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I bet I failed or was kicked out of more classes than anyone here.

By my count, I have at least 10 F's on my resume including failing gym class one semester in high school.


They're smarter than you are. They know more statutes. They went to better law schools. They got better grades than you did. They're aren't fucking around on message boards like you do, but remember this... you are JEWISH!



I didn't fail any classes in law school, but I did manage to graduate dead last in my class. It was a goal I had from day one and it wasn't easy to accomplish. But I passed the Bar in one shot unlike a lot of people I know. I also studied more for that exam than anyone I know, but I had to. Most of that shit was first impression.


Between the LSAT and the bar exam, I probably saw 6-8 people so nerve wracked that they got up and walked out before the tests started. Of course during the initial writing sample they requested that we had to write a word beginning with the letter q in cursive. I'd forgotten how, laughed out loud and figured what the fuck and went on with the two days of hell.


all I remember about the LSAT is I took it at Northwestern downtown and I got 2 parking tickets while I was in there. Now that you mention it I do vaguely remember some people giving up and walking out halfway through it.

The Bar was different, you kinda knew what to expect. That said, I was surprised by the multiple choice. I was told to expect 2/4 of the answer choices to seem correct, but I felt like all 4 answers made sense for just about every question. On the other hand, I felt like I essay portion was a total cake walk. Actually got lucky cause I took West for Bar review instead of the more popular Barbri. I'd say it was like a 90/10% split. Then we get to the essay exam and later found out one of the questions wasn't covered in Barbri, but we covered it in West.

Took the Bar at Loyola and then after walked down to the lake and met a couple buddies who were waiting to pick me up on jet skiis. Threw my book bag with all my study materials into Lake Michigan as I was trying to throw it to the jet ski. So figured I better pass it at that point.


All I really remember about the bar review classes were how effective they were. They really hammered brevity, so much so I kept wondering why so many people were filling 6-7 blue books per session. I don't even remember a multiple choice section. But of course in my rush to decompress after the test, the first two days are also lost to time as well.



The night of the Bar exam was pretty insane. Met everyone at McGee's as that was our regular place 1-2x per week. I had become close to the bartender over the years and I got there and ordered a beer and she gave me a whole pitcher with no glasses. She said., "that's your glass tonight". No charge and she filled it up all night. And many times throughout the night she would hand me a tray of shots to pass out. Somehow made it home that night and fell into bed. Woke up still hammered and was laying in a puddle of my own piss, got out of bed and literally jumped in the air and fistpumped cause I was so excited that I pissed the bed, considered that a huge badge of honor...fell onto the floor and passed out for another several hours.

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Sometimes I can't tell if shakes is a well-respected lawyer or a kid who wished he was big.

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Sometimes I can't tell if shakes is a well-respected lawyer or a kid who wished he was big.


Don't know, but I'd like to catch a few shots and beer with him one day :lol:

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Also flunked out of college. Didn't last 6 months. Went there cuz of baseball and never set foot on the diamonds. But my pool game really got taken up a couple notches.


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I flunked out of College of DuPage, that's tough to top. They have some weird thing where if you sign up for classes and never go, you get an F, what the hell is that? Easier back then when it was $18 a credit hour than now when it's $136.


Who knew right? I never failed a class I went too but did have two professors call me into their office before finals to tell me if I nailed the exam they’d weigh it much heavier than they should. I did not deserve a B in French but some how just killed the oral. Still don’t know how as I took the test with a pretty good fever. The calculus one didn’t pull me up so high, should of took that as a warning and dropped the classes up at tech. Or show up more often.


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I flunked out of College of DuPage, that's tough to top. They have some weird thing where if you sign up for classes and never go, you get an F, what the hell is that? Easier back then when it was $18 a credit hour than now when it's $136.


Who knew right? I never failed a class I went too but did have two professors call me into their office before finals to tell me if I nailed the exam they’d weigh it much heavier than they should. I did not deserve a B in French but some how just killed the oral. Still don’t know how as I took the test with a pretty good fever. The calculus one didn’t pull me up so high, should of took that as a warning and dropped the classes up at tech. Or show up more often.


That reminds me of a qualitative methods class that I kind of blew off for a month my junior year. I showed up a couple of days before the first test. The professor stopped class, walked to the back of the class where I was trying to hide and announced that he knew me, knew I hadn't been coming and declared that he was going to flunk me.

After class my friends looked at me like a ghost and asked what I was going to do. I told them that since I couldn't drop the class, nothing was going to change. I kept showing up occasionally, did well on the tests and thought I aced the final. I even told my parents that I was going to draw an F because I had problems with the professor.

The next semester as a few friends were heading back to retake the class, they asked me why I wasn't going in with them. Still stunned, I told them that I got an A. I gave credit to my math major gf who stuck with me for a few days before each test.

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Sometimes I can't tell if shakes is a well-respected lawyer or a kid who wished he was big.


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Sometimes I can't tell if shakes is a well-respected lawyer or a kid who wished he was big.


Don't know, but I'd like to catch a few shots and beer with him one day :lol:


Me too, but I'm such a lightweight these days we might have to limit that to one girly shot.

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Sometimes I can't tell if shakes is a well-respected lawyer or a kid who wished he was big.


Don't know, but I'd like to catch a few shots and beer with him one day :lol:

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The Bar was different, you kinda knew what to expect. That said, I was surprised by the multiple choice. I was told to expect 2/4 of the answer choices to seem correct, but I felt like all 4 answers made sense for just about every question. On the other hand, I felt like I essay portion was a total cake walk.

