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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:47 pm 
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Damn, LTG bout to get an avatar/sig change AND lose 50$.


I'm not the least bit worried. You will be disappearing again like you've done when it came to Thibs and Lebron. Kyrie too.

Remember when you were chest thumping about Doc and Gentry being terrible coaches? Only to vanish once it was obvious you looked foolish?


I never disappear from anything. Always up front about conceding an argument:

I don't recall I said doc was terrible. I most likely said he was overrated. I also said he was unprofessional for targeting and then acquiring his son in a trade. That's a conflict of interest he should have recognized but failed to do so. I think you agreed with me on this point.

I said Gentry would be fired either this year or last. Either way I missed on that one. But he's mediocre and nothing special - not backing down from that one.

I'm actually right on Kyrie on multiple fronts. I said he'd never win a finals as an alpha. Check. He hasn't even made one since leaving LBJ. I said he's a little bitch for failing to see how good he had it with LBJ. He admitted as much during a much publicized interview this year that vindicated everything I've ever said about him. I should get credit for that actually. Check.

I said Thibs was a first class coach. Never vouched for him as GM. Failed GM yes but again I never argued otherwise. Not backing down from the coach thing.

Not sure what you mean about LBJ.


Doc Rivers is light years ahead of Thibs as a coach. You're still living off of what Thibs did nearly a decade ago.

In all likelihood we may never see Thibs coach another game as a professional coach. You thought it "laughable" that I thought he was better than Thibs. You thought it laughable that I thought he was a top 5 coach.

It isn't just that you disagree. It's the out of hand dismissals. Goes a lot further than thinking he is overrated. You thought it dumb to even broach the subject.

As far as Kyrie goes the jury is out. I don't blame him for everything that went wrong with that team. There are a lot more problems than just him. Maybe he isn't a No.1 but so what? A lot of guys aren't and if he was so wrong about leaving then why is it that guys are essentially taking the same road as he did in refusing to play with Lebron?

Also you never ever considered the fact that Lebron was leaving in a year and Kyrie didn't want to be left with a roster of aging players that was constructed solely for Lebron.

Also if Kyrie seriously believed that he made a mistake in leaving Lebron then why won't he correct it and try and resign with Lebron?

Also you repeatedly stated that Kyrie isn't shit without Lebron. Ok which roster and org is in better shape currently? Lakers or Boston? Check.

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This last page was a tough read. Walt and LTG need to hug it out.


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This last page was a tough read. Walt and LTG need to hug it out.


Last page ?
They should have their own separate forum


Walt is an old bitter asshole that goes out of his way to fuck up these threads. If you think I'm lying just read the shit that he posts.

No one besides me ever responds to his dumbass. He is upset that no one likes or respects the bullshit that he says. As a response he tries to make it personal with me.

My response to that is fuck him. He wants it to be personal and now it will be with him. Every single comment of mine in regards to him will be that way from here on in.

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Once again Warriors in 6 and enough comparison between Kawhi and MJ ...now I'll hate the Raptors and Leonard! One comparison they both have big hands,,,,Jesus Christ :roll:

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veganfan21 wrote:
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Damn, LTG bout to get an avatar/sig change AND lose 50$.


I'm not the least bit worried. You will be disappearing again like you've done when it came to Thibs and Lebron. Kyrie too.

Remember when you were chest thumping about Doc and Gentry being terrible coaches? Only to vanish once it was obvious you looked foolish?


I never disappear from anything. Always up front about conceding an argument:

I don't recall I said doc was terrible. I most likely said he was overrated. I also said he was unprofessional for targeting and then acquiring his son in a trade. That's a conflict of interest he should have recognized but failed to do so. I think you agreed with me on this point.

I said Gentry would be fired either this year or last. Either way I missed on that one. But he's mediocre and nothing special - not backing down from that one.

I'm actually right on Kyrie on multiple fronts. I said he'd never win a finals as an alpha. Check. He hasn't even made one since leaving LBJ. I said he's a little bitch for failing to see how good he had it with LBJ. He admitted as much during a much publicized interview this year that vindicated everything I've ever said about him. I should get credit for that actually. Check.

