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I'd say his ceiling is Fernando Vina. A much better comp.

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I'd say his ceiling is Fernando Vina. A much better comp.

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.280 hitter hitter with zero power and below average infielder. That's not a real high ceiling.


I just said it wasn't his ceiling, you dumbfuck!

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Ceiling: Brian Roberts


Another bad comp, Roberts had some power and lotta K's.. Madrigal is a guy who doesn't K much and little power.

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312player wrote:
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.280 hitter hitter with zero power and below average infielder. That's not a real high ceiling.


I just said it wasn't his ceiling, you dumbfuck!

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Ceiling: Brian Roberts


Another bad comp, Roberts had some power and lotta K's.. Madrigal is a guy who doesn't K much and little power.

It's a not a comp, it's a ceiling. The comp is Ryan Theriot.

Another good one might be Howie Kendrick.
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I think his ceiling is Tony Fernandez, minus the ability to play SS.

I think his more likely outcome is Harold Reynolds, minus the post-career sexual harassment charges.

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1987 Paul Molitor seems like a reasonable ceiling.

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I think his ceiling is Tony Fernandez, minus the ability to play SS.

I think his more likely outcome is Harold Reynolds, minus the post-career sexual harassment charges.


Hey, don't sell him short!

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Will he ever have as good a season as Tadahito Iguchi did in 2005?

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Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

Ive always understood career year to mean a year waaay out of line with the guy's averages. Not just a player's best year.


Estaban Loaiza, Mike Bielecki, Brady Anderson etc
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

Ive always understood career year to mean a year waaay out of line with the guy's averages. Not just a player's best year.


Estaban Loaiza, Mike Bielecki, Brady Anderson etc



Don't you think Rizzo is on the decline? He has his two year peak. He may throw another good one in there,

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

Ive always understood career year to mean a year waaay out of line with the guy's averages. Not just a player's best year.


Estaban Loaiza, Mike Bielecki, Brady Anderson etc



Don't you think Rizzo is on the decline? He has his two year peak. He may throw another good one in there,

Rizzo will earn the rest of his very team-friendly contract, but he has to be the 3rd or maybe even 4th option offensively or they are fucked. Defensively, he's one of the best 3-4 1B in the game. But he wants to be this generation's Santo, but with both legs intact.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

Ive always understood career year to mean a year waaay out of line with the guy's averages. Not just a player's best year.


Estaban Loaiza, Mike Bielecki, Brady Anderson etc



Don't you think Rizzo is on the decline? He has his two year peak. He may throw another good one in there,

Yea, probably but he had a bunch of similar years to his best one. Nothing stands out as WHOA, he was waaay better that year.
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

Ive always understood career year to mean a year waaay out of line with the guy's averages. Not just a player's best year.


Estaban Loaiza, Mike Bielecki, Brady Anderson etc

I always just thought it simply meant best year of career, regardless of by what degree.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

Ive always understood career year to mean a year waaay out of line with the guy's averages. Not just a player's best year.


Estaban Loaiza, Mike Bielecki, Brady Anderson etc



Don't you think Rizzo is on the decline? He has his two year peak. He may throw another good one in there,

Rizzo will earn the rest of his very team-friendly contract, but he has to be the 3rd or maybe even 4th option offensively or they are fucked. Defensively, he's one of the best 3-4 1B in the game. But he wants to be this generation's Santo, but with both legs intact.

He's not that good defensively anymore.

He is still a solid 25 Homer 90 RBI guy, but those are a dime a dozen at his position. I do think he is an important leader for the Cubs though.
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FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

Ive always understood career year to mean a year waaay out of line with the guy's averages. Not just a player's best year.


Estaban Loaiza, Mike Bielecki, Brady Anderson etc

I always just thought it simply meant best year of career, regardless of by what degree.

Yea, and I see some other people who see it as you do.

If that's the case then what do we call a career journeyman winning 21 games or hitting 40 homers out of nowhere (besides cheaters)
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Yeah numbnuts, this reminds me of when Rizzo had his career year. Lol

I'm going to enjoy watching this shit show unfold.



He did though.

Ive always understood career year to mean a year waaay out of line with the guy's averages. Not just a player's best year.


Estaban Loaiza, Mike Bielecki, Brady Anderson etc

I always just thought it simply meant best year of career, regardless of by what degree.

Yea, and I see some other people who see it as you do.

If that's the case then what do we call a career journeyman winning 21 games or hitting 40 homers out of nowhere (besides cheaters)

A byproduct of the inherent randomness of baseball even in pretty large samples.

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