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Lopez started rough but had a solid outing.

2 hits over 7 2/3rd innings is pretty great.

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Man. Giolitto and Lopez back to back great outings. Things are starting to look more promising. Too bad about Rodon. Hope he heals well. I'd like for them to give Fulmer a chance as a starter soon. I know that I am pretty much alone here in my opinion but I really think that all he needs is to find himself because the tools are there. They really should try and find a lefty, though, to change the look.

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Decent chance they sign Keuchel in a month after the draft, maybe 3-62$


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Decent chance they sign Keuchel in a month after the draft, maybe 3-62$


They should definitely try.

Agree with that, though I thought I read that the Yankees were all over him.


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Lopez started rough but had a solid outing.

Very little roughness. Solo HRs happen and the 2nd run was unearned.


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I'd like for them to give Fulmer a chance as a starter soon. I know that I am pretty much alone here in my opinion but I really think that all he needs is to find himself because the tools are there.



Why the fuck do you wanna see that train wreck!?! We know how that ends.


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Nardi wrote:
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Lopez started rough but had a solid outing.

Very little roughness. Solo HRs happen and the 2nd run was unearned.
The 2nd run also crossed the plate after Lopez left the game.

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I'd like for them to give Fulmer a chance as a starter soon. I know that I am pretty much alone here in my opinion but I really think that all he needs is to find himself because the tools are there.



Why the fuck do you wanna see that train wreck!?! We know how that ends.


Sometimes you have to look beyond the immediate. People were ready to give up on Anderson and Moncada, also and look what happened. Fulmer has good pitches and a solid delivery. I want them to give him a real look and maybe the light bulb will go on. He is still pretty young.

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The Hawk wrote:
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I'd like for them to give Fulmer a chance as a starter soon. I know that I am pretty much alone here in my opinion but I really think that all he needs is to find himself because the tools are there.



Why the fuck do you wanna see that train wreck!?! We know how that ends.


Sometimes you have to look beyond the immediate. People were ready to give up on Anderson and Moncada, also and look what happened. Fulmer has good pitches and a solid delivery. I want them to give him a real look and maybe the light bulb will go on. He is still pretty young.


Anderson and Moncada, while disappointing for not meeting greatness, were already league average type players last year.

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I'd like for them to give Fulmer a chance as a starter soon. I know that I am pretty much alone here in my opinion but I really think that all he needs is to find himself because the tools are there.



Why the fuck do you wanna see that train wreck!?! We know how that ends.


Sometimes you have to look beyond the immediate. People were ready to give up on Anderson and Moncada, also and look what happened. Fulmer has good pitches and a solid delivery. I want them to give him a real look and maybe the light bulb will go on. He is still pretty young.


Anderson and Moncada, while disappointing for not meeting greatness, were already league average type players last year.


You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I think that pitchers are different and their development is also different. The control of a pitched baseball is pretty much an art form. The dynamics of it are amazing. I like the movement on Fulmer's pitches. It is something that very few pitchers in all of baseball have. You should not give up on guys like this.

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You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I think that pitchers are different and their development is also different. The control of a pitched baseball is pretty much an art form. The dynamics of it are amazing. I like the movement on Fulmer's pitches. It is something that very few pitchers in all of baseball have. You should not give up on guys like this.


I agree, if you’re going to trot Banuelos out there to get lit up every 5 days, and then get an occasional good start, I feel like Fulmer can at least give you that. I don’t see the down side doing that this season. First round talent deserves a longer shot.

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You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I think that pitchers are different and their development is also different. The control of a pitched baseball is pretty much an art form. The dynamics of it are amazing. I like the movement on Fulmer's pitches. It is something that very few pitchers in all of baseball have. You should not give up on guys like this.


I agree, if you’re going to trot Banuelos out there to get lit up every 5 days, and then get an occasional good start, I feel like Fulmer can at least give you that. I don’t see the down side doing that this season. First round talent deserves a longer shot.