I said Thibs was a first class coach. Never vouched for him as GM. Failed GM yes but again I never argued otherwise. Not backing down from the coach thing.

Not sure what you mean about LBJ.


Doc Rivers is light years ahead of Thibs as a coach. You're still living off of what Thibs did nearly a decade ago.

In all likelihood we may never see Thibs coach another game as a professional coach. You thought it "laughable" that I thought he was better than Thibs. You thought it laughable that I thought he was a top 5 coach.

It isn't just that you disagree. It's the out of hand dismissals. Goes a lot further than thinking he is overrated. You thought it dumb to even broach the subject.

As far as Kyrie goes the jury is out. I don't blame him for everything that went wrong with that team. There are a lot more problems than just him. Maybe he isn't a No.1 but so what? A lot of guys aren't and if he was so wrong about leaving then why is it that guys are essentially taking the same road as he did in refusing to play with Lebron?

Also you never ever considered the fact that Lebron was leaving in a year and Kyrie didn't want to be left with a roster of aging players that was constructed solely for Lebron.

Also if Kyrie seriously believed that he made a mistake in leaving Lebron then why won't he correct it and try and resign with Lebron?

Also you repeatedly stated that Kyrie isn't shit without Lebron. Ok which roster and org is in better shape currently? Lakers or Boston? Check.


Doc won in Boston but his record in LA is spotty. Though he took them to the playoffs he squandered the primes of both Paul and Griffin - they should have been more successful than they were. Rivers probably should have been fired and replaced with a coach who could get the Clippers from point B to C, which is what Rivers failed to do. But he deserves credit for getting the Clips from point A to B. In other words, Rivers was the Doug Collins for the Clips but never became the Phil Jackson they needed to get to the next level. They averaged around 55 wins per year over a four year stretch but never got out of the second round. That's just disappointing and again you fire a coach like that because he's not for whatever reason able to get them to the next level.

Thibs doesn't have Rivers' championship so that's an obvious degree of separation. Aside from that, Thibs has a better winning percentage even with the three years in Minny. You'd probably give the nod to Rivers because of the ring, but at the same time you can also say Rivers hasn't been as successful as a coach without Thibs as his defensive coordinator.

I don't think the jury is out on Kyrie - the verdict is in: he's a bitch and the jury consisted of Kyrie himself. Again, he admitted everything I said about him. AD wants to play with LBJ so I don't know what you mean about guys not wanting to play with LeBron. Kyrie is a failed alpha, just like I said he'd be. He was the face of a much more talented Boston squad that featured six lottery picks in the rotation that lost to a team featuring one star and a bunch of role players. The series wasn't even competitive. Total failure on Kyrie's part. Boston is indeed in better shape than LA, but that's not because of Kyrie. In fact, Boston will be in even better shape once Kyrie leaves that team. That will allow them to find a true alpha to lead that team to the top of the east, which is where they belong given all the talent.

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WWN is great. We will see who the basketball expert is based on who wins the bet.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
WWN is great. We will see who the basketball expert is based on who wins the bet.


Your efforts at trolling are pathetic at this point. If you were ever really any good at it you aren't anymore.

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veganfan21 wrote:
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veganfan21 wrote:
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veganfan21 wrote:
Damn, LTG bout to get an avatar/sig change AND lose 50$.


I'm not the least bit worried. You will be disappearing again like you've done when it came to Thibs and Lebron. Kyrie too.

Remember when you were chest thumping about Doc and Gentry being terrible coaches? Only to vanish once it was obvious you looked foolish?


I never disappear from anything. Always up front about conceding an argument:

I don't recall I said doc was terrible. I most likely said he was overrated. I also said he was unprofessional for targeting and then acquiring his son in a trade. That's a conflict of interest he should have recognized but failed to do so. I think you agreed with me on this point.

I said Gentry would be fired either this year or last. Either way I missed on that one. But he's mediocre and nothing special - not backing down from that one.

