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You know what else is a silly rule? That the batter who hits the Home Run has to touch all the bases. The ball already left the park, so let him bat flip and pump his fist, then just walk back to the dugout. It would speed the game up too!


I agree. And they can even call the guy out if he doesn't touch all of the bases? Its a silly rule. THE FUCKING PLAY IS DEAD. A NEW BALL is thrown into play for cripes sake.

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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?



It was the fault of everyone involved- Anderson, Abreu, and Boston. It was really fucking dumb.


No it wasn't and that is the point. It is the rule that is dumb. Tell me, for example, what did Anderson do wrong? He was hustling back to first to try and tag up and represented a key run which could be brought in with a single, an error, etc. I don't know but I would bet that he thought that the ball was going to be caught and was trying to tag and get to 2nd base. Maybe Boston thought the same and called him back?

It is a silly rule complicated by replay. The people at a baseball game do not give a shit about one guy passing another guy by a foot or two on the bases after HOME-RUN gets hit and this stupid rule is unnecessary for a called home-run. Who cares what happens on a ball hit fair into the seats?

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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?



It was the fault of everyone involved- Anderson, Abreu, and Boston. It was really fucking dumb.

Anderson was way too late to go back for a tag up. Abreu was watching the ball and then looked down when he saw it was gone. Boston really is the guy whose job this was. Fucking dumb? Nah, just a terrible result of strange circumstances that 3 different guys could have helped avoided and didn't.

Or, change the rule. That solves all problems in the world.



I don't think we need a rule change after more than 100 years just because Abreu didn't pay attention, Anderson went the wrong way, and Darryl Boston is a shitty first base coach.


Baseball rules get changed all of the time and this is just another one that should be changed.

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JFC shut up. The rule is fine, and rarely is an issue. You erroneously claim it happened all the time, then use an example from the twenties when it happened to Lou Gehrig. Jorr is correct when he says all three were at fault.

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That call on Abreu was b.s.. I'd never heard of getting called out for running on the foul line part of the basepath.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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What happened was not Anderson's fault. His back was to the outfield when he headed back to first to tag up and is under the control of the first base coach, Boston, who controls the runners Anderson and Abreu. That is his job.

The entire idea of taking an out of the park home-run away from a player on a situation like this is ridiculous. When a ball is called a home-run by an umpire, play is called dead on the field. An umpire even puts another ball into the game. Its a stupid rule that even gets more complicated by the introduction of re-play and manager challenges. Who cares what runners want to do on the field after a called home-run, anyway? It makes no sense at all. :? :? :?



It was the fault of everyone involved- Anderson, Abreu, and Boston. It was really fucking dumb.

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I never doubted Tim Anderson.

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Tim Anderson is having a hell of a run.

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Tim Anderson is having a hell of a run.


All the haters got egg on their face.

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I wish Keyser was still posting to give me shit about Timmey. I deserve to eat some crow. He has to be AL Player of the Month.

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His ascendance coincides with Keyser's disappearance.

Coincidence?










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I still worry that Tim Anderson doesn't walk enough, and he is not going to hit .400 many months. Great run, but I worry about him long term.

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I still worry that Tim Anderson doesn't walk enough, and he is not going to hit .400 many months. Great run, but I worry about him long term.

Do what I did. Put the walks out of your head and pay attention to his weighted on base average. If it's .330+, be happy


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I'm more than happy to be wrong about Anderson.

do you feel the same about being wrong on Palka?

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I'm more than happy to be wrong about Anderson.

do you feel the same about being wrong on Palka?


Fuck you man cause time's gonna tell on that one...

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I'm more than happy to be wrong about Anderson.

do you feel the same about being wrong on Palka?


Fuck you man cause time's gonna tell on that one...


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I'm more than happy to be wrong about Anderson.

do you feel the same about being wrong on Palka?



Don't you worry about Palka. He's just getting some seasoning like Ian Happ.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I'm more than happy to be wrong about Anderson.

do you feel the same about being wrong on Palka?
Don't you worry about Palka. He's just getting some seasoning like Ian Happ.
....and close of the future Carl Edwards :lol: :lol:


I never rooted against Timmay, but didn't think he had this in him either. Hopefully this is a breakout season and this is the first of MANY All Star appearances for him.

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SS is a defense first position and he is currently sitting on 6 errors in one month.

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SS is a defense first position and he is currently sitting on 6 errors in one month.



Traditionally that's been true, but never before have so many outs been recorded via strikeout. That being the case, I think the importance of all defensive positions has been diminished. If Anderson can be the offensive force he has been so far this season (of course he's not going to hit .400), we can live with his defense.

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he'll hit something like .280 and 24. which is fine.

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SS is a defense first position and he is currently sitting on 6 errors in one month.



Traditionally that's been true, but never before have so many outs been recorded via strikeout. That being the case, I think the importance of all defensive positions has been diminished. If Anderson can be the offensive force he has been so far this season (of course he's not going to hit .400), we can live with his defense.

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SS is a defense first position and he is currently sitting on 6 errors in one month.



Traditionally that's been true, but never before have so many outs been recorded via strikeout. That being the case, I think the importance of all defensive positions has been diminished.


Which makes it all the more impressive he has 6 already.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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SS is a defense first position and he is currently sitting on 6 errors in one month.



Traditionally that's been true, but never before have so many outs been recorded via strikeout. That being the case, I think the importance of all defensive positions has been diminished. If Anderson can be the offensive force he has been so far this season (of course he's not going to hit .400), we can live with his defense.


yes, I think I can overlook some defensive deficiencies of a guy who hits .375 with 35HR and 60 SB

I think he has value as a SS even with last year's offensive production

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm more than happy to be wrong about Anderson.


Bryan Lahair once had a good April.

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I'm more than happy to be wrong about Anderson.


Bryan Lahair once had a good April.
We went thru this already; viewtopic.php?f=33&t=117276&start=60#p3208664

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JFC shut up. The rule is fine, and rarely is an issue. You erroneously claim it happened all the time, then use an example from the twenties when it happened to Lou Gehrig. Jorr is correct when he says all three were at fault.


What I said was not erroneous. You look it up. I took the time and did and this kind of thing happens more than you think it does. I merely mentioned Gehrig because he was on the list. Its a silly rule that was maybe put into place before they put fences up in ball parks. I may end up writing to major league baseball to recommend that they change this rule because of how silly it is.

A player should not lose a home-run because of something like this. It makes no sense since the ball is dead once an umpire makes a determination that the ball IS A HOME-RUN. So how in bloody hell can that be taken away from him when officially the play is DEAD.

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SS is a defense first position and he is currently sitting on 6 errors in one month.



In the age of the juiced ball especially, I do not consider any position other than maybe catcher a defense first position. Anderson is decent defensively and right now about as good an offensive short-stop as there is in all of baseball especially when you bring in his base stealing ability and power numbers.

Defensively, I just think that his footwork sometimes gets jumbled up. He has a very accurate and strong arm and good range. I still would have liked to see him in center field but that's okay. The guy is headed for the all-star game this season as maybe also Moncada. That's a pretty good nucleus for the infield for the next ten years unless Reinny gets cheap once again. Hopefully when Madrigal gets on board, their infield will be very special, especially offensively.

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I may end up writing to major league baseball to recommend that they change this rule because of how silly it is.
:lol: :lol:

Still, I'd like to try, with your permission. I'll send a letter a week. They can't ignore me forever.

They sure can, but you write your letters if it makes you happy. I'll even mail 'em for you, how's that sound?

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