Exactly. If the four pitches were not there, then I wouldn't care but those pitches are there and there are very few pitchers in the major leagues who have them. Give him the ball and hope he figures it out.

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crosscheck wrote:
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You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I think that pitchers are different and their development is also different. The control of a pitched baseball is pretty much an art form. The dynamics of it are amazing. I like the movement on Fulmer's pitches. It is something that very few pitchers in all of baseball have. You should not give up on guys like this.


I agree, if you’re going to trot Banuelos out there to get lit up every 5 days, and then get an occasional good start, I feel like Fulmer can at least give you that. I don’t see the down side doing that this season. First round talent deserves a longer shot.

I understand that, but if the guy can't pitch in AAA, why would he suddenly be able to figure it out in the majors? If anything, he's gotta prove himself in relief first. Right now, if Fulmer starts, you can expect to be sitting behind by four runs before the game starts.


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You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I think that pitchers are different and their development is also different. The control of a pitched baseball is pretty much an art form. The dynamics of it are amazing. I like the movement on Fulmer's pitches. It is something that very few pitchers in all of baseball have. You should not give up on guys like this.


I agree, if you’re going to trot Banuelos out there to get lit up every 5 days, and then get an occasional good start, I feel like Fulmer can at least give you that. I don’t see the down side doing that this season. First round talent deserves a longer shot.

I understand that, but if the guy can't pitch in AAA, why would he suddenly be able to figure it out in the majors? If anything, he's gotta prove himself in relief first. Right now, if Fulmer starts, you can expect to be sitting behind by four runs before the game starts.



Its an entirely different thing when you start versus relieve. A totally different mind set and the way you prepare yourself. I think Fulmer should be a starter. I said the same thing long ago with Nate Jones. When he came up he had four plus pitches and they decided to make a reliever out of him and I believe screwed him out of a chance to be a good major league starter. The reason why they did it was because his fastball was so good. It was a mistake.

I'd love to sit down with Cooper and talk to him about what he is looking for in a starter versus a reliever. Pick his brain so to speak. I'd also like to talk to Steve Stone as I am enjoying his commentary this year about the young pitchers and their interaction with McCann.

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The Hawk wrote:
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You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I think that pitchers are different and their development is also different. The control of a pitched baseball is pretty much an art form. The dynamics of it are amazing. I like the movement on Fulmer's pitches. It is something that very few pitchers in all of baseball have. You should not give up on guys like this.


I agree, if you’re going to trot Banuelos out there to get lit up every 5 days, and then get an occasional good start, I feel like Fulmer can at least give you that. I don’t see the down side doing that this season. First round talent deserves a longer shot.

I understand that, but if the guy can't pitch in AAA, why would he suddenly be able to figure it out in the majors? If anything, he's gotta prove himself in relief first. Right now, if Fulmer starts, you can expect to be sitting behind by four runs before the game starts.



Its an entirely different thing when you start versus relieve. A totally different mind set and the way you prepare yourself. I think Fulmer should be a starter. I said the same thing long ago with Nate Jones. When he came up he had four plus pitches and they decided to make a reliever out of him and I believe screwed him out of a chance to be a good major league starter. The reason why they did it was because his fastball was so good. It was a mistake.

I'd love to sit down with Cooper and talk to him about what he is looking for in a starter versus a reliever. Pick his brain so to speak. I'd also like to talk to Steve Stone as I am enjoying his commentary this year about the young pitchers and their interaction with McCann.

But Fulmer can't do either, Hawk. And he can't do either in the bigs or in AAA.

I feel bad for Jones. Just couldn't stay healthy.


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the guy is horrible. he has a career 5.00 ERA in the MINORS.

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tommy wrote:
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You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I think that pitchers are different and their development is also different. The control of a pitched baseball is pretty much an art form. The dynamics of it are amazing. I like the movement on Fulmer's pitches. It is something that very few pitchers in all of baseball have. You should not give up on guys like this.


