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How do you guys know all this shit about the weapons? You watch "How it's Made" all day?

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Neither country will drop nukes. Mr. Would be Warmongerer himself getting himself lathered up at the prospects however. 1 Billion deaths. Ok. Continue listening to this idiot and fall off a cliff
Or better yet die in a fire or "kill yourself". Nukes are deterrents. No country really wants to use them. That's why there have only been two dropped in history.

A shitty ass terrorist organization isn't enough to start a nuclear exchange. Damn idiot once again providing false info.


Sure, it's Ogie that sounds like the idiot in this discussion. Because it only happened once before, it will never happen again. Right.



It actually happened twice. Over 70 years ago when nukes were less powerful. I'm not interested in silly conjecture from a dude only interested in presenting counterarguments all the time.

There is no way in hell either country would risk nuclear destruction over a 3rd rate terrorist organization. I'm not going to argue over it as it's a waste and if you don't believe history is a good indicator then you're dumber than first imagined.

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India has just bombed a large target in Pakistan. Reportedly a terror camp belonging to JeM. 10-12 Mirage 2000s were used and crossed the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir between India and Pakistan. Despite fighting a minor war in 1999, this is the first time India has crossed the LoC since 1971

This appears to be in retribution for the bombing that killed 40 Indian soldiers a few weeks ago. Why is this relevant? Because Pakistan has said they would respond to any move across the LoC, despite the fact Pakistan was harboring the terrorists who blew up the Indian soldiers.

Both countries are nuclear armed and this is the 1st conflict where both sides can deliver as in 1999, Pakistan didn't have any delivery systems for their recently tested bomb. While a regional nuclear war seems like it would be far from a worry for us, the soot put into the air by the consumption of cities, forests, etc. would be sufficient to block out enough sun to lead to global famine would likely kill 10-20% of the global population.

So keep an eye out on this and hope that cooler heads prevail. If Pakistan is smart, they would acknowledge this is the price for harboring JeM within their territory and let the Indian strike pass. However, their rhetoric seems to suggest otherwise.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pakista ... ol-1999288


How arrogant do you have to be to think that a bomb the size of a VW Bug that's detonated half-way around the world could possibly have any effect on the rest of the world?

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
India has just bombed a large target in Pakistan. Reportedly a terror camp belonging to JeM. 10-12 Mirage 2000s were used and crossed the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir between India and Pakistan. Despite fighting a minor war in 1999, this is the first time India has crossed the LoC since 1971

This appears to be in retribution for the bombing that killed 40 Indian soldiers a few weeks ago. Why is this relevant? Because Pakistan has said they would respond to any move across the LoC, despite the fact Pakistan was harboring the terrorists who blew up the Indian soldiers.

Both countries are nuclear armed and this is the 1st conflict where both sides can deliver as in 1999, Pakistan didn't have any delivery systems for their recently tested bomb. While a regional nuclear war seems like it would be far from a worry for us, the soot put into the air by the consumption of cities, forests, etc. would be sufficient to block out enough sun to lead to global famine would likely kill 10-20% of the global population.

So keep an eye out on this and hope that cooler heads prevail. If Pakistan is smart, they would acknowledge this is the price for harboring JeM within their territory and let the Indian strike pass. However, their rhetoric seems to suggest otherwise.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pakista ... ol-1999288


How arrogant do you have to be to think that a bomb the size of a VW Bug that's detonated half-way around the world could possibly have any effect on the rest of the world?
The sarcasm is strong in this post

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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India has just bombed a large target in Pakistan. Reportedly a terror camp belonging to JeM. 10-12 Mirage 2000s were used and crossed the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir between India and Pakistan. Despite fighting a minor war in 1999, this is the first time India has crossed the LoC since 1971

This appears to be in retribution for the bombing that killed 40 Indian soldiers a few weeks ago. Why is this relevant? Because Pakistan has said they would respond to any move across the LoC, despite the fact Pakistan was harboring the terrorists who blew up the Indian soldiers.

