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I hadn't seen much about this until this afternoon. Having seen it now, I'm kinda surprised that a Thai player didn't go for an American knee for all the same bullshit reasons supporters like Sarah Spain are out there spewing. (Edit: they were pumped up, under pressure for months, worried about goal differential, b.s., etc.)

This was more than running up the score and fist pumps and a few laughs after a goal. I really hope that the Swedes eliminate their asses again.



It was embarrassing, right?

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If goals scored is part of how you can advance, I think that's ridiculous. However if that really is a case then the US should have played to make it 20-0.

These "professional athletes" could have and should have acted way more differently after the score was 5 or 6 to nothing.

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For a sport people can’t wait to tell you nobody should care about (that’s men’s soccer, not even women’s), there sure are a lot of people caring about it.


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AP FACT CHECK: Trump tries to pin child separations on Obama

By CALVIN WOODWARD and NOMAAN MERCHANTApril 9, 2019


WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is wholly mispresenting the immigration detention policy he introduced that forced migrant children from their parents at the border. “President Obama had child separation,” Trump said Tuesday. “I’m the one that stopped it.” In fact, he stopped — or at least suspended — family separations that spiked as a result of his own “zero-tolerance” policy. A look at his remarks to reporters before meeting Egyptian President Abdel-Fatah el-Sissi:

TRUMP on family separations: “President Obama had the law. We changed the law, and I think the press should accurately report it but of course they won’t.”


THE FACTS: This is false. Trump did not achieve any change in the law.

Operating under the same immigration laws as Barack Obama, Trump instituted a zero-tolerance policy aimed at detaining everyone who was caught crossing the border illegally and criminally prosecuting all the adults.

The policy meant adults were taken to court for criminal proceedings and their children were separated and sent into the care of the Health and Human Services Department. In the face of a public uproar, Trump suspended most separations in June. About 2,400 children were taken from parents at the height of the separations. During the Obama administration and before Trump’s zero-tolerance policy was introduced, migrant families caught illegally entering the U.S. were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation, unless they were known to have a criminal record.

Trump repeatedly but without specifics rails against a “Democrat” law that he wrongly claims to have changed. He appears to be referring to one that passed unanimously in Congress and was signed by Republican President George W. Bush. It was focused on freeing and otherwise helping children who come to the border without a parent or guardian and does not call for family separation.

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TRUMP: “Just so you understand, President Obama separated the children.”

THE FACTS: Not in widespread fashion. Then and now, immigration officials may take a child from a parent in certain cases, such as serious criminal charges against a parent, concerns over the health and welfare of a child or medical concerns. The Obama administration also contended with a surge of minors who came to the border without parents and were held in short-term Border Patrol detention.

It did not seek to criminally prosecute all who crossed the border illegally, without regard to whether those who were caught had committed crimes other than illegal entry.

Family separations were the exception before Trump made them the rule.

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TRUMP on family separations: “Once you don’t have it, that’s why you see many more people coming. They’re coming like it’s a picnic, because ‘let’s go to Disneyland.’”

THE FACTS: It’s not been proved that people are discouraged from coming to the U.S. when they know their children will be taken from them if they are caught.

Apprehensions did fall last summer, after the June suspension of separations, but they decline most summers because of the extreme heat in much of Mexico and the border region.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials announced on Tuesday that they apprehended about 53,000 parents and children at the southern border in March. The officials declined to answer a question about whether they believed family separation was an effective deterrent.

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Merchant contributed to this report from Houston.

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Oddly I've only seen this reported once or twice.

Which aids the b.s. right wing talking points.

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I hadn't seen much about this until this afternoon. Having seen it now, I'm kinda surprised that a Thai player didn't go for an American knee for all the same bullshit reasons supporters like Sarah Spain are out there spewing. (Edit: they were pumped up, under pressure for months, worried about goal differential, b.s., etc.)

This was more than running up the score and fist pumps and a few laughs after a goal. I really hope that the Swedes eliminate their asses again.



It was embarrassing, right?


To the point that I want to see them get absolutely pasted. And for their loudest fangirls to stfu.

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I think they can take Chile on Sunday

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The commentators this morning said Nigeria was big, strong, and athletic :lol:


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I think they can take Chile on Sunday


Hopefully they score 15 and pull out a cellphone, take a team picture, do a rowboat, and all other sorts of nonsense.

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For a sport people can’t wait to tell you nobody should care about (that’s men’s soccer, not even women’s), there sure are a lot of people caring about it.

Actually, the debate is women acting like, well, women. There has not been a single post in this thread about the actual gameplay.

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For a sport people can’t wait to tell you nobody should care about (that’s men’s soccer, not even women’s), there sure are a lot of people caring about it.

Maybe because it's in the news? If they win 3-0 I doubt there's a 4 page thread about it.

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I hadn't seen much about this until this afternoon. Having seen it now, I'm kinda surprised that a Thai player didn't go for an American knee for all the same bullshit reasons supporters like Sarah Spain are out there spewing. (Edit: they were pumped up, under pressure for months, worried about goal differential, b.s., etc.)

This was more than running up the score and fist pumps and a few laughs after a goal. I really hope that the Swedes eliminate their asses again.



It was embarrassing, right?


