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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?


Park south of Pershing on Wallace or Parnell and walk the 6 blocks.

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Seems MANY businesses are more interested in wooing new customers as opposed to taking care of (and keeping) the ones they have.



I'll give Arlington/CDI a little credit. I know I can get a better rebate from Hawthorne or Xpressbet. And from a strictly financial standpoint that would be the smart thing to do. But I've never been treated better at a racetrack or OTB than I have at AP. That's worth a lot to me. Sadly, it probably won't be around much longer. If AP is gone, I'll definitely switch from TwinSpires to an ADW that gives me a better rebate.


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Seems MANY businesses are more interested in wooing new customers as opposed to taking care of (and keeping) the ones they have.



I'll give Arlington/CDI a little credit. I know I can get a better rebate from Hawthorne or Xpressbet. And from a strictly financial standpoint that would be the smart thing to do. But I've never been treated better at a racetrack or OTB than I have at AP. That's worth a lot to me. Sadly, it probably won't be around much longer. If AP is gone, I'll definitely switch from TwinSpires to an ADW that gives me a better rebate.


I'm headed to AP as we speak!


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Joke's on you I'm taking the train.

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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?

Isn’t Sox parking $20? Seems easier to just do that.


pretty much hell to get in and out of . plus i don't really want to smoke in my car in a Sox lot :lol:


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Basically the argument that started this thread was that it does not make sense to buy tickets ahead of time anymore. I would rather see how it is on game day than give them money up front anymore.

I agree with that sentiment. I disagree with the sentiment that going to baseball games is shitty and expensive.


I love going to games. Lots of fun. Yes, MLB is cheaper compared to other sports, but it's still a decent amount of money to lay out. If you take the family, your paying bloated food prices. If you go with friends, you're overpaying for drinks. I'll do it...but i wouldn't call it an inexpensive sort of entertainment.

My biggest problem is the team has been garbage for 10 years....it's just not a high priority for me to spend the time and hassle to get o the ballpark only to watch shitty baseball. I just have other things to I'd rather do.

A bad product is your biggest reason for their attendance woes. In the case of the White sox...they really don't care as their value is high regardless of the team on the field. There's a ton of teams tanking, which results in a lot of bad teams. It's going to affect attendance.

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You don't buy season tickets so you can save money. You buy season tickets so you can look down on people who don't have them.

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Bagels wrote:
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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?

Isn’t Sox parking $20? Seems easier to just do that.


pretty much hell to get in and out of . plus i don't really want to smoke in my car in a Sox lot :lol:

:lol: I've done it all three games I've been to this year so far

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Bagels wrote:
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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?

Isn’t Sox parking $20? Seems easier to just do that.


pretty much hell to get in and out of . plus i don't really want to smoke in my car in a Sox lot :lol:


It's always miserable to get out of that lot. Even with 20k in the stands.

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State St south of 37th has free street parking

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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?

Isn’t Sox parking $20? Seems easier to just do that.

Ever since 2007 when I go to a game, I just find a spot east of State St and park for free.

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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?

Isn’t Sox parking $20? Seems easier to just do that.

Ever since 2007 when I go to a game, I just find a spot east of State St and park for free.

Didn’t Huge get beat up doing that? :eye:

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 626164002/

This article just came out about poor MLB attendance.

Major League Baseball’s attendance problem is not going away, as a significant dip in 2018 has endured into the new season – even with better weather and a boost from some big-name stars on the move.

As the game’s worst part of the calendar comes to a close, 12 of 30 teams will draw fewer fans in March-April than they did in a similar period last year – with seven of those teams seeing double-digit percentage dips, led by the Toronto Blue Jays’ 33% drop-off, according to research by USA TODAY Sports.

Perhaps more alarmingly, 15 teams saw a decrease in their worst March-April gate, which can serve as a relatively informed snapshot of a club’s season-ticket base. Twelve teams’ worst gate was 11,000 or less, with four teams – Pittsburgh (8,523), Cincinnati (7,799), Baltimore (6,585) and Miami (5,934) sporting a base of less than 10,000.

Overall, the average major league team's average March-April crowd is virtually flat – 26,560, compared to 26,859, a drop of less than 1%.


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Bagels wrote:
speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?


Park south of Pershing on Wallace or Parnell and walk the 6 blocks.

By the factory on Normal. 5 blocks


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Addiction sounds rough.

Agreed but that seems like non sequitor in this thread

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FavreFan wrote:
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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?

Isn’t Sox parking $20? Seems easier to just do that.


pretty much hell to get in and out of . plus i don't really want to smoke in my car in a Sox lot :lol:

:lol: I've done it all three games I've been to this year so far

THought you quit?

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Okay, I'm suddenly more positive about this team than I have been in several years, so in true Sox fan fashion I have to bitch about something.