I'm actually right on Kyrie on multiple fronts. I said he'd never win a finals as an alpha. Check. He hasn't even made one since leaving LBJ. I said he's a little bitch for failing to see how good he had it with LBJ. He admitted as much during a much publicized interview this year that vindicated everything I've ever said about him. I should get credit for that actually. Check.

I said Thibs was a first class coach. Never vouched for him as GM. Failed GM yes but again I never argued otherwise. Not backing down from the coach thing.

Not sure what you mean about LBJ.


Doc Rivers is light years ahead of Thibs as a coach. You're still living off of what Thibs did nearly a decade ago.

In all likelihood we may never see Thibs coach another game as a professional coach. You thought it "laughable" that I thought he was better than Thibs. You thought it laughable that I thought he was a top 5 coach.

It isn't just that you disagree. It's the out of hand dismissals. Goes a lot further than thinking he is overrated. You thought it dumb to even broach the subject.

As far as Kyrie goes the jury is out. I don't blame him for everything that went wrong with that team. There are a lot more problems than just him. Maybe he isn't a No.1 but so what? A lot of guys aren't and if he was so wrong about leaving then why is it that guys are essentially taking the same road as he did in refusing to play with Lebron?

Also you never ever considered the fact that Lebron was leaving in a year and Kyrie didn't want to be left with a roster of aging players that was constructed solely for Lebron.

Also if Kyrie seriously believed that he made a mistake in leaving Lebron then why won't he correct it and try and resign with Lebron?

Also you repeatedly stated that Kyrie isn't shit without Lebron. Ok which roster and org is in better shape currently? Lakers or Boston? Check.


Doc won in Boston but his record in LA is spotty. Though he took them to the playoffs he squandered the primes of both Paul and Griffin - they should have been more successful than they were. Rivers probably should have been fired and replaced with a coach who could get the Clippers from point B to C, which is what Rivers failed to do. But he deserves credit for getting the Clips from point A to B. In other words, Rivers was the Doug Collins for the Clips but never became the Phil Jackson they needed to get to the next level. They averaged around 55 wins per year over a four year stretch but never got out of the second round. That's just disappointing and again you fire a coach like that because he's not for whatever reason able to get them to the next level.

Thibs doesn't have Rivers' championship so that's an obvious degree of separation. Aside from that, Thibs has a better winning percentage even with the three years in Minny. You'd probably give the nod to Rivers because of the ring, but at the same time you can also say Rivers hasn't been as successful as a coach without Thibs as his defensive coordinator.

I don't think the jury is out on Kyrie - the verdict is in: he's a bitch and the jury consisted of Kyrie himself. Again, he admitted everything I said about him. AD wants to play with LBJ so I don't know what you mean about guys not wanting to play with LeBron. Kyrie is a failed alpha, just like I said he'd be. He was the face of a much more talented Boston squad that featured six lottery picks in the rotation that lost to a team featuring one star and a bunch of role players. The series wasn't even competitive. Total failure on Kyrie's part. Boston is indeed in better shape than LA, but that's not because of Kyrie. In fact, Boston will be in even better shape once Kyrie leaves that team. That will allow them to find a true alpha to lead that team to the top of the east, which is where they belong given all the talent.



This demonstrates how little you actually pay attention to the games. Every year that Doc was coach of the Clippers Paul and Griffith were injured come playoff time. Either one or both of them were hurt. How is that Doc Rivers fault?

I give him the nod because he is simply a better coach. I give him the nod because he has demonstrated time and again that he does more with less than Thibs does. These past two years are illustrative of that.

You are still living off of Thibs first 2 years with the Bulls. That was 8 years ago. Thibs may never get another head coaching job. Rivers is still going strong.

As a developer of talent it's not even close. I can point to a number of guys playing the best basketball of their career under Rivers. Rookies and all.

Thibs's record is the result of coaching in a vastly inferior conf. Something that you just love to cite til you don't of course. Is there any doubt that Rivers would have done more with Minnesota's teams over the past 3 years than Thibs has?


It's not really even a discussion at this point.

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WWN is great. We will see who the basketball expert is based on who wins the bet.


Your efforts at trolling are pathetic at this point. If you were ever really any good at it you aren't anymore.

