology elsewhere, Vegan.


Actually I think arrogance is to post an opinion you don't seem to hold only to get a reaction, receive a reaction to the post, and then criticize the reaction while still not explicitly admitting you posted something you seem to think was bullshit.

As for the bigotry post, I'm not trying to "score points" by saying he's lying. I'm saying those clinging to some bigotry angle with respect to this story are way off point and trying to muddle the waters. They are being disingenuous. Confused at best.

I posted no opinion.

I posted a question to get a reaction on a message board, which is pretty common. Im sorry you dont like it. I didnt write the article or post it.


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I posted no opinion.

I posted a question to get a reaction on a message board, which is pretty common. Im sorry you dont like it. I didnt write the article or post it.


If it's not your opinion and if you don't agree with it then why are you so uptight about my reaction? Maybe next time you can do a better job of separating your opinion from things you quote in your own post. Anyway, why so serious if we're on the same page?

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Poor Veganfan. I would tell him to stick to the NBA section but he doesn't really fare any better there


[Insert cheap quip about you needing to verify your claims while holding up today's newspaper in front of a browser that displays this thread]

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When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.


That's not true. Most people thought there probably was an attack, but that it wasn't done by guys screaming, "I HATE F@GS AND DONALD TRUMP IS MY DADDY!!!"

The truth is worse. There was no real attack at all and you look dumber by the day twisting yourself into knots trying to justify this guy's bullshit.


So because there might have been a staged attack it proves that there actually was an attack? Some logic. Take that doubters!

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When the story first broke MANY on here doubted that there was even an attack (staged or not) at all. Then they doubted whether the two guys leaving the scene were the actual attackers. Turns out they were wrong on both counts.


That's not true. Most people thought there probably was an attack, but that it wasn't done by guys screaming, "I HATE F@GS AND DONALD TRUMP IS MY DADDY!!!"

The truth is worse. There was no real attack at all and you look dumber by the day twisting yourself into knots trying to justify this guy's bullshit.


So because there might have been a stages attack it proves that there actually was an attack? Some logic. Take that doubters!



You're not making this a better board.

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RPB playing the role of AOC in this thread.

Yeah, that's what I wrote, but that's not what I meant! It's just a discussion starter!

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Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


You're being a tad bit presumptuous about whether I think he is lying or not. I probably lean more towards him being a liar but I'm not going to be so quick to accept the words of two dudes making statements as a way to stay out the joint either.
Really? Then how do you explain this post:

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As far as "evidence" of criminal activities goes Cohen is currently providing that. Trump can't be prosecuted but that doesn't mean he hasn't committed a crime.
Cohen was trying to "stay out of the joint", wasn't he? Yet you seemed almost eager to accept every word he said as gospel about Trump's activities.

So on the one hand, you're not willing to accept the words of two guys who say they were asked by Smollett to help stage a fake hate crime against him because they're trying to avoid jail time, but on the other you're willing to believe most anything said by Cohen, because he's trying to limit jail time.

Hmmm, I wonder why you might take these starkly different approaches to believing someone who is singing to try to avoid legal issues? What could be driving that....


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See Jorr, none of these pussies will even answer honestly. A poll would probably go 50-50


You are surprised?


No.. just surprised Rpb didn't answer. He has balls.



:lol: :lol:

Jealous of a board member who is respected by some here?



I'm laughing at at a reference to you having balls when it comes to racial discussions.

And you know why I laughed too.

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Bigotry has no place anywhere. It also has no place in a discussion about this lying dumb bitch.

That's a very dumb opinion.

Everyone here other than LTG is pretty much in lockstep on Smollet being a lying piece of shit. You get no points for that and we're all just kind of assuming it as true at this point.


You're being a tad bit presumptuous about whether I think he is lying or not. I probably lean more towards him being a liar but I'm not going to be so quick to accept the words of two dudes making statements as a way to stay out the joint either.
Really? Then how do you explain this post:

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As far as "evidence" of criminal activities goes Cohen is currently providing that. Trump can't be prosecuted but that doesn't mean he hasn't committed a crime.
Cohen was trying to "stay out of the joint", wasn't he? Yet you seemed almost eager to accept every word he said as gospel about Trump's activities.

So on the one hand, you're not willing to accept the words of two guys who say they were asked by Smollett to help stage a fake hate crime against him because they're trying to avoid jail time, but on the other you're willing to believe most anything said by Cohen, because he's trying to limit jail time.

Hmmm, I wonder why you might take these starkly different approaches to believing someone who is singing to try to avoid legal issues? What could be driving that....


LTG is the most unbiased guy at CFMB.

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 Post subject: Re: Jussie Smollet
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

LTG is the most unbiased guy at CFMB.


I agree. You have the top cop misspeaking about the nature of the payment. You have the top cop apparently misspeaking about the letter. You have the two guys involved apparently changing their story once they went before the grand jury.


Do I think Jussie lying? yeah I think he is lying but there are some things that are troubling. I don't think those two guys would be in the vicinity at 2 A.M. unless they were instructed to be there. So from that standpoint its going to be tough for him to skate the charges. If it were two random guys then yeah but not two guys that you are unfamiliar with.

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