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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:35 am 
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Someone explain the appeal of harness racing? Is it cheaper to run? Easier to fix? I don't get it.



It's traditional. It grew out of street racing. It would be analogous to NASCAR while thoroughbreds would be more like Indy cars.

There was a time when a fast road horse meant something. Dan Patch was the first giant sports celebrity in America.

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No, it grew out of people racing the horse and buggies home after church. Became a massive sport at the county fairs and state fairs. They would run short seasons at the tracks and head out to the fairs; you could make a living that way.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:51 am 
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Those south suburbs are gonna be fighting hard for the casino that's going there. I'd put it in Tinley Park on the site of that old insane asylum on Harlem, right off of I-80.


My guess would be on 159th around Pulaski between Oak Forest, Midlothian and Markham makes the most sense given the stated goals. Just like it seems counterproductive to put the city casino at the old Michael Reese site, when you still have swaths of the West side, not to mention the massive South Works site right on two miles of the lakefront.


183rd & Harlem. Should be announced today.

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https://www.britannica.com/sports/harness-racing

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Those south suburbs are gonna be fighting hard for the casino that's going there. I'd put it in Tinley Park on the site of that old insane asylum on Harlem, right off of I-80.


My guess would be on 159th around Pulaski between Oak Forest, Midlothian and Markham makes the most sense given the stated goals. Just like it seems counterproductive to put the city casino at the old Michael Reese site, when you still have swaths of the West side, not to mention the massive South Works site right on two miles of the lakefront.



Isn't that all CC forest preserve other than that hospital?


Mostly wasted space, yes.

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The new Maywood development is Chariot Logistics Center or something like that.

I would loved to have heard some of Grandma Burright's stories about the early days.


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So at what point can I bet on my phone while I am changing planes at Midway?

Id like a nice poker room, but I hate no limit. I just want a peaceful grindy 4-8 game.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
So at what point can I bet on my phone

This is the question I want answered quickly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:45 am 
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
So at what point can I bet on my phone while I am changing planes at Midway?

Id like a nice poker room, but I hate no limit. I just want a peaceful grindy 4-8 game.



4-6 months

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:00 am 
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312player wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
So at what point can I bet on my phone while I am changing planes at Midway?

Id like a nice poker room, but I hate no limit. I just want a peaceful grindy 4-8 game.



4-6 months


Where are you getting that? I think the bricks and mortar outlets are supposed to get an 18 month head start.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:11 am 
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I heard an interview with Kaplan, will be able to open an account with any casino in Illinois and bet from your phone.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:52 am 
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I heard an interview with Kaplan, will be able to open an account with any casino in Illinois and bet from your phone.



Yeah, but I don't think ADW on sports will be available for 18 months. Until then you'll be able to bet at the venues.

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I can't remember if it was Joe O, or Bernstein's guest legislator, but I think they said slots would be at the airports...not sure of the timeframe.

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312player wrote:
I heard an interview with Kaplan, will be able to open an account with any casino in Illinois and bet from your phone.

Do you have to be an Illinois resident (I won't be after July although I'll have a mailing address until October), or do you just have to be physically in the State of Illinois when you place the bet?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:38 pm 
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
312player wrote:
I heard an interview with Kaplan, will be able to open an account with any casino in Illinois and bet from your phone.

Do you have to be an Illinois resident (I won't be after July although I'll have a mailing address until October), or do you just have to be physically in the State of Illinois when you place the bet?



Can't you just setup an Illinois IP address?

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Illinois already fucking this up. Maybe by the Super Bowl.

Still Waiting: Here's Why Pritzker Hasn't Signed IL Sports Betting Into Law
Jill R. Dorson


It’s been more than three weeks since the Illinois General Assembly passed a massive capital bill that includes legalized sports betting and sent it to Governor J.B. Pritzker, yet Prtizker, who tasked the General Assembly with legalizing sports betting, has not signed it yet.

Why?

It could be any number of reasons, but there’s one in particular could be causing Pritzker to wait — late last week, it became public knowledge that Illinois Gaming Board Chairman Don Tracy tendered his resignation. Sources in Illinois say its possible that Pritzker is waiting to name Tracy’s successor before signing the legislation, which also includes a new land-based casino in Chicago. Tracy was appointed in 2105 by former Governor Bruce Rauner, and according to the State-Journal Register, he offered his resignation to Pritzker’s transition team last November.
Regulations, applications, testing

The fact that Pritzker hasn’t signed yet means the bill is not yet law, and as such, it’s unlikely that any action has been taken to move forward with sports betting — or anything else in the bill. But with regard to sports betting, the goal in every state is to launch by football season, but that seems unlikely, given that the gaming board (likely) hasn’t yet begun the regulations writing process.

