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Dammit Timmy.


And he just made up for his fuckup with a walkoff bomb. Granted said walkoff bomb would not have been needed if Tim had just run like he was supposed to on Jose's HR.

I didn't watch the game...what does that mean he had just run like he was supposed to on a HR??


Abreau hit a 3 run HR in the 7th with Anderson on first. Anderson had to go back to first in case the ball was caught and when it wasn't he took his time starting to jog around the bases and Jose passed him by a step or two. Detroit challenged the play and Jose was called out and the HR was turned into a 2 run single.

Wow. No doubt Anderson should run, but how does a major leaguer like Jose pass him at all? Surely he knows that is a problem. Dumb on both sides


It was weird. Jose was trotting and then Tim sprinted back to first. Abreu tried to slow down but Tim ran by him.

Weird but Tim redeemed himself in two ways....


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High ankle sprain. No fracture.

Could be worse.


Most likely but sometimes a high ankle sprain is as bad or worse than a break.

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I with hold any thoughts on Eloy's injury until a specialist reviews his case.

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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?

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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?

Even though the ball is dead, there's still rules about touching them all, staying in the baseline, and of course, not pass a baserunner. There are perfectly good reasons for these rules.


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Aaron Bummer and the terrible Thaygo Vierra up.


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Lopez looks real sharp in the early going here.

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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?

Even though the ball is dead, there's still rules about touching them all, staying in the baseline, and of course, not pass a baserunner. There are perfectly good reasons for these rules.


I know there are rules. I say that the ones governing a home run into the seats are stupid. A ball hit into the stands involves no action on the part of the team on the field. IT cannot make a play on anyone so the passing of a runner means nothing except stupid tradition.

What do you think are the perfectly good reasons for requiring a runner not to pass another runner on a home run into the seats? I cannot think of any. The ball is DEAD. No play can occur if a ball is DEAD. I don't care if the baserunners do a conga line on their way to home plate. It is absolutely stupid.

Another stupid rule is the rule that was called on Abreu running outside of the allowed path to first base. I have always maintained that if a runner runs on a direct line to first base that he should never be called out for runner interference. He did not. All one has to do is to looks at how the first base bag is stationed. Ever look at the bag? 99.9% of the bag is inside the first base line, right? While the runner's so-called "path" to first base, takes him running in FOUL TERRITORY. It makes no logical sense at all. In other words technically the hitter running to first base has to basically lunge in order to hit the bag in fair territory. Why does the catcher control the line, anyway? If he has to make a throw to first, let him step INSIDE fair territory to make that throw. That baseline should not be entirely his.

I say that the hitter's path to the base should be a line that covers at least half of the bag as legal. He should have a right to at least half of that base bag and it would be consistent with other current rules regarding what part of a base a runner is "entitled to" in his attempt to score or to safely land on a stationary base.

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Terrifically pitched game today by Lopez and the relievers. I watched Jack Morris do the game on the Tigers channel and he was very interesting to listen to also and was fair in his analysis of all of the pitchers.

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That call on Abreu was b.s.. I'd never heard of getting called out for running on the foul line part of the basepath.

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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?

Even though the ball is dead, there's still rules about touching them all, staying in the baseline, and of course, not pass a baserunner. There are perfectly good reasons for these rules.


I know there are rules. I say that the ones governing a home run into the seats are stupid. A ball hit into the stands involves no action on the part of the team on the field. IT cannot make a play on anyone so the passing of a runner means nothing except stupid tradition.

What do you think are the perfectly good reasons for requiring a runner not to pass another runner on a home run into the seats? I cannot think of any. The ball is DEAD. No play can occur if a ball is DEAD. I don't care if the baserunners do a conga line on their way to home plate. It is absolutely stupid.

Another stupid rule is the rule that was called on Abreu running outside of the allowed path to first base. I have always maintained that if a runner runs on a direct line to first base that he should never be called out for runner interference. He did not. All one has to do is to looks at how the first base bag is stationed. Ever look at the bag? 99.9% of the bag is inside the first base line, right? While the runner's so-called "path" to first base, takes him running in FOUL TERRITORY. It makes no logical sense at all. In other words technically the hitter running to first base has to basically lunge in order to hit the bag in fair territory. Why does the catcher control the line, anyway? If he has to make a throw to first, let him step INSIDE fair territory to make that throw. That baseline should not be entirely his.

I say that the hitter's path to the base should be a line that covers at least half of the bag as legal. He should have a right to at least half of that base bag and it would be consistent with other current rules regarding what part of a base a runner is "entitled to" in his attempt to score or to safely land on a stationary base.

Delays the game. Would lead to a sort of end zone celebration except it would be on the field of play.
I agree with you on the path to 1st base. Every baseball player whose ever played agrees with you. The adjustment should be with the defense, not the runner.


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Terrifically pitched game today by Lopez and the relievers. I watched Jack Morris do the game on the Tigers channel and he was very interesting to listen to also and was fair in his analysis of all of the pitchers.