I love WWN.

You put it all on the line doubling down on the Raptors. If you win you get the credit. If WWN wins he gets all the credit.

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veganfan21 wrote:
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veganfan21 wrote:
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Damn, LTG bout to get an avatar/sig change AND lose 50$.


I'm not the least bit worried. You will be disappearing again like you've done when it came to Thibs and Lebron. Kyrie too.

Remember when you were chest thumping about Doc and Gentry being terrible coaches? Only to vanish once it was obvious you looked foolish?


I never disappear from anything. Always up front about conceding an argument:

I don't recall I said doc was terrible. I most likely said he was overrated. I also said he was unprofessional for targeting and then acquiring his son in a trade. That's a conflict of interest he should have recognized but failed to do so. I think you agreed with me on this point.

I said Gentry would be fired either this year or last. Either way I missed on that one. But he's mediocre and nothing special - not backing down from that one.

I'm actually right on Kyrie on multiple fronts. I said he'd never win a finals as an alpha. Check. He hasn't even made one since leaving LBJ. I said he's a little bitch for failing to see how good he had it with LBJ. He admitted as much during a much publicized interview this year that vindicated everything I've ever said about him. I should get credit for that actually. Check.

I said Thibs was a first class coach. Never vouched for him as GM. Failed GM yes but again I never argued otherwise. Not backing down from the coach thing.

Not sure what you mean about LBJ.


Doc Rivers is light years ahead of Thibs as a coach. You're still living off of what Thibs did nearly a decade ago.

In all likelihood we may never see Thibs coach another game as a professional coach. You thought it "laughable" that I thought he was better than Thibs. You thought it laughable that I thought he was a top 5 coach.

It isn't just that you disagree. It's the out of hand dismissals. Goes a lot further than thinking he is overrated. You thought it dumb to even broach the subject.

As far as Kyrie goes the jury is out. I don't blame him for everything that went wrong with that team. There are a lot more problems than just him. Maybe he isn't a No.1 but so what? A lot of guys aren't and if he was so wrong about leaving then why is it that guys are essentially taking the same road as he did in refusing to play with Lebron?

Also you never ever considered the fact that Lebron was leaving in a year and Kyrie didn't want to be left with a roster of aging players that was constructed solely for Lebron.

Also if Kyrie seriously believed that he made a mistake in leaving Lebron then why won't he correct it and try and resign with Lebron?

Also you repeatedly stated that Kyrie isn't shit without Lebron. Ok which roster and org is in better shape currently? Lakers or Boston? Check.


Doc won in Boston but his record in LA is spotty. Though he took them to the playoffs he squandered the primes of both Paul and Griffin - they should have been more successful than they were. Rivers probably should have been fired and replaced with a coach who could get the Clippers from point B to C, which is what Rivers failed to do. But he deserves credit for getting the Clips from point A to B. In other words, Rivers was the Doug Collins for the Clips but never became the Phil Jackson they needed to get to the next level. They averaged around 55 wins per year over a four year stretch but never got out of the second round. That's just disappointing and again you fire a coach like that because he's not for whatever reason able to get them to the next level.

Thibs doesn't have Rivers' championship so that's an obvious degree of separation. Aside from that, Thibs has a better winning percentage even with the three years in Minny. You'd probably give the nod to Rivers because of the ring, but at the same time you can also say Rivers hasn't been as successful as a coach without Thibs as his defensive coordinator.

I don't think the jury is out on Kyrie - the verdict is in: he's a bitch and the jury consisted of Kyrie himself. Again, he admitted everything I said about him. AD wants to play with LBJ so I don't know what you mean about guys not wanting to play with LeBron. Kyrie is a failed alpha, just like I said he'd be. He was the face of a much more talented Boston squad that featured six lottery picks in the rotation that lost to a team featuring one star and a bunch of role players. The series wasn't even competitive. Total failure on Kyrie's part. Boston is indeed in better shape than LA, but that's not because of Kyrie. In fact, Boston will be in even better shape once Kyrie leaves that team. That will allow them to find a true alpha to lead that team to the top of the east, which is where they belong given all the talent.



