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If I was depressed I don't think going to India would help matters.

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If I was depressed I don't think going to India would help matters.


Maybe if you had to fend off tigers, you would value your eggs at breakfast a little more?

Plus the whole meditating thing. Ask George Harrison.

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If we are going to get all serious here, I live comfortably and I obviously had some issues, given my missteps. There was a combination of things which led to substances. While I take my fair share of blame, I would disagree with Denis that I just started abusing chemicals and it caused all my problems. My response to the problem was not a well-adjusted one, but the cause of many people's issues is simply how we live today. The world we live in is out of balance with how we evolved. For example, we have adrenaline and a fight-or-flight response for specific reasons. We needed that jolt to fend off a predator or perhaps kill prey. Due to our evolution and modern technology, we now have that fight-or-flight response turned on constantly. Computer screens, traffic lights, horns, telephones, Twitter, etc. These things are not natural. We are the only species who have evolved so far that we don't have to worry about our next meal or, in the case of wealthy countries, having a roof over our heads.

While none of that is natural, there are constructive ways to deal with these dilemmas. Spirituality is something that many use. Serving others is another way. There are many others. We have to get out of our own heads. Our modern lifestyles are too leisurely and void of purpose. Though I'm not religious, I do now see why religion has always been around and why it is in many ways necessary. When you reach a certain level of wealth... and make no mistake - everyone who even posts on this board is in the wealthiest 1% of 1% of human beings who have ever lived... you have a lot of time, a lot of "stuff", small families, and no real immediate worries. That's not how we were designed. There has to be more to it. I do think that some people naturally understand that and adapt to it well without much effort. Others, such as myself, have to work for it. It took me awhile to realize that.

You should read that article I linked. I think you'd find it interesting. Covers a lot of the same ground as this post.


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If we are going to get all serious here, I live comfortably and I obviously had some issues, given my missteps. There was a combination of things which led to substances. While I take my fair share of blame, I would disagree with Denis that I just started abusing chemicals and it caused all my problems. My response to the problem was not a well-adjusted one, but the cause of many people's issues is simply how we live today. The world we live in is out of balance with how we evolved. For example, we have adrenaline and a fight-or-flight response for specific reasons. We needed that jolt to fend off a predator or perhaps kill prey. Due to our evolution and modern technology, we now have that fight-or-flight response turned on constantly. Computer screens, traffic lights, horns, telephones, Twitter, etc. These things are not natural. We are the only species who have evolved so far that we don't have to worry about our next meal or, in the case of wealthy countries, having a roof over our heads.

While none of that is natural, there are constructive ways to deal with these dilemmas. Spirituality is something that many use. Serving others is another way. There are many others. We have to get out of our own heads. Our modern lifestyles are too leisurely and void of purpose. Though I'm not religious, I do now see why religion has always been around and why it is in many ways necessary. When you reach a certain level of wealth... and make no mistake - everyone who even posts on this board is in the wealthiest 1% of 1% of human beings who have ever lived... you have a lot of time, a lot of "stuff", small families, and no real immediate worries. That's not how we were designed. There has to be more to it. I do think that some people naturally understand that and adapt to it well without much effort. Others, such as myself, have to work for it. It took me awhile to realize that.

You should read that article I linked. I think you'd find it interesting. Covers a lot of the same ground as this post.


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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... le/583441/

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If I was depressed I don't think going to India would help matters.


Maybe if you had to fend off tigers, you would value your eggs at breakfast a little more?

Plus the whole meditating thing. Ask George Harrison.

George Harrison's dead, man.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm


The Unabomber Manifesto is one of the most accurate pieces ever written.

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If I was depressed I don't think going to India would help matters.
If I had to go to India, I wouldn't go to the bathroom the entire trip.

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If I was depressed I don't think going to India would help matters.


Maybe if you had to fend off tigers, you would value your eggs at breakfast a little more?

Plus the whole meditating thing. Ask George Harrison.

George Harrison's dead, man.


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Listen, if you create a thread every time WfR has a terrible thought, you are going to be a busy man.


You are funny. There is another one.

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I've been depressed that I haven't been able to get out and golf yet.

Not trying to marginalize people who kill themselves due to depression, but I've been in a real rut lately and honestly I think part of it is due to the terrible weather. Sometimes just a nice walk in mild temperatures with the sun beating down on you can put you into your own little world. Doing something like this has literally nothing to do with how many or how few zeros or commas are on your paycheck.

I know exactly how you feel. I used to get like this every winter because I had zero winter hobbies. This year I picked up skiing and curling and winter has been much more enjoyable.

This is also the first full winter with our pup. The wife and I have been taking the pooch on walks through forest preserves and to the Beck Lake Dog Park (40 acres fenced-in). As long as you're properly dressed it's an please hour spent outside.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm


The Unabomber Manifesto is one of the most accurate pieces ever written.


