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White people complaining that they can’t say the word also is a much bigger problem.

Who here is doing that?

WFR, leash, and Jorr from what I can tell. Anyone saying “why can black folks say it but I can’t?” qualifies imo.



I disagree

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White people: remember that word we came up with to insult and belittle you?

Black people: do you mean the one we've since repurposed within our own culture?

White people: yeah, that one! You shouldn't use that word anymore.


You're a lawyer. Tell me how you would write the rule that allows some players to use a word and others not to. How would you word that?



Like to hear his rebuttal, it's absolutely ridiculous to try to allow one race to use a word and forbid any others to use it. Absurd.

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How many N-bombs do you think are dropped by players during an NFL game? Does MLB have a zero tolerance policy about its use on the field?


Absolutely. Same with NBA games.

I was at Bears training camp as a kid. Heard a few N-bombs. Heard a bunch of other shit too.

You know what would be a bad ass move?

Next time Joe West is behind the plate at a Sox game, Tim Anderson should look back and him in his first at bat and say "What up N****r"

That would be awesome. It would be worth him being tossed. It would be epic.


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The NFL set the precedent almost 5 years ago. I believe that they have handed out several fines and also called penalties for it.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2014/07/29/nfl-will-have-zero-tolerance-for-on-field-use-of-racial-and-homophobic-slurs-players-are-told-in-leagues-officiating-video/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bf79f4a637c6

The NFL adopted set the precedent almost 5 years ago. I believe that they have handed out several fines and also called penalties for it.


Can you still say cocksucker and mother fucker? Cuz if you can't say those words it's not worth playing football.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2014/07/29/nfl-will-have-zero-tolerance-for-on-field-use-of-racial-and-homophobic-slurs-players-are-told-in-leagues-officiating-video/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bf79f4a637c6

The NFL adopted set the precedent almost 5 years ago. I believe that they have handed out several fines and also called penalties for it.


Can you still say cocksucker and mother fucker? Cuz if you can't say those words it's not worth playing football.

Absolutely, provided you say it with dignity and respect.

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If you have to resort to “racism is a problem” then you likely have no argument. Especially when you are the least educated among yourself and the group you are accusing. Move to Englewood if you feel like Schaumburg is too racist for you.

You often seem to confuse educated with college degrees. As Mark Twain said, I never let my schooling interfere with my education. Not to mention guys like you who continually dismiss racism as a problem come off as pretty uneducated regarding almost everything.

Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.

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There are millions of people with masters degrees that are racist.

Not all racists are Mike North's kind.


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leashyourkids wrote:
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White people: remember that word we came up with to insult and belittle you?

Black people: do you mean the one we've since repurposed within our own culture?

White people: yeah, that one! You shouldn't use that word anymore.


You're a lawyer. Tell me how you would write the rule that allows some players to use a word and others not to. How would you word that?



Like to hear his rebuttal, it's absolutely ridiculous to try to allow one race to use a word and forbid any others to use it. Absurd.


Read the thread, baby.

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2014/07/29/nfl-will-have-zero-tolerance-for-on-field-use-of-racial-and-homophobic-slurs-players-are-told-in-leagues-officiating-video/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bf79f4a637c6

The NFL set the precedent almost 5 years ago. I believe that they have handed out several fines and also called penalties for it.

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White people complaining that they can’t say the word also is a much bigger problem.

Who here is doing that?

WFR, leash, and Jorr from what I can tell. Anyone saying “why can black folks say it but I can’t?” qualifies imo.

You need to add Roger Goodell to your list.

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Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.


:lol: This is absolutely ridiculous, and it has nothing to do with race.

You live in Naperville, but you would gladly move to one of the most dangerous places in America to prove how not racist you are? Come on, man. Think about how absurd that sounds.

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Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.


:lol: This is absolutely ridiculous, and it has nothing to do with race.

You live in Naperville, but you would gladly move to one of the most dangerous places in America to prove how not racist you are? Come on, man. Think about how absurd that sounds.


It's only ridiculous if he has never been to Englewood.

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Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.


:lol: This is absolutely ridiculous, and it has nothing to do with race.

You live in Naperville, but you would gladly move to one of the most dangerous places in America to prove how not racist you are? Come on, man. Think about how absurd that sounds.
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Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.


:lol: This is absolutely ridiculous, and it has nothing to do with race.

You live in Naperville, but you would gladly move to one of the most dangerous places in America to prove how not racist you are? Come on, man. Think about how absurd that sounds.


Englewiod is fine to live in.
Englewood is a different story.

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Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.