You keep pushing the "six lottery pick" angle as if that means something in of itself. The Bulls have more lottery picks on their roster and couldn't sniff the damn playoffs.

How many of those "6 lottery picks" actually made the All Star Team?

I rest my case.

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WWN is great. We will see who the basketball expert is based on who wins the bet.


Your efforts at trolling are pathetic at this point. If you were ever really any good at it you aren't anymore.

I love WWN.

You put it all on the line doubling down on the Raptors. If you win you get the credit. If WWN wins he gets all the credit.


Well whoopie. I'm sure you will be first in line celebrating if I win.

None of that stuff seemed to matter when I took and won other bets yet it does now. Wonder why?

When I recently won the Lebron bet were you front and center claiming that I was an "expert"? You can beat it as well.

How about the Philly bet?

Why now all of a sudden?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
WWN is great. We will see who the basketball expert is based on who wins the bet.


Your efforts at trolling are pathetic at this point. If you were ever really any good at it you aren't anymore.

I love WWN.

You put it all on the line doubling down on the Raptors. If you win you get the credit. If WWN wins he gets all the credit.


Well whoopie. I'm sure you will be first in line celebrating if I win.

None of that stuff seemed to matter when I took and won other bets yet it does now. Wonder why?

When I recently won the Lebron bet were you front and center claiming that I was an "expert"? You can beat it as well.

How about the Philly bet?

Why now all of a sudden?

I barely read this section.

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Okay Bernstein if your not 1st team NBA popularity contest you ain't shit.


And you wonder why this clown is a fucking dumbass as far as I'm concerned. GM's salaries are slotted based on making All NBA teams. Means nothing to that jerk however.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sport ... 38058.html

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/06/0 ... ba-status/


https://ca.nba.com/news/all-nba-team-an ... 3ucn2xsx4t

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
WWN is great. We will see who the basketball expert is based on who wins the bet.


Your efforts at trolling are pathetic at this point. If you were ever really any good at it you aren't anymore.

I love WWN.

You put it all on the line doubling down on the Raptors. If you win you get the credit. If WWN wins he gets all the credit.


Well whoopie. I'm sure you will be first in line celebrating if I win.

None of that stuff seemed to matter when I took and won other bets yet it does now. Wonder why?

When I recently won the Lebron bet were you front and center claiming that I was an "expert"? You can beat it as well.

How about the Philly bet?

Why now all of a sudden?

I barely read this section.


Perhaps you should continue the practice then.

He has shitted up 3 consecutive threads with his petty ass vendettas.

Every post is negative. If he isn't bashing individual posters he is telling the world how he hates certain players and the games. Every single post.

He never has anything constructive to say about anything. Others on here avoid him like he has a virus.

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Why so upset? You are calling WWN out. It seems like who was right on the bet would be relevant.

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Why so upset? You are calling WWN out. It seems like who was right on the bet would be relevant.


I don't care whether I win the bet or not. It denotes nothing. My point is in regards to the destruction he brings to the basketball sections in general. If you think that's great then so be it.

I'm not negative when it comes to sports. I like sports and always have. When over 90% of a guy's posts are negative then it speaks to who they are as a person.

The bitterness is old at this point. The targeting of me is old at this point. If he keeps this bullshit up I'm going to badger him until he is committed to a fucking nursing home.

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Okay Bernstein if your not 1st team NBA popularity contest you ain't shit.


And you wonder why this clown is a fucking dumbass as far as I'm concerned. GM's salaries are slotted based on making All NBA teams. Means nothing to that jerk however.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sport ... 38058.html

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/06/0 ... ba-status/


https://ca.nba.com/news/all-nba-team-an ... 3ucn2xsx4t

global panel of 100 sports writers and broadcasters pick the All NBA Team not a group of their peers or coaches, but K.C. Johnson and Neil Funk call me a dumb shit again....it is a popularity contest

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Okay Bernstein if your not 1st team NBA popularity contest you ain't shit.