That's what I thought. After the first day (essay) I though I had it in the bag. After the second day (multiple choice) I thought there was no way I would pass.

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the margins of getting into college these days are so slim there really is no room for the kind of slip ups we had

one c and you are probably dead to the ivies. its eye opening

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shakes wrote:
I bet I failed or was kicked out of more classes than anyone here.

By my count, I have at least 10 F's on my resume including failing gym class one semester in high school.


Permanently kicked out the classroom? Or just sent to the dean's office numerous times?

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The Bar was different, you kinda knew what to expect. That said, I was surprised by the multiple choice. I was told to expect 2/4 of the answer choices to seem correct, but I felt like all 4 answers made sense for just about every question. On the other hand, I felt like I essay portion was a total cake walk.

That's what I thought. After the first day (essay) I though I had it in the bag. After the second day (multiple choice) I thought there was no way I would pass.


I honestly didn't worry about it until the week that results were mailed. I told myself that a big envelope was bad news. Thankfully I was wrong.

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I received a "C" in Conduct on a grade school report card- I think it was the fourth-grade teacher who found our "modified Morse code" for swear words hidden in my desk.

At no other point in my academic career did I score so low. I did fail a HS Chemistry quiz on the periodic table Freshman year the day after my first ever JV football game. Was so excited about the game that I completely forgot to look at the material. Kinda like th opening to Risky Business. The Chemistry teacher reorganized the class seating chart after every graded exercise, higher grades to the back of the room- that week was my only week in the front row!


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the margins of getting into college these days are so slim there really is no room for the kind of slip ups we had

one c and you are probably dead to the ivies. its eye opening


You are so right. At my son's high school, 35 students applied to Northwestern and ZERO got in. This included several people with 36 ACT scores and 98% grade averages. ZERO accepted. It's fucking bullshit.

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There are thousands of kids in the 6 County area that have the same ACT and grade % and aren't getting into Northwestern.

It seems to me over the years that more people (that I know anyway) are getting masters degrees. Maybe because they didn't go to a higher end school?

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the margins of getting into college these days are so slim there really is no room for the kind of slip ups we had

one c and you are probably dead to the ivies. its eye opening



My friend's kid went to an East Coast prep school, the kind of place that educates presidents. He got a perfect SAT and still couldn't get into an Ivy because he had shaky grades in his sophomore year. His counselor advised him not even to apply to Harvard. And he got wait-listed at Northeastern. He ended up at a small liberal arts school on what pretty much amounts to a full ride so he's happy, though he's still kind of butthurt that he didn't get into Harvard or Yale.

He desperately didn't want to go to UMass, his state school which I guess for someone from his high school would have been worse than Joel having to attend U of I. He kept telling his mom, "Nobody from here goes to UMass." But my friend, his mom, is an academic and she knows about colleges. She said she wasn't going to have him go to a worse school and pay more just because UMass didn't have the proper cachet among his friends.

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READS JUST FINE,,,,,,right LEASh????????

and I am sure FARVEFAN can explain to us the VIRCHOOSE of COMUNITY COLLEGE ENGRISH 101?????????


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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the margins of getting into college these days are so slim there really is no room for the kind of slip ups we had

one c and you are probably dead to the ivies. its eye opening



My friend's kid went to an East Coast prep school, the kind of place that educates presidents. He got a perfect SAT and still couldn't get into an Ivy because he had shaky grades in his sophomore year. His counselor advised him not even to apply to Harvard. And he got wait-listed at Northeastern. He ended up at a small liberal arts school on what pretty much amounts to a full ride so he's happy, though he's still kind of butthurt that he didn't get into Harvard or Yale.

He desperately didn't want to go to UMass, his state school which I guess for someone from his high school would have been worse than Joel having to attend U of I. He kept telling his mom, "Nobody from here goes to UMass." But my friend, his mom, is an academic and she knows about colleges. She said she wasn't going to have him go to a worse school and pay more just because UMass didn't have the proper cachet among his friends.


That is the way you have to look at it.

I have college advisors telling us to find the easiest school that is still a good fit that will give money and fly over the bar rather than fight to get into a school where they think you should be honored for being accepted. I see the logic, especially if there is an eye on grad schools. Still, how often do the dickhead Bernsteins of the world genuflect at a degree...and he is not in the minority.

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Did they change the scoring format of the LSATs at some point? I've been watching the show Suits, and they were talking about 170-175 being a really good score. I took the LSAT 35 years ago (but didn't end up going to law school) and think my score was like 45.


I got a 165 on it, and that was 96th percentile at the time. (Pro-tip: take it in the off season.)
Also, we are Taft driver's ed alums! Any reunions or anything coming up?

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never in hs.

in college, i signed up for a 7 oclock class. i showed up for the 4 tests and literally aced them but never went to a class outside of that. the syllabus said nothing of attendence and it was my first year of college and was told college is different than HS.

anyhoo, there was a list of people that were recommended to take the final. the list ommitted all a students and only included those who could move up a grade by taking it. my name was on the list. but my buddy who took the class too said there was no homework, no quizzes only the tests. which i got A's on all of them. So i went to see this lady . I had an F and needed to take the final to get a D.

I was like, i literally aced the class. the purpose of this course is for me to learn X. I've clearly learned X and therefore this class for me has been very successful. She disagreed, she said she was to teach us real life and attendence is required. I said its not in your syllabus, you said nothing about attendance the first week. she was basically like my class my rules. I was like, i have no issue fighting this in some way. There was 1 week left in the class. she said if i came all 3 days, and then aced the final she'd give me the A. i agreed and got an A in the class.

So i almost did.


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