I've been saying this for 2 years.. if there is one guy I can poach from the Sox.. it's lopez . dude is gonna be a star.

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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?

Even though the ball is dead, there's still rules about touching them all, staying in the baseline, and of course, not pass a baserunner. There are perfectly good reasons for these rules.


I know there are rules. I say that the ones governing a home run into the seats are stupid. A ball hit into the stands involves no action on the part of the team on the field. IT cannot make a play on anyone so the passing of a runner means nothing except stupid tradition.

What do you think are the perfectly good reasons for requiring a runner not to pass another runner on a home run into the seats? I cannot think of any. The ball is DEAD. No play can occur if a ball is DEAD. I don't care if the baserunners do a conga line on their way to home plate. It is absolutely stupid.

Another stupid rule is the rule that was called on Abreu running outside of the allowed path to first base. I have always maintained that if a runner runs on a direct line to first base that he should never be called out for runner interference. He did not. All one has to do is to looks at how the first base bag is stationed. Ever look at the bag? 99.9% of the bag is inside the first base line, right? While the runner's so-called "path" to first base, takes him running in FOUL TERRITORY. It makes no logical sense at all. In other words technically the hitter running to first base has to basically lunge in order to hit the bag in fair territory. Why does the catcher control the line, anyway? If he has to make a throw to first, let him step INSIDE fair territory to make that throw. That baseline should not be entirely his.

I say that the hitter's path to the base should be a line that covers at least half of the bag as legal. He should have a right to at least half of that base bag and it would be consistent with other current rules regarding what part of a base a runner is "entitled to" in his attempt to score or to safely land on a stationary base.

Delays the game. Would lead to a sort of end zone celebration except it would be on the field of play.
I agree with you on the path to 1st base. Every baseball player whose ever played agrees with you. The adjustment should be with the defense, not the runner.


Is there not a celebration when the runners cross home plate? That was not the reason for the rule being put in in the first place. The reason for the rule was occasioned when there were at least two runners involved with baserunning on a play that is in the field. The baseball honchos just never thought out the instance of a home-run and base runners. They should, of course, change the rule. Hell, they changed the rule allowing an intentional walk being given without making the pitcher throw four balls. This should be changed as well because it is a stupid rule.

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Terrifically pitched game today by Lopez and the relievers. I watched Jack Morris do the game on the Tigers channel and he was very interesting to listen to also and was fair in his analysis of all of the pitchers.



I've been saying this for 2 years.. if there is one guy I can poach from the Sox.. it's lopez . dude is gonna be a star.


I don't know about that. A good starting pitcher needs to have AT LEAST two good pitches that he can spot. Lopez has only one, his fastball, and need to be able to control his change-up better than he has done or they will sit on his fastball and it is hittable. He also needs work on his slider which can become his out pitch if he can master the other two pitches. He has the stuff but I need to see a lot more out of him and his control before I would say he is going to be a star.

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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?

Even though the ball is dead, there's still rules about touching them all, staying in the baseline, and of course, not pass a baserunner. There are perfectly good reasons for these rules.


I know there are rules. I say that the ones governing a home run into the seats are stupid. A ball hit into the stands involves no action on the part of the team on the field. IT cannot make a play on anyone so the passing of a runner means nothing except stupid tradition.

What do you think are the perfectly good reasons for requiring a runner not to pass another runner on a home run into the seats? I cannot think of any. The ball is DEAD. No play can occur if a ball is DEAD. I don't care if the baserunners do a conga line on their way to home plate. It is absolutely stupid.

Another stupid rule is the rule that was called on Abreu running outside of the allowed path to first base. I have always maintained that if a runner runs on a direct line to first base that he should never be called out for runner interference. He did not. All one has to do is to looks at how the first base bag is stationed. Ever look at the bag? 99.9% of the bag is inside the first base line, right? While the runner's so-called "path" to first base, takes him running in FOUL TERRITORY. It makes no logical sense at all. In other words technically the hitter running to first base has to basically lunge in order to hit the bag in fair territory. Why does the catcher control the line, anyway? If he has to make a throw to first, let him step INSIDE fair territory to make that throw. That baseline should not be entirely his.

I say that the hitter's path to the base should be a line that covers at least half of the bag as legal. He should have a right to at least half of that base bag and it would be consistent with other current rules regarding what part of a base a runner is "entitled to" in his attempt to score or to safely land on a stationary base.

Delays the game. Would lead to a sort of end zone celebration except it would be on the field of play.
I agree with you on the path to 1st base. Every baseball player whose ever played agrees with you. The adjustment should be with the defense, not the runner.


Is there not a celebration when the runners cross home plate? That was not the reason for the rule being put in in the first place. The reason for the rule was occasioned when there were at least two runners involved with baserunning on a play that is in the field. The baseball honchos just never thought out the instance of a home-run and base runners. They should, of course, change the rule. Hell, they changed the rule allowing an intentional walk being given without making the pitcher throw four balls. This should be changed as well because it is a stupid rule.