And you wonder why this clown is a fucking dumbass as far as I'm concerned. GM's salaries are slotted based on making All NBA teams. Means nothing to that jerk however.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sport ... 38058.html

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/06/0 ... ba-status/


https://ca.nba.com/news/all-nba-team-an ... 3ucn2xsx4t

global panel of 100 sports writers and broadcasters pick the All NBA Team not a group of their peers or coaches, but K.C. Johnson and Neil Funk call me a dumb shit again....it is a popularity contest


Someone has to pick em dumbass. If you think Paul George was selected because writers simply like him more than Butler then you're a bigger idiot than first anticipated. Covers a lot of territory by the way.

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Paul George

28 pts 8 boards 4 assists per game.

Jimmy Butler

19 pts 5 Boards 4 Assists per game.

Yeah George was chosen because they simply like him more. Dumbass.

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Why so upset? You are calling WWN out. It seems like who was right on the bet would be relevant.

So right Brickster I can say that Steph Curry changed the game and this lunatic will bring up I think Ben Simmons is a bust because he can't shoot :D

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Paul George

28 pts 8 boards 4 assists per game.

Jimmy Butler

19 pts 5 Boards 4 Assists per game.

Yeah George was chosen because they simply like him more. Dumbass.

keep beating that horse

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:01 am 
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Damn, LTG bout to get an avatar/sig change AND lose 50$.


I'm not the least bit worried. You will be disappearing again like you've done when it came to Thibs and Lebron. Kyrie too.

Remember when you were chest thumping about Doc and Gentry being terrible coaches? Only to vanish once it was obvious you looked foolish?


I never disappear from anything. Always up front about conceding an argument:

I don't recall I said doc was terrible. I most likely said he was overrated. I also said he was unprofessional for targeting and then acquiring his son in a trade. That's a conflict of interest he should have recognized but failed to do so. I think you agreed with me on this point.

I said Gentry would be fired either this year or last. Either way I missed on that one. But he's mediocre and nothing special - not backing down from that one.

I'm actually right on Kyrie on multiple fronts. I said he'd never win a finals as an alpha. Check. He hasn't even made one since leaving LBJ. I said he's a little bitch for failing to see how good he had it with LBJ. He admitted as much during a much publicized interview this year that vindicated everything I've ever said about him. I should get credit for that actually. Check.

I said Thibs was a first class coach. Never vouched for him as GM. Failed GM yes but again I never argued otherwise. Not backing down from the coach thing.

Not sure what you mean about LBJ.


Doc Rivers is light years ahead of Thibs as a coach. You're still living off of what Thibs did nearly a decade ago.

In all likelihood we may never see Thibs coach another game as a professional coach. You thought it "laughable" that I thought he was better than Thibs. You thought it laughable that I thought he was a top 5 coach.

It isn't just that you disagree. It's the out of hand dismissals. Goes a lot further than thinking he is overrated. You thought it dumb to even broach the subject.

As far as Kyrie goes the jury is out. I don't blame him for everything that went wrong with that team. There are a lot more problems than just him. Maybe he isn't a No.1 but so what? A lot of guys aren't and if he was so wrong about leaving then why is it that guys are essentially taking the same road as he did in refusing to play with Lebron?

Also you never ever considered the fact that Lebron was leaving in a year and Kyrie didn't want to be left with a roster of aging players that was constructed solely for Lebron.

Also if Kyrie seriously believed that he made a mistake in leaving Lebron then why won't he correct it and try and resign with Lebron?

Also you repeatedly stated that Kyrie isn't shit without Lebron. Ok which roster and org is in better shape currently? Lakers or Boston? Check.


Doc won in Boston but his record in LA is spotty. Though he took them to the playoffs he squandered the primes of both Paul and Griffin - they should have been more successful than they were. Rivers probably should have been fired and replaced with a coach who could get the Clippers from point B to C, which is what Rivers failed to do. But he deserves credit for getting the Clips from point A to B. In other words, Rivers was the Doug Collins for the Clips but never became the Phil Jackson they needed to get to the next level. They averaged around 55 wins per year over a four year stretch but never got out of the second round. That's just disappointing and again you fire a coach like that because he's not for whatever reason able to get them to the next level.

