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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 11:16 am 
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Up 300 today, it's back baby!

China panicking. "peoples' war" and "America's greed and arrogance stepping on our sovereignty."

Better get to the table boys before your propped up monopoly money becomes worthless.


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How did we get a 5/1 import/export ratio trade fiasco, and the biggest foreign owner of our bonds/notes situation with bitter enemy China? Another mess left to the President to deal with.


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Up 300 today, it's back baby!

China panicking. "peoples' war" and "America's greed and arrogance stepping on our sovereignty."

Better get to the table boys before your propped up monopoly money becomes worthless.


That works both ways Nardi. But only our side just seemed to figure that little nugget out. The Chinese have been planning for this for 20+ years as our consumerism ran amok.

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Despite what you think of Trump, this does need to be addressed with china. The trade deficit we have with them at has to be dealt with. I'm not saying Trump is handling it correctly or will be successful, but he's the only one to date to try and tackle it. We've been their bitch for far too long.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:59 pm 
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How did we get a 5/1 import/export ratio trade fiasco, and the biggest foreign owner of our bonds/notes situation with bitter enemy China? Another mess left to the President to deal with.


Check your (the generic "your", not you personally) iPhone, jumbo flat screen tvs in your home and virtually everything sold in WalMart and Target. Keep wages down and mollify the masses with cheap crap they/we believe we "need"

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Do we have anyone here that is an expert in the import/export business?


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Despite what you think of Trump, this does need to be addressed with china. The trade deficit we have with them at has to be dealt with. I'm not saying Trump is handling it correctly or will be successful, but he's the only one to date to try and tackle it. We've been their bitch for far too long.


Starting off by pissing off our allies with mindless tariffs on their aluminum, steel, etc., wasn't a smart first step. Lying about who pays for the tariffs until this weekend only made it worse. There are still too many here who don't respect the Chinese or their position at the table because of his ongoing bluster.

Hell, just yesterday when the market fell in part due to China's announced June tariffs, the guy was still talking about how negotiations were "going well" and completely irrelevantly how he "has a great relationship with President Xi". And then he leads many to believe that the Chinese didn't plan for this, and given that real hardships in their collective memories are fresh, they aren't in a better position to fight or suffer now.

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How did we get a 5/1 import/export ratio trade fiasco, and the biggest foreign owner of our bonds/notes situation with bitter enemy China? Another mess left to the President to deal with.


And we did nothing for years while China stole state, military and corporate technology on top of it all.

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How did we get a 5/1 import/export ratio trade fiasco, and the biggest foreign owner of our bonds/notes situation with bitter enemy China? Another mess left to the President to deal with.


And we did nothing for years while China stole state, military and corporate technology on top of it all.

All these senseless investigations currently. How about investigatng the money trail in the US/China dealings that got us into this mess?


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How did we get a 5/1 import/export ratio trade fiasco, and the biggest foreign owner of our bonds/notes situation with bitter enemy China? Another mess left to the President to deal with.


And we did nothing for years while China stole state, military and corporate technology on top of it all.


Because the powers that were wrongly presumed that as China became a legit world actor, they'd tone such "indiscretions" down. :eye:

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Caller Bob wrote:
Up 300 today, it's back baby!

China panicking. "peoples' war" and "America's greed and arrogance stepping on our sovereignty."

Better get to the table boys before your propped up monopoly money becomes worthless.


That works both ways Nardi. But only our side just seemed to figure that little nugget out. The Chinese have been planning for this for 20+ years as our consumerism ran amok.

Sure they are. First off, they are an authoritarian state. Authoritarian states are one economic crisis from revolution. So I'd say no, we are at a HUGE advantage. They know what's at stake with their piggy bank that's named The United States of Kissmyass.


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I am not defending tariffs against China or anyone because generally I do not believe in them. Hasn't there always been a left leaning notion though that lets buy American and keep our blue collar jobs here and not Asia etc. etc.?

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I am not defending tariffs against China or anyone because generally I do not believe in them. Hasn't there always been a left leaning notion though that lets buy American and keep our blue collar jobs here and not Asia etc. etc.?

You don't have to be. But it HAS come to this because of decades of the obviously shit deals plus add in the stealing and the dumping. It blows my mind how anybody is for more of the same.


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They say Chinese tariffs will cost a family $767. Only if you keep buying Chinese products. They don't tell you you have choices. Maybe those choices cost you anywhere from $0-$766.


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Nardi wrote:
They say Chinese tariffs will cost a family $767. Only if you keep buying Chinese products. They don't tell you you have choices. Maybe those choices cost you anywhere from $0-$766.


It’s hard to avoid China completely but to hear it here many already avoid Walmart and Dollar Tree so that’s a start.

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They say Chinese tariffs will cost a family $767. Only if you keep buying Chinese products. They don't tell you you have choices. Maybe those choices cost you anywhere from $0-$766.


It’s hard to avoid China completely but to hear it here many already avoid Walmart and Dollar Tree so that’s a start.

Yup.

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Dollar And A Quarter Tree.


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Dollar And A Quarter Tree.


Dollar depress home values Tree.

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Thanks for all the “your stock is down 5% and 10%” alerts.


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Thanks for all the “your stock is down 5% and 10%” alerts.


Get back in there and SELL!

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By all means, remove that motherfucker from office immediately! :lol:

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Why is the 3rd year such an anomaly over 90 years? That's weird.

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By all means, remove that motherfucker from office immediately! :lol:
Seemingly the act of trying to impeach a President really helps the stock market. Good work Democrats.

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I think these unusually high gains are in no way a mirage and will definitely not end anytime soon.

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Obama tripled the market. We're still waiting for Trump to double it.

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Except unemployment and real wage gains are more important to the masses. Thanks Trump.

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Except unemployment and real wage gains are more important to the masses. Thanks Trump.


The unemployment trend is down from where Obama left it and the real wage gains is trending in the same direction Obama left it despite the tax cuts and the repatriation of the offshore money.

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Except unemployment and real wage gains are more important to the masses. Thanks Trump.


The unemployment trend is down from where Obama left it and the real wage gains is trending in the same direction Obama left it despite the tax cuts and the repatriation of the offshore money.

Trump and Obama really worked well together to make the 2010s great.

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Except unemployment and real wage gains are more important to the masses. Thanks Trump.


The unemployment trend is down from where Obama left it and the real wage gains is trending in the same direction Obama left it despite the tax cuts and the repatriation of the offshore money.

Trump and Obama really worked well together to make the 2010s great.


Recession free decade led by a black man and followed by an orange one. The decade of minority presidents!

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