To the point that I want to see them get absolutely pasted. And for their loudest fangirls to stfu.



I'm not going to root against them, even though these national competitions aren't close to the same as they were in the Cold War era in which we grew up and I don't think it's a big deal for an American to want them to lose the way I would have considered an American rooting against the U.S. Olympic team in the 70s to be nearly treasonous. :lol:

I don't think they're bad people. It was nice that Morgan hugged one of the Thai players and comforted her after the game. But they just seem selfish and a little tone deaf about their celebrating. "This is about us, about our team." Sure they can feel that way. And I can also feel they're acting like assholes.

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For a sport people can’t wait to tell you nobody should care about (that’s men’s soccer, not even women’s), there sure are a lot of people caring about it.

Actually, the debate is women acting like, well, women. There has not been a single post in this thread about the actual gameplay.

Women acting like women? Okay then. Surprised you didn’t add one of your oh so hilarious women driver jokes.


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For a sport people can’t wait to tell you nobody should care about (that’s men’s soccer, not even women’s), there sure are a lot of people caring about it.

Maybe because it's in the news? If they win 3-0 I doubt there's a 4 page thread about it.


There are thousands of news stories every day about things I don’t care about that I don’t post about.


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For a sport people can’t wait to tell you nobody should care about (that’s men’s soccer, not even women’s), there sure are a lot of people caring about it.

Actually, the debate is women acting like, well, women. There has not been a single post in this thread about the actual gameplay.

Women acting like women? Okay then. Surprised you didn’t add one of your oh so hilarious women driver jokes.


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For a sport people can’t wait to tell you nobody should care about (that’s men’s soccer, not even women’s), there sure are a lot of people caring about it.

Maybe because it's in the news? If they win 3-0 I doubt there's a 4 page thread about it.


There are thousands of news stories every day about things I don’t care about that I don’t post about.

This is a message board built around sports - so sports stories get posted and discussed. It's not like it's a 4 page thread about a milk truck overturning near Anytown, USA.

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For a sport people can’t wait to tell you nobody should care about (that’s men’s soccer, not even women’s), there sure are a lot of people caring about it.

Maybe because it's in the news? If they win 3-0 I doubt there's a 4 page thread about it.

If they win 3-0 it’s likely there’s zero thread and very little coverage about it. It sounds like they did a solid job at getting themselves attention and publicity.

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I loved Barry Sanders. Wish we could see that type of play again.

You can, but not in a sport you like. Kawhi Leonard.

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I hadn't seen much about this until this afternoon. Having seen it now, I'm kinda surprised that a Thai player didn't go for an American knee for all the same bullshit reasons supporters like Sarah Spain are out there spewing. (Edit: they were pumped up, under pressure for months, worried about goal differential, b.s., etc.)

This was more than running up the score and fist pumps and a few laughs after a goal. I really hope that the Swedes eliminate their asses again.



It was embarrassing, right?


To the point that I want to see them get absolutely pasted. And for their loudest fangirls to stfu.



I'm not going to root against them, even though these national competitions aren't close to the same as they were in the Cold War era in which we grew up and I don't think it's a big deal for an American to want them to lose the way I would have considered an American rooting against the U.S. Olympic team in the 70s to be nearly treasonous. :lol:

I don't think they're bad people. It was nice that Morgan hugged one of the Thai players and comforted her after the game. But they just seem selfish and a little tone deaf about their celebrating. "This is about us, about our team." Sure they can feel that way. And I can also feel they're acting like assholes.


I can barely believe that I'm rooting against an American team, but I despise bullies. Especially ones that seem to enjoy being so low class.

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I loved Barry Sanders. Wish we could see that type of play again.

You can, but not in a sport you like. Kawhi Leonard.


Funny thing is that I loved Pat Summitt's old teams that hardly had any competition most times. But they almost always played with class.

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Who cares about the score. Nobody is cheering for the US when we are good at something. Best to embrace the heel status. Play into all the stereotypes that piss off the world. Walk onto the field with a burger in hand wearing a wife beater with some cliched phrase about American supremacy written on it.

They expect us to run up the score. Hell, they WANT us to run up the score. Sports are more fun when there is a team to hate.

and this plays into the issue of player compensation. The more people hate, the more they will watch to see you lose. The more you win, the more Americans will watch as bandwagoners. If you get people to watch, you will actually earn your raise.

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Hope Solo once again the voice of reason in America.

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The commentators this morning said Nigeria was big, strong, and athletic :lol:


they've got strong motors


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Hope Solo once again the voice of reason in America.

They stabbed her in the back so she's doing it to them :lol:

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Hope Solo once again the voice of reason in America.

They stabbed her in the back so she's doing it to them :lol:

Yeah she has a huge beef .

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Hope Solo once again the voice of reason in America.

They stabbed her in the back so she's doing it to them :lol:



Didn't she stab her teenage nephew in the back literally?

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Hope Solo once again the voice of reason in America.

They stabbed her in the back so she's doing it to them :lol:

Yeah she has a huge beef .


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Chile without a Hershey's Kiss doesn't stand a chance.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Hope Solo once again the voice of reason in America.

They stabbed her in the back so she's doing it to them :lol:

Yeah she has a huge beef .

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