In the early 2000s I bought all 81 games for several years. I stopped just in time for the World Series. There really wasn't much upside to shelling out in January when I could walk up on game day at the same price or less.

My ticket rep knows I'm going to buy some kind of package even when I tell him I absolutely won't. This year I bought 25 games. We always stand on the concourse in left so I don't really care where the seat is. I just want to be able to get onto the 100 level. If they offered a standing room ticket at a reasonable price (say $10 a game) I would buy the entire season and drink a shitload of $9.25 beers. But they're too dumb to figure that out.

Anyway, I've been going back and forth with the rep about the "Bleachers and Brews" promotion where you get a ticket and two beers for $20. I paid about $20 each for most of my tickets but now you're coming underneath me and giving some guy who buys on game day two free beers. Is that the way you treat a loyal fan like me? I guess it is. Where the fuck are my free beers? And once again, what is my motivation to shell out in January?

They must train the ticket reps to point out that we got a better price for the Cub games. My buddy told the rep, "Look, I'm an old man and those fucking Cub games are the closest I come to getting in a fight every year. Beside that, it isn't really a feature to get a cheaper ticket to a game where I'm probably going to see the Sox get stomped by a team I hate."

Finally, I didn't have a ticket for this coming Saturday. My business partner asked me if I wanted to go so I told him I'd grab the tickets when I was at the game last night. I went to the inside window and asked the woman for the cheapest ticket for Saturday. They haven't had a 100 level checkpoint this year so I was fine with a $7-10 500 level seat. She told me the cheapest available was a $20 seat in 109. Come on, now. Are you really telling me the 500 level is sold out? I wasn't going to push the issue because it's only $25 at most and with my luck this would be the game where they were checking the 100 level and I'd have to go through some machinations to get downstairs, but that's really bullshit. I should have just asked for a 500 level seat.


You seem to really enjoy the whole live baseball experience...


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So stupid. Again I know they cant give stuff away, but wouldn't they rather have 10% profit on a sold suite, then 40% profit on a quoted suite?



But they kind of are giving stuff away. The rep asked my friend, "What would make you guys happy?" And my friend said, "I just don't want to give you a bunch of money at the beginning of the year and then have a guy sitting five rows in front of me who paid 25% of what I did when he bought his tickets on the day of the game. Is that too much to ask?"


Generally you are right but I don't see a solution. Maybe a bigger discount for buying seasons or packages? With anything though discounting as the season goes on to move unsold inventory is going to screw the early birds. Think any trendy electronic thing.


What Sox should be doing is selling season passes like Disneyland or things like that. You get a card, you get to pick the best tickets available on game day, free parking, and discounted food.



$800 annual standing room ticket. I'd buy it every year.


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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?

Isn’t Sox parking $20? Seems easier to just do that.


pretty much hell to get in and out of . plus i don't really want to smoke in my car in a Sox lot :lol:

:lol: I've done it all three games I've been to this year so far

THought you quit?

I didn’t think he was talking about cigarettes.

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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?

Isn’t Sox parking $20? Seems easier to just do that.

Ever since 2007 when I go to a game, I just find a spot east of State St and park for free.


Unless I had a parking pass, I've parked directly across the street from Cpd headquarters each time. But that may not be an option for Bagels and Farvio. :mrgreen:

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speaking of that, i'm headed to the game tonight - any advice on parking ?
i realized the last several times i've gone i haven't driven, so it's been awhile. Years ago i used to park at Cobblestone's on Pershing bc they'd let you park in the lot if you spent 20$ there

I got a Spothero spot for 12$ that's ~1.5 miles away so i'll just Uber from there, but is there any other realistic options away from the park ?


Park south of Pershing on Wallace or Parnell and walk the 6 blocks.

By the factory on Normal. 5 blocks



there's no factory there dumbshit.

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Attendance....Going to an MLB game
- is expensive
- involves a shitty drive or use of shitty public transportation
- involves really shitty weather
- the season is too fucking long. This also ties to shitty weather

People spend their time differently now as opposed to 50 years ago. there's a lot of truth to the point of sports being more of a television product. The NFL works because games are a limited schedule.

When 40% of your games are played in shitty weather, you're going to have attendance problems.

I don’t really agree with most of this. Going to a game is usually quite enjoyable, not very expensive, and it’s decent weather most of the time.


There is a subtle difference one needs to know when discussing sports attendance and costs etc. When talking to someone you need to know if they go once a season or many times. They are different perspectives. The one timer generally is in and out of a close expensive lot and goes for the whole experience. Eats there maybe twice and many beers perhaps a souvenir. That sure as hell gets expensive. The regular has their plan and routine i.e. Jorr's standing. Knows a guy in Bridgeport you can park by. Eats before or after except when you can't resist the onions smell and has some beers.


One thing I refuse to do is pay to park for a game in Chicago. I know my way around enough that I can figure out how to park free at Sox or Cubs.



well dont stop there. Spill the beans.

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