I really thought they'd get Manny

I know you did. I thought you and everyone else who thought that were insane the entire time.

I dont think this was the old Jerry thing of let's come in second so it looks like we tried. I think they really wanted him..

I tell my boys that everything they want in life, 10 other people want and 2 of them will literally slit your throat to get it, so what are you willing to do to get what you want?

It was all set up.

I tell my boys that everything they want in life, 10 other people want and 2 of them will literally slit your throat to get it, so what are you willing to do to get what you want?

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

I guess kill people.

In interview, Kenny Williams addresses fan anger and the fallout of White Sox missing out on Manny Machado and Bryce Harper
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Manny Machado is still a San Diego Padre. Bryce Harper is still a Philadelphia Phillie. And White Sox fans are still angry.

No, nothing's changed since earlier Thursday, when Harper broke Machado's week-and-change-old record for the biggest free-agent contract in the history of American pro sports, officially leaving the White Sox empty handed in their pursuits of the two biggest names on this offseason's free-agent market.

Neither guy ended up on the South Side, despite the fact that the team went after both, going especially hard on Machado, to the point where general manager Rick Hahn and team vice president Kenny Williams seemed blindsided when the 26-year-old infielder spurned them for the Padres last week.

Well, more than a week later, Williams voiced his opinion on the fallout in an interview with the Sun-Times' Daryl Van Schouwen, addressing the harsh reaction of fans who have taken to social media to express their outrage with the team's effort and approach to the negotiations.

"I was going to say it has already passed for us but Rick and I were talking about it yesterday, and it ain’t bleeping passed," Williams told Van Schouwen. "It’s a shame if it’s being portrayed that we were on the cheap on this thing. That’s really interesting because, holy s**t, that’s a quarter of a billion dollars we offered with a chance to be higher than what he’s getting."

White Sox fans have indeed attacked the front office for being cheap, and Williams is not exactly wrong in correcting them there. The White Sox committed to spend as much as $350 million on Machado. That is, by definition, the opposite of cheap.

But it doesn't take someone with inside info to figure out that the reason Machado is playing for the Padres right now is that there was a $50 million difference in the amount of guaranteed money in the two offers. The White Sox only offered $250 million guaranteed, while the Padres offered $300 million guaranteed. Machado went with the latter. And while Williams is not wrong in arguing that the White Sox offer could have made Machado richer over time, if Machado breaks his leg tomorrow, he'll be $50 million richer than he would have been had he signed with the White Sox.

That's a big difference. And a lot of fans feel the White Sox could've and should've done more, what with the financial flexibility they've talked about for so many months. Williams, though, thinks they did the best they could have done.

"There is nothing I can say that will make them feel better," Williams told Van Schouwen. "Rest assured that no one is feeling what Rick and I are feeling because every single day since June of last year, this is what we had planned for, the pursuit of both Harper and Machado. Harper (was) well out of our range. With Machado we extended ourselves as far as we could without jeopardizing what we’re going to need to do in the future.

"People are lost on the fact that on a yearly basis our offer was more than San Diego’s. The average annual value was 31 (million dollars) and change. So it was about years guaranteed. So there is an argument that could be made that our offer was the better of the two. It certainly had more upside for him. All he had to do was basically stay healthy."

Williams spoke the morning news of Machado's deal with the Padres broke, and his comments then irked a lot of fans, as he said part of the reason the White Sox couldn't commit more guaranteed dollars to Machado now was that they needed to plan for the day when their current prospects and young major leaguers need new contracts. That might be true, but it's at least half a decade down the road.

Well, the fans who were miffed by those comments that day won't be happy about these new ones, with Williams doubling down on that explanation.

"Our fans would have been much more disappointed in our inability to keep this next core together," Williams told Van Schouwen. "We would have overextended ourselves had we gone to an uncomfortable level."

The social-media rage is unlikely to subside, and these comments, coupled with the outcome of both pursuits, do little to disprove what Hahn referred to as a "false narrative" at SoxFest that the White Sox would not spend enough to bring top-of-the-line free agents to the South Side. No matter the effort level in the pursuits or the potential money committed, until the White Sox win a high-profile free-agent derby, that narrative, true or false, will remain intact.

In situations like these, money always seems to do the majority of the talking. Williams confirming that the White Sox were unwilling to spend what it ended up taking to land each of these free agents shows they might not have been having the same conversation as other teams, at least not the Padres with Machado or the Phillies with Harper.

It was all set up.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

@ Frank carrying water for White Sox management.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

It really is quite the scene.

Frank has no room to bitch at Keyser any longer with the way he has handled their choices this offseason.

Anyone that believes they made their best offer and could not go any higher is delusional.

They got undressed by the Padres.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

I dont think this was the old Jerry thing of let's come in second so it looks like we tried. I think they really wanted him.

When is the next time a prime free agent will be available and the Yanks, Red Sox, and Cubs are not in and the Dodgers are half in?

Im not trolling, I really thought they'd get Manny and it would be a perfect move for them. Take pressure of Moncada, give the fans a bone, coming into his prime as Eloy shows up.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

I think they did make their best offer.

And that is the problem with them.

They think they're smarter than everyone else when in reality they ride the short bus.

In CFMB terms, they're like 312player calling someone else stupid.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

I think they did make their best offer.

And that is the problem with them.

They think they're smarter than everyone else when in reality they ride the short bus.

In CFMB terms, they're like 312player calling someone else stupid.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

It really is quite the scene.

Frank has no room to bitch at Keyser any longer with the way he has handled their choices this offseason.

Anyone that believes they made their best offer and could not go any higher is delusional.

They got undressed by the Padres.

I think they did make their best offer.

And that is the problem with them.

They think they're smarter than everyone else when in reality they ride the short bus.

In CFMB terms, they're like 312player calling someone else stupid.

FACTS

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Frank isnt carrying a damn thing.

He's not wrong.

I am sure you would have found a way to complain against that too.

$1 billion to a single player. GTFO with that nonsense. You can buy an entire franchise for a billion dollars.

Over the years, I think there are MANY things that the Sox have done on and off the field that are petty and cheap.

IMO, offering a player $250million guaranteed isn't one of those things.

Yes it is.

When this is all over, which is not going to be for a while, Trump will be re-elected President.

So Spiegel said today on the radio that only 3 players in MLB had 550 plate appearances last year at the age the White Sox incentives would kick in. All of them were a DH. So the Sox deal was adding incentives that he would be unlikely to see.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

Willing and able are different things.

The offer was what they considered their best offer even though they didn't meet the price that everyone knew about since October.