because i just said that the bigger arc is about his actual identity, not about the night king. and his history with the white walkers is pretty thorough in both the books and the show.

the reason people were expecting snow to kill the night king was because of the history he has with that white walker storyline. while there wasn't a night king in the book there is still the subplot of all of that. we don't know if he was going to be introduced.

WZ may agree here, but i think even if everything remained the same last week except that it was Snow killing the Night King, the episode would still be deeply unsatisfying.

it just felt underwhelming overall, yeah. what jackref was saying was that there was all this build up with jon being brought back, having all this history with the white walkers, and he doesn't get a piece of the resolution. that criticism is echoed by others too. i can understand that, even though it's not my personal criticism. for me it just seems like they're taking the easy way out with ending it.

maybe martin wrote himself into a wall with the red wedding, and the showrunners wrote themselves into a corner with creating the night king.

Martin certainly wrote himself into a corner with the Red Wedding. It’s like he outlined the story to that point and then just stopped and had been hoping for the best since then.

That is kind of the funny thing though. The actions by the Starks leading up to the Red Wedding were just as stupid as the poorly thought out plans to defeat the Night King. Robb never made a good decision and Catelyn didn't do much to stop him. However some of the dumb actions like sending the Dothraki to die are considered problems with the episodes.

I would argue the only people in the whole show who make smart decisions are the Lannisters and even they have Cersei who has gotten nearly her whole family killed.

Robb made all kinds of great decisions. He was the best general in Westeros who never lost a battle. The war may have been over if Edmure Tully hadn't tried to be his own general. The only bad decision Robb made was breaking his deal with Walder Frey.

Bron is not going to turn on Jamie and the Imp. Remember....whatever you are offered, I will double it. Bron is going to end up getting that huge Lannister castle(Forget its name) and a hot wife.(maybe one of the Sand Snakes?)

Cersei will commit suicide when all is lost..

The Mountain will be killed by Arya's mentor from the Many Faced God probably disguised as that swordsman from Dorne. Either that or Arya will kill the Mountain who will kill the Hound.


Cersie will be double crossed by the Iron Bank when they find out that Jon Snow is really a Targaryan and heir to the seven Kingdoms.


Theon's sister will kill her Uncle and get their revenge.

Jon will abdicate his throne and Sansa and the Imp will be installed as the placeholders or wardens until Arya's son by King Robert's son is born and ends up ruling the world. Jon and Dany will fly off to a quiet corner of the world with their dragons.

Jamie will marry Breinne and will be married By the Fat Eunuch.