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why not prostitution

Pretty much every reason for the other legislation from this weekend also applies to prostitution as well.

Hey, we need the dues!

Do you think it should be illegal?


I already said in the post above, if you accept all of the reasons for legalizing gambling, marijuana and abortion, I think it is logically consistent to accept them for prostitution.

I don't think we would be a better society because of it.

I do think it would create a healthier industry for all interested parties for a service many partake in even when illegal...and think of all the tax revenue.


I think it should be legalized. I tend to have a very libertarian outlook when it comes to social issues, i.e. as long as no one is harmed... But I am open to being persuaded that personal autonomy should not be the highest value. I'm not sure that Western Civilization can be separated from traditional Christian morality.

The Sohrab Ahmari-David French beef touches on issues like this.


It can be, but it will not survive.

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The Sohrab Ahmari-David French beef touches on issues like this.



Is this similar to a French Dip, because I find that just a lame-ass Italian Beef, and, as such, should still be banned.

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Don't worry Donald Trump will save Christian Morality.

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The Sohrab Ahmari-David French beef touches on issues like this.



Is this similar to a French Dip, because I find that just a lame-ass Italian Beef, and, as such, should still be banned.


https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusi ... french-ism

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Hatchetman wrote:
Don't worry Donald Trump will save Christian Morality.



I think Ahmari's take is that there isn't a better option to do so.

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Don't worry Donald Trump will save Christian Morality.



I think Ahmari's take is that there isn't a better option to do so.


He's a fool. You cannot use evil to achieve good.

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If the only hope for good Christian values is a walking caricature of crass wealth who gets into feuds with Rosie O'Donnell and the ghost of John McCain, then bye-bye, horse, let me just close this here barn door.

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Hatchetman wrote:
You cannot use evil to achieve good.


Was it evil to drop a bomb on Nagasaki? Did it achieve good?

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It was not evil.

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Morality predates Christianity.

Western civilization will be fine.


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Hatchetman wrote:
It was not evil.



Of course it was. It needlessly fried thousands of civilians.

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Christian morality is pretty messed.

You can't do this this or that, but I can.


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Kirkwood wrote:
Morality predates Christianity.

Western civilization will be fine.


Morality is nothing more than what we find acceptable. Of course, it predates Christianity. But whether you want to acknowledge such or not, the prevailing morality in the U.S. during your lifetime is- not just informed by- but nearly completely a product of Christianity.

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Hatchetman wrote:
WRONG



I'm going to argue that burning a city of a quarter million with a radioactive bomb is just a little more evil than talking shit with Billy Bush. But hey, maybe I'm the one with the busted moral compass here. Who knows?

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maybe if you have a simplistic understanding of the situation and morality itself.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Morality predates Christianity.

Western civilization will be fine.


Morality is nothing more than what we find acceptable. Of course, it predates Christianity. But whether you want to acknowledge such or not, the prevailing morality in the U.S. during your lifetime is- not just informed by- but nearly completely a product of Christianity.

Which uses common sense rules/values that have existed for thousands of years like..."don't steal"


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Hatchetman wrote:
maybe if you have a simplistic understanding of the situation and morality itself.


You're doing nothing more than justifying an evil that you believe achieved a good. I'm not sure how it could be described any other way.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Morality predates Christianity.

Western civilization will be fine.


Morality is nothing more than what we find acceptable. Of course, it predates Christianity. But whether you want to acknowledge such or not, the prevailing morality in the U.S. during your lifetime is- not just informed by- but nearly completely a product of Christianity.

Which uses common sense rules/values that have existed for thousands of years like..."don't steal"



Is that a common sense rule? Really? One of the most popular politicians in the U.S. is running on a platform of theft.

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Violence is not inherently evil. A cop shoots a dude between the eyes that's holding a knife to a woman's neck. Not evil. This is not hard.

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Here is the French-Ahmari feud explained:

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusi ... french-ism

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(What prompted my ire was a Facebook ad for a children’s drag queen reading hour at a public library in Sacramento.)

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Hatchetman wrote:
maybe if you have a simplistic understanding of the situation and morality itself.


Morality is a pretty simple concept.

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Hatchetman wrote:
Violence is not inherently evil. A cop shoots a dude between the eyes that's holding a knife to a woman's neck. Not evil. This is not hard.


Thou shall not kill. The exceptions are where the rules break down.

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maybe if you have a simplistic understanding of the situation and morality itself.


Morality is a pretty simple concept.


LOL. Apparently not.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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It was not evil.



Of course it was. It needlessly fried thousands of civilians.


Interesting take on the bombings:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/th ... talin-did/

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Hatchetman wrote:
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maybe if you have a simplistic understanding of the situation and morality itself.


Morality is a pretty simple concept.


LOL. Apparently not.


Do you really think that sinners never do good?

Or that all leaders should be above moral reproach before we listen to them?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
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Morality predates Christianity.

Western civilization will be fine.


Morality is nothing more than what we find acceptable. Of course, it predates Christianity. But whether you want to acknowledge such or not, the prevailing morality in the U.S. during your lifetime is- not just informed by- but nearly completely a product of Christianity.

Which uses common sense rules/values that have existed for thousands of years like..."don't steal"



Is that a common sense rule? Really? One of the most popular politicians in the U.S. is running on a platform of theft.

Kirkwood wrote:
Christian morality is pretty messed.

You can't do this this or that, but I can.


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Kirkwood wrote:
Christian morality is pretty messed.

You can't do this this or that, but I can.


What?

I think you mean Islam.

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Do you really think that sinners never do good?

Or that all leaders should be above moral reproach before we listen to them?


1. The goodness of an action is measured by the intention of the action, not the result. We are all sinners. However, some amoral individuals have no desire to be anything but.
2. Not sure what you're getting at, but I don't ever listen to habitual liars.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Christian morality is pretty messed.

You can't do this this or that, but I can.


What?

I think you mean Islam.

Sure, both pretty cancerous.


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