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28. The leftist of the oversocialized type tries to get off his psychological leash and assert his autonomy by rebelling. But usually he is not strong enough to rebel against the most basic values of society. Generally speaking, the goals of today’s leftists are NOT in conflict with the accepted morality.

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This is also the greatest "aside" in human history -

(We do not mean to imply that primitive cultures ARE inferior to ours. We merely point out the hypersensitivity of leftish anthropologists.)

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34. Consider the hypothetical case of a man who can have anything he wants just by wishing for it. Such a man has power, but he will develop serious psychological problems. At first he will have a lot of fun, but by and by he will become acutely bored and demoralized. Eventually he may become clinically depressed. History shows that leisured aristocracies tend to become decadent. This is not true of fighting aristocracies that have to struggle to maintain their power. But leisured, secure aristocracies that have no need to exert themselves usually become bored, hedonistic and demoralized, even though they have power. This shows that power is not enough. One must have goals toward which to exercise one’s power.

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29. Here is an illustration of the way in which the oversocialized leftist shows his real attachment to the conventional attitudes of our society while pretending to be in rebellion against it. Many leftists push for affirmative action, for moving black people into high-prestige jobs, for improved education in black schools and more money for such schools; the way of life of the black “underclass” they regard as a social disgrace. They want to integrate the black man into the system, make him a business executive, a lawyer, a scientist just like upper-middle-class white people. The leftists will reply that the last thing they want is to make the black man into a copy of the white man; instead, they want to preserve African American culture. But in what does this preservation of African American culture consist? It can hardly consist in anything more than eating black-style food, listening to black-style music, wearing black-style clothing and going to a black- style church or mosque. In other words, it can express itself only in superficial matters. In all ESSENTIAL respects most leftists of the oversocialized type want to make the black man conform to white, middle-class ideals. They want to make him study technical subjects, become an executive or a scientist, spend his life climbing the status ladder to prove that black people are as good as white. They want to make black fathers “responsible,” they want black gangs to become nonviolent, etc. But these are exactly the values of the industrial-technological system. The system couldn’t care less what kind of music a man listens to, what kind of clothes he wears or what religion he believes in as long as he studies in school, holds a respectable job, climbs the status ladder, is a “responsible” parent, is nonviolent and so forth. In effect, however much he may deny it, the oversocialized leftist wants to integrate the black man into the system and make him adopt its values.


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WfR stripping humanity away from wealthy balcks? Quelle surprise.


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29. Here is an illustration of the way in which the oversocialized leftist shows his real attachment to the conventional attitudes of our society while pretending to be in rebellion against it. Many leftists push for affirmative action, for moving black people into high-prestige jobs, for improved education in black schools and more money for such schools; the way of life of the black “underclass” they regard as a social disgrace. They want to integrate the black man into the system, make him a business executive, a lawyer, a scientist just like upper-middle-class white people. The leftists will reply that the last thing they want is to make the black man into a copy of the white man; instead, they want to preserve African American culture. But in what does this preservation of African American culture consist? It can hardly consist in anything more than eating black-style food, listening to black-style music, wearing black-style clothing and going to a black- style church or mosque. In other words, it can express itself only in superficial matters. In all ESSENTIAL respects most leftists of the oversocialized type want to make the black man conform to white, middle-class ideals. They want to make him study technical subjects, become an executive or a scientist, spend his life climbing the status ladder to prove that black people are as good as white. They want to make black fathers “responsible,” they want black gangs to become nonviolent, etc. But these are exactly the values of the industrial-technological system. The system couldn’t care less what kind of music a man listens to, what kind of clothes he wears or what religion he believes in as long as he studies in school, holds a respectable job, climbs the status ladder, is a “responsible” parent, is nonviolent and so forth. In effect, however much he may deny it, the oversocialized leftist wants to integrate the black man into the system and make him adopt its values.



Sounds like u. I like my balcks confined to the ghetto where they may listen to the rap music and wear baggy jeans and be violent all day.

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Of course, but I don't feel bad for them because of online harassment.

Me neither. But the “work a real job then talk to me about depression” is about as dumb as a statement can be.


Almost as dumb as "A fertilized embryo is a baby".

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Of course, but I don't feel bad for them because of online harassment.

Me neither. But the “work a real job then talk to me about depression” is about as dumb as a statement can be.


Almost as dumb as "A fertilized embryo is a baby".


Don't shit up the thread.