:lol: This is absolutely ridiculous, and it has nothing to do with race.

You live in Naperville, but you would gladly move to one of the most dangerous places in America to prove how not racist you are? Come on, man. Think about how absurd that sounds.
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This guy gets it.

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4 pages on some guy close to his 40s who screens call at probably makes 50K at best for a living.

Herb the real winner. I forget he was still at the station.


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Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.


:lol: This is absolutely ridiculous, and it has nothing to do with race.

You live in Naperville, but you would gladly move to one of the most dangerous places in America to prove how not racist you are? Come on, man. Think about how absurd that sounds.


It's only ridiculous if he has never been to Englewood.


FavreFan Is kinda a bad ass.

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So it would be completely ok for Herb or Larry to refer to Bernsie as the n word?


Did Tim Anderson call someone that ?



Supposedly that's what he called the mediocre pitcher who hit him the other day.


So Anderson called a non-black pitcher the "n" word?

Why would he call a non-black person that or does he just use that word pretty commonly?


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leashyourkids wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.


:lol: This is absolutely ridiculous, and it has nothing to do with race.

You live in Naperville, but you would gladly move to one of the most dangerous places in America to prove how not racist you are? Come on, man. Think about how absurd that sounds.


It's only ridiculous if he has never been to Englewood.


FavreFan Is kinda a bad ass.


He's a heartbreaker and a life taker

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If you have to resort to “racism is a problem” then you likely have no argument. Especially when you are the least educated among yourself and the group you are accusing. Move to Englewood if you feel like Schaumburg is too racist for you.

You often seem to confuse educated with college degrees. As Mark Twain said, I never let my schooling interfere with my education. Not to mention guys like you who continually dismiss racism as a problem come off as pretty uneducated regarding almost everything.

Also, I’ve never lived in Schaumburg in my life and if I had a job offering what my current does I would move to Englewiod in a heartbeat. Not all of us are as scared of black folks as you are.


This entered the world of stupid long ago, but this might qualify as the dumbest thing said here. You clearly have a fear of black people if you can't say grow the fuck up you don't get special language rules that only apply to you because 60 years ago bad things happened to your relatives. I know you find it really deep to say "racism is a problem". But what does that even mean?

Honestly, where is the racism that it causing all these problems? There are laws against discrimination. I know you can't move because of your job and all that, but since you know that racism is causing all these problems point us in the direction of the racists so something can be done about it.

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Weird that WfR got appointed Arbiter of Words People Are Allowed To Say and told no one about said appointment.

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Weird that WfR got appointed Arbiter of Words People Are Allowed To Say and told no one about said appointment.


That brought a lot to the conversation. If you think we should have special rules for the way the language is spoken based on race/gender or other factors feel free to say why.

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Weird that WfR got appointed Arbiter of Words People Are Allowed To Say and told no one about said appointment.


That brought a lot to the conversation. If you think we should have special rules for the way the language is spoken based on race/gender or other factors feel free to say why.


You appear to be doing just that. And I provided a short (albeit jokey) answer to this question with my first post in this thread.

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He already explained that white people shouldn't get to tell black people not to repurpose a racial slur. Fair enough, but I still don't think any use of it is all that edifying.

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He already explained that white people shouldn't get to tell black people not to repurpose a racial slur. Fair enough, but I still don't think any use of it is all that edifying.



And wasn't similar thought obviously right in line with the MLB ruling? If the pitcher had called Anderson that, the consequences clearly would have been far greater than they were for Anderson using the word, but usage by anyone is discouraged. Is that really anything to be upset over?

Anderson is the guy who looks the best in this. He hasn't complained or really said much about it at all. He took his day and that's that.

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He already explained that white people shouldn't get to tell black people not to repurpose a racial slur. Fair enough, but I still don't think any use of it is all that edifying.


It's not about "repurposing". It's some strange revenge fantasy. You are into the self-loathing so maybe it appeals to you.

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Anyone who says things like "sit down and listen" or "you're out of your lane" solely because of the color of their skin ought to be sent to Guantanamo. And that's exactly what Herb did.

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He already explained that white people shouldn't get to tell black people not to repurpose a racial slur. Fair enough, but I still don't think any use of it is all that edifying.


It's not about "repurposing". It's some strange revenge fantasy. You are into the self-loathing so maybe it appeals to you.


Where are you getting this from?

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Anyone who says things like "sit down and listen" or "you're out of your lane" solely because of the color of their skin ought to be sent to Guantanamo. And that's exactly what Herb did.

And you still refuse to check your white privilege at the entrance..


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