Thibs doesn't have Rivers' championship so that's an obvious degree of separation. Aside from that, Thibs has a better winning percentage even with the three years in Minny. You'd probably give the nod to Rivers because of the ring, but at the same time you can also say Rivers hasn't been as successful as a coach without Thibs as his defensive coordinator.

I don't think the jury is out on Kyrie - the verdict is in: he's a bitch and the jury consisted of Kyrie himself. Again, he admitted everything I said about him. AD wants to play with LBJ so I don't know what you mean about guys not wanting to play with LeBron. Kyrie is a failed alpha, just like I said he'd be. He was the face of a much more talented Boston squad that featured six lottery picks in the rotation that lost to a team featuring one star and a bunch of role players. The series wasn't even competitive. Total failure on Kyrie's part. Boston is indeed in better shape than LA, but that's not because of Kyrie. In fact, Boston will be in even better shape once Kyrie leaves that team. That will allow them to find a true alpha to lead that team to the top of the east, which is where they belong given all the talent.



In addition is this. For years you have anointed Lebron Superman Status. Just place him on a roster and the rest will take care of itself. You never have accounted for the contributions of other All Stars/ Hall of Fame players.

You have also tried to make the case that supporting cast doesn't matter as long as you have Lebron. This season proved that this line of thinking is fallacious. Lebron alone gets you nowhere. That was the point that I always made and you laughingly discounted.

Now you've been proven wrong about that.

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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Why so upset? You are calling WWN out. It seems like who was right on the bet would be relevant.

So right Brickster I can say that Steph Curry changed the game:D


So did Dirk asshole. Still didn't make him better than Tim Duncan.

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why so upset? You are calling WWN out. It seems like who was right on the bet would be relevant.

So right Brickster I can say that Steph Curry changed the game:D


So did Dirk asshole. Still didn't make him better than Tim Duncan.

How the fuck did Dirk Change the game?

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why so upset? You are calling WWN out. It seems like who was right on the bet would be relevant.

So right Brickster I can say that Steph Curry changed the game:D


So did Dirk asshole. Still didn't make him better than Tim Duncan.

How the fuck did Dirk Change the game?


Ever heard of the term "stretch four" dumbass? Did you ever hear of that term before Dirk?

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long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why so upset? You are calling WWN out. It seems like who was right on the bet would be relevant.

So right Brickster I can say that Steph Curry changed the game:D


So did Dirk asshole. Still didn't make him better than Tim Duncan.

How the fuck did Dirk Change the game?


Ever heard of the term "stretch four" dumbass? Did you ever hear of that term before Dirk?

Calling me a dumbass strengthens and have you ever heard of him?

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why so upset? You are calling WWN out. It seems like who was right on the bet would be relevant.

So right Brickster I can say that Steph Curry changed the game:D


So did Dirk asshole. Still didn't make him better than Tim Duncan.

How the fuck did Dirk Change the game?


Ever heard of the term "stretch four" dumbass? Did you ever hear of that term before Dirk?

Calling me a dumbass strengthens and have you ever heard of him?

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Yeah and Before there was Steph Curry there was Mark Price. Didn't mean either changed the game. Your point was about "changing the game".

Providing Bob McAdoo doesn't address the point regarding "changing the game".

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Curry has made more 3's than Price took.Just for your edification tornadoes made a noise before trains were invented :!:

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Ever heard of the term "stretch four" dumbass? Did you ever hear of that term before Dirk?

Calling me a dumbass strengthens and have you ever heard of him?

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He claimed that McAdoo was a stretch four. McAdoo shot 8% from 3 for his career. He knows that now and still proceeds to argue that he is a stretch 4 anyway. And people wonder why I consider this idiot to be one of the dumbest motherfuckers currently inhabiting this place. He is a true waste of airspace

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Curry has made more 3's than Price took.Just for your edification tornadoes made a noise before trains were invented :!:


And Mcadoo shot 8% from 3 during his career. Mark Price is a whole closer to Curry than Mcadoo ever was to Dirk you damn dingbat.

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