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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:48 am 
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Our society has gone insane.

Time to blow it all up and start over.


Who'd have thought people misconstruing a hand gesture would red pill me.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:49 am 
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Now that I think about it, that was also a symbol to call someone a "pussy" back when we were young. Or to point out some nice trim.

Doug Glanville is a pretty handsome man



If he ran some Just For Men through that beard he'd look a lot like spmack.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:50 am 
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This is legitimately insane.

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the biggest issue i have is that the idiot didn't do it below the waist like you are supposed to. he gets 1.4million punches.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:50 am 
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badrogue17 wrote:
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Now that I think about it, that was also a symbol to call someone a "pussy" back when we were young. Or to point out some nice trim.
Doug Glanville is a pretty handsome man


If he ran some Just For Men through that beard he'd look a lot like spmack.
They all look the same to you, huh?

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:50 am 
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remember when crane kenney was a meddler and buffoon wearing a jersey in the dugout.... why didnt the ricketts get rid of him.... etc....

now that he is a WSCR business partner.... bernstein doesnt go after him.... ever.... hmm...


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:52 am 
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So by the standards they just set..Joe Ricketts also never can set foot in Wrigley again. Can we all agree on this?


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So by the standards they just set..Joe Ricketts also never can set foot in Wrigley again. Can we all agree on this?


Everyone (journalists, fans, players, workers) must undergo a stringent background check to determine if they ever said or did anything that may be construed as hateful by someone.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:56 am 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
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Now that I think about it, that was also a symbol to call someone a "pussy" back when we were young. Or to point out some nice trim.
Doug Glanville is a pretty handsome man


If he ran some Just For Men through that beard he'd look a lot like spmack.
They all look the same to you, huh?



Not really. spmack is much younger and has a tighter lining.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:58 am 
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The guy is not even holding his hand in the right directoin to do the White Power sign. It certainly looks like the circle game. Do we really want people pouring over sitll photographs or scanning video for people who look like they might be making a racist hand gesture, doxx them, contact their employers, ban them from ballparks, etc. because someone thinks they applied a different meaning to a common gesture?

People complain about Trump or Republicans being "facist", but liberals/progressives going down that road seems pretty distrubing to me.


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I’m not entirely convinced that Camps finger pointing in photos doesn’t mean he’s that he actually shoots people for the Gangster Disciples

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:20 pm 
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This is interesting to me on a legal level. The Cubs say they are investigating. I guess they would know the guys name if he's a season ticket holder and that's his seat.

1. He did nothing illegal. That sign isn't illegal. Actually, being a racist isn't illegal either.

2. If they question him and he claims he didn't know the meaning of the sign, what the hell can the Cubs do?

3. What if the Cubs find out his name and ask to question him and he says "Fuck You". They're not authorities. He's a private citizen. They can't go to his house and bust open the door. They can't water board him for answers.


These are good questions, but I think you're focusing on the wrong area. I didn't see the hand gesture, and I'm not offering any opinion on whether or not it was racist, but the Cubs are not the government: they don't owe you a right to free speech, they don't owe you a right to due process, and they can exclude you from their property for virtually any reason. Unless of course they are excluding someone solely because of their race, national origin, etc. The bottom line is that if the Cubs want to get rid of him, they can get rid of him.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:21 pm 
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The OK sign has to be seen on your thigh in order to be allowed to punch someone in the arm. Anyone holding up an OK sign up in the air now is just doing a white-power symbol.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:22 pm 
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From a PR standpoint wouldn't it be just easier to state: Moving forward, any attempt by a fan in the seats to disrupt a live, on the field interview, audibility or with hand-gestures will result in an ejection and ban from Wrigley Field. You take care of the problem and you don't sound like a fucking idiot (like Crane Kenney did) in the process.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:23 pm 
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Warren Newson wrote:
Beardown wrote:
This is interesting to me on a legal level. The Cubs say they are investigating. I guess they would know the guys name if he's a season ticket holder and that's his seat.

1. He did nothing illegal. That sign isn't illegal. Actually, being a racist isn't illegal either.

2. If they question him and he claims he didn't know the meaning of the sign, what the hell can the Cubs do?

3. What if the Cubs find out his name and ask to question him and he says "Fuck You". They're not authorities. He's a private citizen. They can't go to his house and bust open the door. They can't water board him for answers.


These are good questions, but I think you're focusing on the wrong area. I didn't see the hand gesture, and I'm not offering any opinion on whether or not it was racist, but the Cubs are not the government: they don't owe you a right to free speech, they don't owe you a right to due process, and they can exclude you from their property for virtually any reason. Unless of course they are excluding someone solely because of their race, national origin, etc. The bottom line is that if the Cubs want to get rid of him, they can get rid of him.

And it sounds like that’s exactly what Crane Kenney is going to do. He’s not even going to consider there could be any other possible reason or even if there is he’s not going to accept it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:26 pm 
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Wait, I just saw the video, his hand is upside-down. He's just thinking now he can punch everyone who was watching TV.

https://www.adl.org/education/reference ... nd-gesture

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Other, similar-seeming hand gestures have also been mistakenly assumed to have white supremacist connotations as a result of the “okay” hoax. One of these is the so-called “Circle Game,” in which people attempt to trick each other into looking at an okay-like hand gesture made somewhere below the waist. Another is the hand sign of the Three Percenter movement, a wing of the anti-government extremist militia movement. Three Percenters, who are right-wing extremists but are not typically white supremacists, often make a hand gesture to symbolize their movement that uses the outstretched middle, ring, and pinky fingers to represent a Roman numeral “3.” This gesture, from certain angles, can often resemble an “okay” hand gesture and has been misinterpreted by some as a white supremacist symbol.

Because of the traditional meaning of the “okay” hand gesture, as well as other usages unrelated to white supremacy, particular care must be taken not to jump to conclusions about the intent behind someone who has used the gesture.

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Even if the guy is a raging racist. This is just too much. These guys don't know when to stop


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:36 pm 
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To be clear: I don't think this guy was doing the white power symbol. But we need to agree that there is a white power symbol that is very close to it. If words change over time, then signs can change, too, and certain people made a concerted and successful effort to redefine a harmless symbol as one of white identity. I think the same symbol means "go fuck yourself" in Spain:

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Seems Laurence is on the job still.

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The OK sign has to be seen on your thigh in order to be allowed to punch someone in the arm. Anyone holding up an OK sign up in the air now is just doing a white-power symbol.

Really? Most people have no idea that it could mean anything other than "ok". Not everyone is on-line all the time.

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Different from what the guy at the game did.

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The black guy in the photo is doing a white power pose?

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If any attempt is made to dox him, directly by the Cubs or if they assisted, he certainly should sue for libel.


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The black guy in the photo is doing a white power pose?

Yes, he is.

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it's not really that obscure or confined to Reddit. I'm surprised even the 'very online' among you don't recall this

https://www.thedailybeast.com/brenton-t ... ng-suspect

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I never head of it before today, that being said, I'm sure I would have known of it had Toxic and America not been banned.


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yeah nobody is saying it doesn't exist. i just think we all recognize that 99% of its usage is the OK sign, a 3 pt field goal has been made, or the circle game.


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Curious Hair wrote:
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The black guy in the photo is doing a white power pose?

Yes, he is.


Or, perhaps there is more than one meaning?

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