I agree, if you’re going to trot Banuelos out there to get lit up every 5 days, and then get an occasional good start, I feel like Fulmer can at least give you that. I don’t see the down side doing that this season. First round talent deserves a longer shot.

I understand that, but if the guy can't pitch in AAA, why would he suddenly be able to figure it out in the majors? If anything, he's gotta prove himself in relief first. Right now, if Fulmer starts, you can expect to be sitting behind by four runs before the game starts.



Its an entirely different thing when you start versus relieve. A totally different mind set and the way you prepare yourself. I think Fulmer should be a starter. I said the same thing long ago with Nate Jones. When he came up he had four plus pitches and they decided to make a reliever out of him and I believe screwed him out of a chance to be a good major league starter. The reason why they did it was because his fastball was so good. It was a mistake.

I'd love to sit down with Cooper and talk to him about what he is looking for in a starter versus a reliever. Pick his brain so to speak. I'd also like to talk to Steve Stone as I am enjoying his commentary this year about the young pitchers and their interaction with McCann.

But Fulmer can't do either, Hawk. And he can't do either in the bigs or in AAA.

I feel bad for Jones. Just couldn't stay healthy.

Or AA. He did fine in A.


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This damn Tilson is still hitting.

Edit: Still can run, too.


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Nice inning for the Sox here.

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Nice inning for the Sox here.

Good win. Nice job by Covey and the bullpen.


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Covey shows glimpses. I think he is a long reliever based on his numbers the second time through the order. I think with a clear and consistently announced role, he is an MLB pitcher.

Tilson and Cordell both look good in the field and light years ahead of Engel at the plate. Engel had an MLB career based on their injuries. I'm glad he got enough time for a pension.

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tommy wrote:
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You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I think that pitchers are different and their development is also different. The control of a pitched baseball is pretty much an art form. The dynamics of it are amazing. I like the movement on Fulmer's pitches. It is something that very few pitchers in all of baseball have. You should not give up on guys like this.


I agree, if you’re going to trot Banuelos out there to get lit up every 5 days, and then get an occasional good start, I feel like Fulmer can at least give you that. I don’t see the down side doing that this season. First round talent deserves a longer shot.

I understand that, but if the guy can't pitch in AAA, why would he suddenly be able to figure it out in the majors? If anything, he's gotta prove himself in relief first. Right now, if Fulmer starts, you can expect to be sitting behind by four runs before the game starts.



Its an entirely different thing when you start versus relieve. A totally different mind set and the way you prepare yourself. I think Fulmer should be a starter. I said the same thing long ago with Nate Jones. When he came up he had four plus pitches and they decided to make a reliever out of him and I believe screwed him out of a chance to be a good major league starter. The reason why they did it was because his fastball was so good. It was a mistake.

I'd love to sit down with Cooper and talk to him about what he is looking for in a starter versus a reliever. Pick his brain so to speak. I'd also like to talk to Steve Stone as I am enjoying his commentary this year about the young pitchers and their interaction with McCann.

But Fulmer can't do either, Hawk. And he can't do either in the bigs or in AAA.

I feel bad for Jones. Just couldn't stay healthy.


We won't know unless they put him in there and he either sinks or swims. But as it sits now, he is in limbo and that is not doing him or the organization any good. Its too bad as far as I am concerned. I hate wasting talent by an organization that can't afford to because of the limitations of the talent that they actually have. Just taking a look at what a dearth of talent that they have in their pitching throughout the organization, why are they wasting a former high number draft pick. Trot him out there and let him sink or swim

I don't know. Perhaps there is something else going on with Fulmer. Maybe he just won't listen? Maybe he's got a shit attitude? Maybe Cooper just doesn't like the guy? That stuff does happen in any sport.

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There is no need for Ivan Nova to pitch every 5 days.

:lol:

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Nova so bad he makes fatass Vlad Jr. look good.

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