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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:47 pm 
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Q will be off the Cubs roster next year or the year after.

Eloy will be a White Sox for at least a decade.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:49 pm 
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The thing is, we weren't a 4th starter away from a WS. Epstein thought Q would drop that era by .4-.6 by going to the NL( I did too) it didn't happen. The NL and AL are equals. It's not like it was 10 years ago. His ERA has gone up since coming here.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:48 pm 
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Eloy with a 462ft homer and RBI double.

Quintana gives up 4 runs and cant make it out of the 5th inning, earning another L.

You picked one hellava day to start this thread, IMU :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:27 am 
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You don't trade your 2 top prospects for a #3.

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Q sucks. Thanks Theo for 2016, bye Felicia!.


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So what is that now, 5 bad starts in a row for Q after a good run of 6 or 7? Almost like his entire career

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:43 am 
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Quintana was an excellent white sox and a great person. I congratulate you on winning the trade.

The real beauty of the Quintana trade is that his low contract allowed the Cubs to go out and sign a top of the rotation starter to a huge, long term contract.

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Eloy with a 462ft homer and RBI double.

Quintana gives up 4 runs and cant make it out of the 5th inning, earning another L.

You picked one hellava day to start this thread, IMU :D

Also made a nice play in left in the 8th to keep it a 3 run game.

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If Eloy reaches the level that most people think then the Sox will easily win the trade.....doesn't even matter what Cease does. If Q leads the Cubs to another WS then it would be a Cubs win.

No one will really know for a few more years to see how things play out.

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Having Quintana on the Cubs roster is also just like saying FUCK YOU to Cubs fans.

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IMU, you're making this way too difficult.

It doesn't matter who was being blocked or any other internal factors on the Cubs.

Eloy was their top offensive prospect. Cease was their top pitching prospect. You don't trade that for a #3 (or#4) but I'll give him being a 3.

You trade that for a stud. A difference maker. Which up to this point, Quintana has not been. And I'll say that I highly doubt he will develop into one. He is who he is.

Now if Quintana goes on to be a #1 top of the rotation guy, I will gladly admit I'm wrong.


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If we are going to be prisoners of the moment, Cease has been awful in his last couple starts at AAA. Maybe another TJS soon.


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Cub on Cub violence as Peoria Matt has taken IMU to the woodshed MANY times here.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
IMU, you're making this way too difficult.

It doesn't matter who was being blocked or any other internal factors on the Cubs.

Eloy was their top offensive prospect. Cease was their top pitching prospect. You don't trade that for a #3 (or#4) but I'll give him being a 3.

You trade that for a stud. A difference maker. Which up to this point, Quintana has not been. And I'll say that I highly doubt he will develop into one. He is who he is.

Now if Quintana goes on to be a #1 top of the rotation guy, I will gladly admit I'm wrong.


Quintana was bordering on #1 with the Sox, was a young lefty with an incredibly team friendly contract and you were getting him at the beginning of what should have been his prime. Unfortunately, he had his best years with the Sox. If he were the same pitcher over his Sox career as he was with the Cubs, he would have been worth the price

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Peoria Matt wrote:
Now if Quintana goes on to be a #1 top of the rotation guy, I will gladly admit I'm wrong.

Q been n the league long enough for us all to know this will never happen.

Theo lost the trade. This thread is stupid.

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wdelaney72 wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Now if Quintana goes on to be a #1 top of the rotation guy, I will gladly admit I'm wrong.

Q been n the league long enough for us all to know this will never happen.

Theo lost the trade. This thread is stupid.


Jimenez and Cease have a combined - .1fWAR in the major leagues. To say he already lost the trade is fucking moronic.


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Caller Bob wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Now if Quintana goes on to be a #1 top of the rotation guy, I will gladly admit I'm wrong.

Q been n the league long enough for us all to know this will never happen.

Theo lost the trade. This thread is stupid.


Jimenez and Cease have a combined - .1fWAR in the major leagues. To say he already lost the trade is fucking moronic.


To say Theo would never trade Jimenez to the Sox for Quintana is moronic

saying they already won the trade is just premature

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Caller Bob wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Now if Quintana goes on to be a #1 top of the rotation guy, I will gladly admit I'm wrong.

Q been n the league long enough for us all to know this will never happen.

Theo lost the trade. This thread is stupid.


Jimenez and Cease have a combined - .1fWAR in the major leagues. To say he already lost the trade is fucking moronic.



War is moronic, so is using it as any kind of platitude. Jimenez will hit 40 homeruns next season. Cease will be a 4th starter next season. Theo got pantsed in this trade. Worse than Lemaheiu trade, worse than Letting Lastella walk and signing that shitbag Descalso.

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Who the fuck are you Ms Cleo? Get the fuck outta here with your "this will surely happen" shit


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Who the fuck are you Ms Cleo? Get the fuck outta here with your "this will surely happen" shit

Don’t die on this hill Bob. It’s a pretty easy one to walk back from. Let IMU catch the ensuing shrapnel

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In the end Theo MAY lose the trade but nothing is final. Reading comprehension..
I still say Cease blows his arm out again


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Caller Bob wrote:
In the end Theo MAY lose the trade but nothing is final. Reading comprehension..
I still say Cease blows his arm out again

Anything Cease gives us is a bonus. This was a disastrous trade for Theo.

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FavreFan wrote:
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In the end Theo MAY lose the trade but nothing is final. Reading comprehension..
I still say Cease blows his arm out again

Anything Cease gives us is a bonus. This was a disastrous trade for Theo.

If Eloy is the butcher you say he is..it won't be that bad


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Caller Bob wrote:
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In the end Theo MAY lose the trade but nothing is final. Reading comprehension..
I still say Cease blows his arm out again

Anything Cease gives us is a bonus. This was a disastrous trade for Theo.

If Eloy is the butcher you say he is..it won't be that bad

Eloy’s gonna be a stud. Don’t do this to yourself.

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I just want to post in this thread so that IMU waste more time voting for Quintana to the all-star game. Hopefully he makes the team, and then James McCann can hit a 450 foot bomb off of him.

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Board has more Cubs fans than I remember.

Or just as many illiterates as I remember.

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IMU wrote:
Board has more Cubs fans than I remember.

Or just as many illiterates as I remember.

Says the guy who's posted in the Sox section more than anywhere else the past few days...

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Quintana era has gone up since he got here, dude is a worse pitcher. It's easier pitching on teams with no pressure and win expectancy. The guy is soft, like Darvish.

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Quintana era has gone up since he got here, dude is a worse pitcher. It's easier pitching on teams with no pressure and win expectancy. The guy is soft, like Darvish.

Q is a 4th starter...at best. I wouldn't call him soft, but he's no ace. he's a serviceable starter that can eat innings and keep you in a game. He's a left handed Javier Vazquez.

Darvish isn't soft. He's just a bad pitcher. He's not even a good enough 5th starter.

Q > Darvish

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wdelaney72 wrote:
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Quintana era has gone up since he got here, dude is a worse pitcher. It's easier pitching on teams with no pressure and win expectancy. The guy is soft, like Darvish.

Q is a 4th starter...at best. I wouldn't call him soft, but he's no ace. he's a serviceable starter that can eat innings and keep you in a game. He's a left handed Javier Vazquez.

Darvish isn't soft. He's just a bad pitcher. He's not even a good enough 5th starter.

Q > Darvish



How does Quintana get worse on a better team? His ERA has gone up. He can't handle the pressure of 40k fans and WS expectations. He's more comfortable playing in front of 11k fans on 70 win teams.

Darvish has great stuff, he's just mentally weak.

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