Both countries are nuclear armed and this is the 1st conflict where both sides can deliver as in 1999, Pakistan didn't have any delivery systems for their recently tested bomb. While a regional nuclear war seems like it would be far from a worry for us, the soot put into the air by the consumption of cities, forests, etc. would be sufficient to block out enough sun to lead to global famine would likely kill 10-20% of the global population.

So keep an eye out on this and hope that cooler heads prevail. If Pakistan is smart, they would acknowledge this is the price for harboring JeM within their territory and let the Indian strike pass. However, their rhetoric seems to suggest otherwise.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pakista ... ol-1999288


How arrogant do you have to be to think that a bomb the size of a VW Bug that's detonated half-way around the world could possibly have any effect on the rest of the world?
The sarcasm is strong in this post


The earth's been around for 6,000 years worth of volcanoes, floods, and frog rain. You're telling me one measly bomb can change the weather pattern of the entire world? Get me some of whatever you're smoking.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Neither country will drop nukes. Mr. Would be Warmongerer himself getting himself lathered up at the prospects however. 1 Billion deaths. Ok. Continue listening to this idiot and fall off a cliff
Or better yet die in a fire or "kill yourself". Nukes are deterrents. No country really wants to use them. That's why there have only been two dropped in history.

A shitty ass terrorist organization isn't enough to start a nuclear exchange. Damn idiot once again providing false info.


Sure, it's Ogie that sounds like the idiot in this discussion. Because it only happened once before, it will never happen again. Right.



It actually happened twice. Over 70 years ago when nukes were less powerful. I'm not interested in silly conjecture from a dude only interested in presenting counterarguments all the time.

There is no way in hell either country would risk nuclear destruction over a 3rd rate terrorist organization. I'm not going to argue over it as it's a waste and if you don't believe history is a good indicator then you're dumber than first imagined.


You don't know a thing about history. You have a bullshit education degree from a piece of shit school like Chicago State, and you act like you are a tenured professor because you are the smartest guy at some foul smelling club on the southside that has bars on it's windows.

If you think you are god's chosen people there is no telling what you will do with what you perceive as absolute power.

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The idea of a limited nuclear exchange intrigues me. We have no idea what a modern nuke on a modern city would look like. Plus this would add to the Indian's "super power by 2020" claims

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The idea of a limited nuclear exchange intrigues me. We have no idea what a modern nuke on a modern city would look like. Plus this would add to the Indian's "super power by 2020" claims

I don't know shit, but my gut feeling is Pakistan shouldn't fuck too hard with India. They actually have an economy and technology and over a billion people. Yes, they shit in the streets but ....which one of us hasn't?


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Trump coming to South Asia really unsettled them :lol:

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The idea of a limited nuclear exchange intrigues me. We have no idea what a modern nuke on a modern city would look like. Plus this would add to the Indian's "super power by 2020" claims

I don't know shit, but my gut feeling is Pakistan shouldn't fuck too hard with India. They actually have an economy and technology and over a billion people. Yes, they shit in the streets but ....which one of us hasn't?


You'd think that they'd have learned from the last two decades of Sadaam's rule and military planning.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Neither country will drop nukes. Mr. Would be Warmongerer himself getting himself lathered up at the prospects however. 1 Billion deaths. Ok. Continue listening to this idiot and fall off a cliff
Or better yet die in a fire or "kill yourself". Nukes are deterrents. No country really wants to use them. That's why there have only been two dropped in history.

A shitty ass terrorist organization isn't enough to start a nuclear exchange. Damn idiot once again providing false info.


Sure, it's Ogie that sounds like the idiot in this discussion. Because it only happened once before, it will never happen again. Right.



It actually happened twice. Over 70 years ago when nukes were less powerful. I'm not interested in silly conjecture from a dude only interested in presenting counterarguments all the time.

There is no way in hell either country would risk nuclear destruction over a 3rd rate terrorist organization. I'm not going to argue over it as it's a waste and if you don't believe history is a good indicator then you're dumber than first imagined.