There weren't fences.

How often does this happen. Once a decade? Change the rule and now we have to check replay on when exactly the ball became dead? The point here is Anderson thought it might be caught and Abreu knew it was out. In other words, shit happens.


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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?

Even though the ball is dead, there's still rules about touching them all, staying in the baseline, and of course, not pass a baserunner. There are perfectly good reasons for these rules.


I know there are rules. I say that the ones governing a home run into the seats are stupid. A ball hit into the stands involves no action on the part of the team on the field. IT cannot make a play on anyone so the passing of a runner means nothing except stupid tradition.

What do you think are the perfectly good reasons for requiring a runner not to pass another runner on a home run into the seats? I cannot think of any. The ball is DEAD. No play can occur if a ball is DEAD. I don't care if the baserunners do a conga line on their way to home plate. It is absolutely stupid.

Another stupid rule is the rule that was called on Abreu running outside of the allowed path to first base. I have always maintained that if a runner runs on a direct line to first base that he should never be called out for runner interference. He did not. All one has to do is to looks at how the first base bag is stationed. Ever look at the bag? 99.9% of the bag is inside the first base line, right? While the runner's so-called "path" to first base, takes him running in FOUL TERRITORY. It makes no logical sense at all. In other words technically the hitter running to first base has to basically lunge in order to hit the bag in fair territory. Why does the catcher control the line, anyway? If he has to make a throw to first, let him step INSIDE fair territory to make that throw. That baseline should not be entirely his.

I say that the hitter's path to the base should be a line that covers at least half of the bag as legal. He should have a right to at least half of that base bag and it would be consistent with other current rules regarding what part of a base a runner is "entitled to" in his attempt to score or to safely land on a stationary base.

Delays the game. Would lead to a sort of end zone celebration except it would be on the field of play.
I agree with you on the path to 1st base. Every baseball player whose ever played agrees with you. The adjustment should be with the defense, not the runner.


Is there not a celebration when the runners cross home plate? That was not the reason for the rule being put in in the first place. The reason for the rule was occasioned when there were at least two runners involved with baserunning on a play that is in the field. The baseball honchos just never thought out the instance of a home-run and base runners. They should, of course, change the rule. Hell, they changed the rule allowing an intentional walk being given without making the pitcher throw four balls. This should be changed as well because it is a stupid rule.

There weren't fences.

How often does this happen. Once a decade? Change the rule and now we have to check replay on when exactly the ball became dead? The point here is Anderson thought it might be caught and Abreu knew it was out. In other words, shit happens.


I looked it up and it happens more often than you think and a lot of them involve the same kind of situation with a runner on first tagging up on a deep fly ball. A long time ago, the great Lou Gehrig lost a home run kind of the same way when he hit a ball into the seats and the ball came back to the field and the runner on first thought the outfielder caught the ball and was trying to double him off of first.

I just think that this rule runs contrary to the spirit of the game which is to reward good performance. For example, some people accused Anderson of doing a stupid thing when he was hustling on the play and trying to get to second base with a key run. And Abreu hits a huge three run dinger and loses it because of a silly rule. They change baseball rules all of the time and should change this one.

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You know what else is a silly rule? That the batter who hits the Home Run has to touch all the bases. The ball already left the park, so let him bat flip and pump his fist, then just walk back to the dugout. It would speed the game up too!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:28 am 
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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?



It was the fault of everyone involved- Anderson, Abreu, and Boston. It was really fucking dumb.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?



It was the fault of everyone involved- Anderson, Abreu, and Boston. It was really fucking dumb.

Anderson was way too late to go back for a tag up. Abreu was watching the ball and then looked down when he saw it was gone. Boston really is the guy whose job this was. Fucking dumb? Nah, just a terrible result of strange circumstances that 3 different guys could have helped avoided and didn't.

Or, change the rule. That solves all problems in the world.


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Nardi wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?



It was the fault of everyone involved- Anderson, Abreu, and Boston. It was really fucking dumb.

Anderson was way too late to go back for a tag up. Abreu was watching the ball and then looked down when he saw it was gone. Boston really is the guy whose job this was. Fucking dumb? Nah, just a terrible result of strange circumstances that 3 different guys could have helped avoided and didn't.

Or, change the rule. That solves all problems in the world.



I don't think we need a rule change after more than 100 years just because Abreu didn't pay attention, Anderson went the wrong way, and Darryl Boston is a shitty first base coach.

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When Nate Jones came up, I always thought that he should have been a starter not a closer. IF you remember the guy he had FOUR GOOD PITCHES. Instead they tried to make a closer out of him and took two of his pitches away. He had a decent career as a reliever but I will always wonder what if he had been given a chance to start. Not too many pitchers I have seen had as good or better stuff when they first came up. I think that they blew it with Jones right at the start.

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