In most jurisdictions, it has taken months from the time sports betting is legalized until regulations are rolled out and a public-comment period is opened. As an example, Washington D.C. legalized sports betting in December, but regulations weren’t put out for public comment until June 14.

That’s not unusual. It’s a lengthy process for a gaming commission to develop regulations that match the legislation that was passed, and in addition to that, some commissions must also negotiate a deal with their sports betting vendor, as well. That’s not likely part of the puzzle in Illinois, though, as the state lottery won’t be overseeing sports betting.

“I hope he signs it before July 1 so we can get a move on,” said Representative Mike Zalewski (D-District 23), who was the original sponsor of 2019 Illinois sports betting legislation. “But they might be realigning gaming board before he signs.”

Once Pritzker signs, the timeline would look something like this: 60-90 days for rules to be developed; the rules would then be open of public comment; casinos apply for master licenses; and finally, a testing period would be held just before launch. Also during this timeframe, suppliers and others in need of licenses to operate in relation to sports betting would be applying for licenses.

There are variables, and in some states, like Pennsylvania, the gaming commission rolled out temporary regulations rather than more permanent ones in 2018.
Football season launch not likely in IL

Zalewski said it’s possible — though he doesn’t know if it will happen — that lawmakers could invoke an emergency rule statue in Illinois that would move the process along a little faster.

While stakeholders — who have to build out their brick-and-mortar sportsbooks — are likely hoping for a football season launch, Zalewski called a Super Bowl rollout “a reasonable guess.”

Zalewski authored his sports betting bill early in the session and both he and Representative Bob Rita (D-District 28), who was the author of a bigger gaming bill, held multiple hearings on the topic. Their bills were ultimately rolled into the $12 billion capital bill that Rita sponsored on the House side during the last week of the session.

Voting on the bill came down to the wire and took an overtime session and plenty of dealing to get it done. Because of that, sports betting looks a bit different than it did in the original proposal. The bill was sent to Pritzker’s office on June 5.
Online sports betting could be revisited

“There are things I think people are going to ask in hindsight to revisit down the line,” Zalewski said. “Probably what the online marketplace looks like will be asked to be revisited. But critiques of the bill have been kind of muted. I think people were kind of overwhelmed with what happened on June 1 (when the bill passed the House) and are still digesting.”

Online sports betting was a hot topic of discussion during the process, with Rush Street Gaming, then owners of Rivers Casino, asking for a three-year “penalty box” for daily fantasy and sports betting giants DraftKings and FanDuel. Rush Street claimed the pair had been illegally operating their fantasy businesses in Illinois for several years and should be penalized by having to wait. In the bill that the General Assembly passed, all online-only operators are prohibited from launching sports betting until 18 months after bricks-and-mortar sportsbooks launch, effectively giving the existing Illinois casinos a head start.

Physical sportsbooks would be able to launch state-wide apps as soon as they meet regulatory approval.

Meanwhile, neighbors Indiana and Iowa, both of which legalized earlier this year and appear on target to have state-wide mobile sports betting in time for the NFL season. While Illinois may be missing kickoff, many are simply thrilled the market in the sixth most populous U.S. state is on track to open up period.

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It feels like Christmas in AZ. Between Caesars, FanDuel, MGM, DraftKings, and WynnBet, I've received about $1,000 in free bets and a few gimmies like this:



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It feels like Christmas in AZ. Between Caesars, FanDuel, MGM, DraftKings, and WynnBet, I've received about $1,000 in free bets and a few gimmies like this:


I'm guessing you can't cash out until you bet your winnings 20x. It's basically a monopoly money bet isn't it?


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Nardi wrote:
Ron Wolfley wrote:
It feels like Christmas in AZ. Between Caesars, FanDuel, MGM, DraftKings, and WynnBet, I've received about $1,000 in free bets and a few gimmies like this:


I'm guessing you can't cash out until you bet your winnings 20x. It's basically a monopoly money bet isn't it?


The catch is you do not collect your original free bet money, just potential winnings. No rollover Bovada-like requirements.


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