You don't know a thing about history. You have a bullshit education degree from a piece of shit school like Chicago State, and you act like you are a tenured professor because you are the smartest guy at some foul smelling club on the southside that has bars on it's windows.

If you think you are god's chosen people there is no telling what you will do with what you perceive as absolute power.



I always knew you were ignorant. And stupid. Saying that you have a diploma from Olive Harvey's, or in your case Truman's adult learning division is too much credit for a blithering idiot such as yourself.

You are so stupid that you will roll with anything just to try have credibility. Can tell your dumbass anything and if I were to ask you to provide one reason why you think nukes are on the verge of being dropped you couldn't.

You aren't even smart enough to have attained useful idiot status yet you comport yourself as some sort of distinguished (message board anyway) intellectual.

You are stupid as shit. It's why clowns like Ogie can tell you anything and not be challenged on it. Where you are concerned it's safe to say that he does know his intended audience.

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He feels strongly about that.

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long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Neither country will drop nukes. Mr. Would be Warmongerer himself getting himself lathered up at the prospects however. 1 Billion deaths. Ok. Continue listening to this idiot and fall off a cliff
Or better yet die in a fire or "kill yourself". Nukes are deterrents. No country really wants to use them. That's why there have only been two dropped in history.

A shitty ass terrorist organization isn't enough to start a nuclear exchange. Damn idiot once again providing false info.


Sure, it's Ogie that sounds like the idiot in this discussion. Because it only happened once before, it will never happen again. Right.



It actually happened twice. Over 70 years ago when nukes were less powerful. I'm not interested in silly conjecture from a dude only interested in presenting counterarguments all the time.

There is no way in hell either country would risk nuclear destruction over a 3rd rate terrorist organization. I'm not going to argue over it as it's a waste and if you don't believe history is a good indicator then you're dumber than first imagined.


Happened way more than two times if you count all the open air testing that was done.

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fuck the Paks,they are the biggest bunch of dicks in the world. Cause more trouble than they are worth. Only reason the yare still around is because we have been propping them up for the entirety of their existence.

Here is what each of the mis estimated to have Nuke wise from the World Military balance 2016 edition
India
MSL • STRATEGIC 54
ICBM Agni V (in test)
IRBM Agni III (entering service); Agni IV (in test)
MRBM ε12 Agni II
SRBM 42: ε12 Agni I; ε30 SS-250 Prithvi II; some SS-350
Dhanush (naval testbed)
LACM Nirbhay (likely nuclear capable; in development)
Some Indian Air Force assets (such as Mirage 2000H or Su-
30MKI) may be tasked with a strategic role

Pakistan

Army Strategic Forces Command 12,000-
15,000
Commands all land-based strategic nuclear forces.
EQUIPMENT BY TYPE
MSL • STRATEGIC 60+
MRBM ε30 Ghauri/Ghauri II (Hatf-5)/Shaheen-2 (Hatf-6
– in test); Shaheen-3 (in test)
SRBM 30+: ε30 Ghaznavi (Hatf-3 – PRC M-11)/Shaheen-1
(Hatf-4); some Abdali (Hatf-2); some Nasr (Hatf-9)
LACM Babur (Hatf-7); Ra’ad (Hatf-8 – in test)
Air Force
1-2 sqn of F-16A/B or Mirage 5 may be assigned a nuclearstrike
role

India as can be seen has a huge lead. Plus in conventional forces India would steamroll the Paks

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chaspoppcap wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Neither country will drop nukes. Mr. Would be Warmongerer himself getting himself lathered up at the prospects however. 1 Billion deaths. Ok. Continue listening to this idiot and fall off a cliff
Or better yet die in a fire or "kill yourself". Nukes are deterrents. No country really wants to use them. That's why there have only been two dropped in history.

A shitty ass terrorist organization isn't enough to start a nuclear exchange. Damn idiot once again providing false info.


Sure, it's Ogie that sounds like the idiot in this discussion. Because it only happened once before, it will never happen again. Right.



It actually happened twice. Over 70 years ago when nukes were less powerful. I'm not interested in silly conjecture from a dude only interested in presenting counterarguments all the time.