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29. Here is an illustration of the way in which the oversocialized leftist shows his real attachment to the conventional attitudes of our society while pretending to be in rebellion against it. Many leftists push for affirmative action, for moving black people into high-prestige jobs, for improved education in black schools and more money for such schools; the way of life of the black “underclass” they regard as a social disgrace. They want to integrate the black man into the system, make him a business executive, a lawyer, a scientist just like upper-middle-class white people. The leftists will reply that the last thing they want is to make the black man into a copy of the white man; instead, they want to preserve African American culture. But in what does this preservation of African American culture consist? It can hardly consist in anything more than eating black-style food, listening to black-style music, wearing black-style clothing and going to a black- style church or mosque. In other words, it can express itself only in superficial matters. In all ESSENTIAL respects most leftists of the oversocialized type want to make the black man conform to white, middle-class ideals. They want to make him study technical subjects, become an executive or a scientist, spend his life climbing the status ladder to prove that black people are as good as white. They want to make black fathers “responsible,” they want black gangs to become nonviolent, etc. But these are exactly the values of the industrial-technological system. The system couldn’t care less what kind of music a man listens to, what kind of clothes he wears or what religion he believes in as long as he studies in school, holds a respectable job, climbs the status ladder, is a “responsible” parent, is nonviolent and so forth. In effect, however much he may deny it, the oversocialized leftist wants to integrate the black man into the system and make him adopt its values.



Sounds like u. I like my balcks confined to the ghetto where they may listen to the rap music and wear baggy jeans and be violent all day.


As long as they stay off Twitter they will be happy.

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Of course, but I don't feel bad for them because of online harassment.

Me neither. But the “work a real job then talk to me about depression” is about as dumb as a statement can be.


Almost as dumb as "A fertilized embryo is a baby".


Don't shit up the thread.

Agreed. He embarrassed himself enough yesterday.

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Of course, but I don't feel bad for them because of online harassment.

Me neither. But the “work a real job then talk to me about depression” is about as dumb as a statement can be.



Almost as dumb as "A fertilized embryo is a baby".


Don't shit up the thread.

Agreed. He embarrassed himself enough yesterday.


A libertarian arguing against liberty. Weird.

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I've been depressed that I haven't been able to get out and golf yet.

Not trying to marginalize people who kill themselves due to depression, but I've been in a real rut lately and honestly I think part of it is due to the terrible weather. Sometimes just a nice walk in mild temperatures with the sun beating down on you can put you into your own little world. Doing something like this has literally nothing to do with how many or how few zeros or commas are on your paycheck.

My dog had really bad gas pains last night and I took her out for a 11:50PM walk and she did feel much better. And she is not rich at all, in fact, she owns nothing.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Of course, but I don't feel bad for them because of online harassment.

Me neither. But the “work a real job then talk to me about depression” is about as dumb as a statement can be.



Almost as dumb as "A fertilized embryo is a baby".


Don't shit up the thread.

Agreed. He embarrassed himself enough yesterday.


A libertarian arguing against liberty. Weird.


I guess we're gonna shit it up, huh?

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Of course, but I don't feel bad for them because of online harassment.

Me neither. But the “work a real job then talk to me about depression” is about as dumb as a statement can be.



Almost as dumb as "A fertilized embryo is a baby".


Don't shit up the thread.

Agreed. He embarrassed himself enough yesterday.


A libertarian arguing against liberty. Weird.

Libertarians don't condone murder I don't think.

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I've been depressed that I haven't been able to get out and golf yet.

Not trying to marginalize people who kill themselves due to depression, but I've been in a real rut lately and honestly I think part of it is due to the terrible weather. Sometimes just a nice walk in mild temperatures with the sun beating down on you can put you into your own little world. Doing something like this has literally nothing to do with how many or how few zeros or commas are on your paycheck.

My dog had really bad gas pains last night and I took her out for a 11:50PM walk and she did feel much better. And she is not rich at all, in fact, she owns nothing.


I'm sorry your dog's poor.

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I guess we're gonna shit it up, huh?


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If we are going to get all serious here, I live comfortably and I obviously had some issues, given my missteps. There was a combination of things which led to substances. While I take my fair share of blame, I would disagree with Denis that I just started abusing chemicals and it caused all my problems. My response to the problem was not a well-adjusted one, but the cause of many people's issues is simply how we live today. The world we live in is out of balance with how we evolved. For example, we have adrenaline and a fight-or-flight response for specific reasons. We needed that jolt to fend off a predator or perhaps kill prey. Due to our evolution and modern technology, we now have that fight-or-flight response turned on constantly. Computer screens, traffic lights, horns, telephones, Twitter, etc. These things are not natural. We are the only species who have evolved so far that we don't have to worry about our next meal or, in the case of wealthy countries, having a roof over our heads.

While none of that is natural, there are constructive ways to deal with these dilemmas. Spirituality is something that many use. Serving others is another way. There are many others. We have to get out of our own heads. Our modern lifestyles are too leisurely and void of purpose. Though I'm not religious, I do now see why religion has always been around and why it is in many ways necessary. When you reach a certain level of wealth... and make no mistake - everyone who even posts on this board is in the wealthiest 1% of 1% of human beings who have ever lived... you have a lot of time, a lot of "stuff", small families, and no real immediate worries. That's not how we were designed. There has to be more to it. I do think that some people naturally understand that and adapt to it well without much effort. Others, such as myself, have to work for it. It took me awhile to realize that.



I think purpose and true gratitude are important.


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