https://www.bleachernation.com/2019/06/ ... month-now/

And Baez is trending up as a young player. Abreu is trending down as a 32+ player.

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Still an .817 OPS (provided we count all of his home runs and doubles), still top two in the league relative to position in hits, home runs, and RBI.

Not too shabby for a scrub on the dowturn. Tell us again what a shitbag player that Bill Bucker was, can you please Mr Baseball?

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Stop acting like I tried to remove his statistics. His OPS was under .800 as recently as June 2nd.

RBI is a statistic of opportunity, not performance.
He hits in a phone booth.
His BA is in the .250's so I don't think counting hits out of context works to do you any favors.

Meanwhile there are only 13 qualifying 1B in the AL...

Out of those 13, Abreu is also 7th in BA, 10th in OBP and has the most strikeouts.

Similarly, Abreu's OPS has hovered in this area for the last couple of season, as has his batting average.


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I'll hang up and listen.

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But that's exactly what you did. Do his stats since June 2nd not count?

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Nobody "listens" to anything from anyone like you, dolt.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Baez was not exceptional in 2007.

Any other 2+ year old posts you would like me to respond to? Any other edits you are going to make hours after the fact?

Best thing to do would be to hang up on yourself.

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Posted 1:36p, edited 1:42p. Stop avoiding points.

You're saying Abreu is a top hitter at a time when his statistics mirror a player you called 'not exceptional'

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Im not avoiding anything. Facts are facts, handle it or don't. Abreu is top two among AL first basemen in hits, HR, and RBI.

Are you suggesting we compare Baez's 2017 stats to Abreu's today? Or do you want to compare Baez's 2017 to an arbitrary point when Abreu was slightly below an
800 OPS?

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2018-2019 Jose Abreu is 2017 Javier Baez at the plate. And he lacks Baez's other tools. How you feel about 2017 Baez is how you should now feel about Jose Abreu. Worse, actually, considering you should expect more out of a corner infield bat.

If you were being objective, of course.

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You didn't answer either question I asked you. Now who was avoiding things?

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I clearly answered that. You should compare and feel the same about the production of 2017 Baez and 2018-19 Abreu.

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All of this is beside the point. You are not going to get the value you need for him. So you might as well keep him. He's pretty damn good. Maybe he'll continue to be pretty damn good. Not 3 years, 60 million though. I'd go 2 at $20 and a club option.

Come-on. He will NEVER sign for anything that low. That is insulting for a player who is going to once again be an allstar 1st baseman. THey should either pay him the market value for an RBI and home run 3 hole hitter or trade him to some team that he can earn a title with. If the White Sox go cheap with him like they may decide to do, they will lose many of the players that Abreu is a role model and mentor for. Do you think that they are going to stick around and be anywhere loyal to a cheap skate owner and organization? They won't. These guys have pride and have memories and the White Sox action with Abreu is going to mean something down the road.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I think 3 for 45 would get him

The market is scary for aging DHs. He will be 33 years old. That will put him at over 100 million in earnings for his career and I really think he wants to stay in one place. He seems to be having more fun with these guys than any other year I have seen him.

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I'd say that is reasonable. And you do make a good point about having fun with the younger guys who do look up to him. The key to me is not to insult the guy. They risk not only alienating him but there are also the other Latin players to consider. Believe me that these guys are not dumb and will be looking at Abreu's situation as it presents itself as it pertains to what their future plans are.

We've talked a number of times about Reiny and the management or as I see it, the mismanagement of the White Sox. They better had not fuck this Abreu situation up. Here we have a star Latin player who by all reports is a great role model also. IF they want to trade him, then that is certainly a decent option assuming they get fair value in return. But they should not string this along and insult him by lowballing him and the last thing that they need is a pissed off Abreu.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

BTW. Since when is a 32 year old baseball player...….OLD? Particularly in the AL and playing 1B and DH? This poppycock from IMU is asinine.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Have you watched how free agency has been playing out?

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It's a business. If Abreu gets pissed, that's on him. His recourse is free agency.

Odds are he re-ups. It's safe to say he wants to stay and Sox fans want him to stay and Sox management wants him to stay. But it's a different world. Guys get paid for their projections, not what they've done.

IMU is right.

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Sure its a business but it is also a business not to be stupid in how you deal with players. Abreu is in his prime. He is an all-star. The White Sox need to negotiate with him as such. Perhaps, this isn't a big deal. It shouldn't be. But this is the White Sox front office and I think that they generally suck.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

The Sox have promoted Collins. More moves to follow.

Probably because Castillo is going to the IL. Might as well bring Cease up.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Will be a miracle if he can hit above 200

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What makes you say that he won't hit .200? He's hit at every level. What is better also is his on base performance. He strikes out a lot but he also draws a lot of walks. And, after all, if he hits .200 he's going to outhit Castillo.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Plus he plays some 1b. Ready for Alonso to be a lefty bat off the bench or released.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Get if Alonso gets those ABs for his option to vest, Hahn needs to be fired.

.250 and 35% K rate in AAA is no Gouda. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news

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Collins has been promoted to the Sox.

Thanks for breaking the news.

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he evens that out with big obp and slugging

He's certainly not a perfect player but plexiglass blocks are erected to honor players on some teams with the characteristics described above

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.