There is no way in hell either country would risk nuclear destruction over a 3rd rate terrorist organization. I'm not going to argue over it as it's a waste and if you don't believe history is a good indicator then you're dumber than first imagined.


Happened way more than two times if you count all the open air testing that was done.



Don't reach merely for the sake of disagreeing Chas. Nukes have only been dropped twice in history. Testing doesn't count and its patently absurd to think that either country would risk Mutually Assured Destruction over a ragtag terrorist group.

I've seen fear mongering perpetrated on the good people of this message board on more than several occasions but nothing quite like the snake oil this dupe is selling.


Good to know he has useful idiot WFR riding shotgun with him however. Worst ally since Tojo.

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long time guy wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Neither country will drop nukes. Mr. Would be Warmongerer himself getting himself lathered up at the prospects however. 1 Billion deaths. Ok. Continue listening to this idiot and fall off a cliff
Or better yet die in a fire or "kill yourself". Nukes are deterrents. No country really wants to use them. That's why there have only been two dropped in history.

A shitty ass terrorist organization isn't enough to start a nuclear exchange. Damn idiot once again providing false info.


Sure, it's Ogie that sounds like the idiot in this discussion. Because it only happened once before, it will never happen again. Right.



It actually happened twice. Over 70 years ago when nukes were less powerful. I'm not interested in silly conjecture from a dude only interested in presenting counterarguments all the time.

There is no way in hell either country would risk nuclear destruction over a 3rd rate terrorist organization. I'm not going to argue over it as it's a waste and if you don't believe history is a good indicator then you're dumber than first imagined.


Happened way more than two times if you count all the open air testing that was done.



Don't reached merely for the sake of disagreeing Chas. Nukes have only been dropped twice in history. Testing doesn't count and its patently absurd to think that either country would risk Mutually Assured Destruction over a ragtag terrorist group.

I've seen fear mongering perpetrated on the good people of this message board on more than several occasions but nothing quite like the snake oil this dupe is selling.


Good to know he has useful idiot WFR riding shotgun with him however. Worst ally since Tojo.


In all seriousness ,those two countries have been building to a breaking point for years. Remember the Hotel attack that was planed by the Pak CIA? I thought that would be the breaking point. I have always said we backed the wrong people in this race,Indians are far more honorable and trustworthy than these jackholes.
A lot of Military/political analysts have been for years been saying that this was the place where WW3 was going to start.Pick up any edition of Dunnigains ,How to Make War and the only scenario besides Arab/Jew that is in the cook from first to 5th is this one.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
long time guy wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Neither country will drop nukes. Mr. Would be Warmongerer himself getting himself lathered up at the prospects however. 1 Billion deaths. Ok. Continue listening to this idiot and fall off a cliff
Or better yet die in a fire or "kill yourself". Nukes are deterrents. No country really wants to use them. That's why there have only been two dropped in history.

A shitty ass terrorist organization isn't enough to start a nuclear exchange. Damn idiot once again providing false info.


Sure, it's Ogie that sounds like the idiot in this discussion. Because it only happened once before, it will never happen again. Right.



It actually happened twice. Over 70 years ago when nukes were less powerful. I'm not interested in silly conjecture from a dude only interested in presenting counterarguments all the time.

There is no way in hell either country would risk nuclear destruction over a 3rd rate terrorist organization. I'm not going to argue over it as it's a waste and if you don't believe history is a good indicator then you're dumber than first imagined.


Happened way more than two times if you count all the open air testing that was done.



Don't reached merely for the sake of disagreeing Chas. Nukes have only been dropped twice in history. Testing doesn't count and its patently absurd to think that either country would risk Mutually Assured Destruction over a ragtag terrorist group.

I've seen fear mongering perpetrated on the good people of this message board on more than several occasions but nothing quite like the snake oil this dupe is selling.


Good to know he has useful idiot WFR riding shotgun with him however. Worst ally since Tojo.


In all seriousness ,those two countries have been building to a breaking point for years. Remember the Hotel attack that was planed by the Pak CIA? I thought that would be the breaking point. I have always said we backed the wrong people in this race,Indians are far more honorable and trustworthy than these jackholes.
A lot of Military/political analysts have been for years been saying that this was the place where WW3 was going to start.Pick up any edition of Dunnigains ,How to Make War and the only scenario besides Arab/Jew that is in the cook from first to 5th is this one.


Yeah Pakistan was created because there was antipathy and the Pakistanis created nukes to keep India at bay. That however, is a long way from suggesting that a nuclear exchange is imminent.

Definitely not going to drop nukes over a rinky dink terrorist organization.

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No,they will drop Nukes if the escalation keeps up. It is not going to be a sudden exchange. But if Paks keep fucking with the Indians,they are going to cross the border in force. Once that happens and it looks like Karachi is going to fall,you better bet those missiles are going to fly.

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How do you guys know all this shit about the weapons? You watch "How it's Made" all day?


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How do you guys know all this shit about the weapons? You watch "How it's Made" all day?


It's my hobby

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How do you guys know all this shit about the weapons? You watch "How it's Made" all day?

:lol:

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I believe the 2A allows for recreational nukes

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India has just bombed a large target in Pakistan. Reportedly a terror camp belonging to JeM. 10-12 Mirage 2000s were used and crossed the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir between India and Pakistan. Despite fighting a minor war in 1999, this is the first time India has crossed the LoC since 1971

This appears to be in retribution for the bombing that killed 40 Indian soldiers a few weeks ago. Why is this relevant? Because Pakistan has said they would respond to any move across the LoC, despite the fact Pakistan was harboring the terrorists who blew up the Indian soldiers.

Both countries are nuclear armed and this is the 1st conflict where both sides can deliver as in 1999, Pakistan didn't have any delivery systems for their recently tested bomb. While a regional nuclear war seems like it would be far from a worry for us, the soot put into the air by the consumption of cities, forests, etc. would be sufficient to block out enough sun to lead to global famine would likely kill 10-20% of the global population.

So keep an eye out on this and hope that cooler heads prevail. If Pakistan is smart, they would acknowledge this is the price for harboring JeM within their territory and let the Indian strike pass. However, their rhetoric seems to suggest otherwise.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pakista ... ol-1999288

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The Pakistani Armed Forces spokesperson has a Twitter account with 2 million followers. It's pretty interesting to read. He talks shit about India, and says the attack did no damage. What's interesting about looking at this conflict on Twitter is that the users in the region use Twitter similarly to how we use it in the US. Except, they trash talk about how worthless and weak India or Pakistan is. And how their armed forces will annihilate the other side. Pretty frightening.


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The Pakistani Armed Forces spokesperson has a Twitter account with 2 million followers. It's pretty interesting to read. He talks shit about India, and says the attack did no damage. What's interesting about looking at this conflict on Twitter is that the users in the region use Twitter similarly to how we use it in the US. Except, they trash talk about how worthless and weak India or Pakistan is. And how their armed forces will annihilate the other side. Pretty frightening.


Just look at a story on FB by a major news outlet regarding this and the comment section will be a shit show of them pumping their chests.

The wise move for Pakistan would be to swallow their pride and accept the strike as the cost of harboring terrorists. They have the head of JeM in protective custody right now so they have to expect Indian strikes are going to happen after the events of the past few weeks.

Unfortunately, Pakistan doesn't seem ready to do that. Reportedly they are meeting tomorrow to determine their response. If they just accepted this strike, the crisis would calm and be over in a week.

There is a lot of cross-border artillery right now, but that isn't unusual in Kashmir.

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Pajeets on the internet are such a joke. It's just broken English and requests for nudes.

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Pajeets on the internet are such a joke. It's just broken English and requests for nudes.

The Indians keep spamming pictures of the Paki generals surrendering after the 1971 war :lol:

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Is the 1 Billion dead prognostication an embellishment or a lie? Is the prediction regarding the impending doom of both countries an embellishment or a lie?

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