Sequel to the Shining.

https://youtu.be/2msJTFvhkU4

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Not a mult.

It’s worth a watch for sure.

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This book wasn’t bad. I was skeptical going in, but I enjoyed it.

No it's not.

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book was excellent. will see this for sure.

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if it don't have ass panel bear costume fellatio, I ain't watching

The brilliance of The Shining movie is in Kubrick, not King so even the same writer isn't going to produce a similarly satisfying movie experience

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I'm not here to defend King per se but here's my thoughts on this movie and dolphins post.

Kubrick's Shining and Kings Shining are two different stories. The book was more of a focus on Jack and his strained but extremely loving relationship with Danny. Jack positively loved Danny, and really didnt show any aggression toward him until the very end and even then he redeemed himself. Wendy was a completely different person. She was a strong woman, intelligent and had cunning. In fact she largely took care of the duties around the hotel that Jack neglected as he descended into madness. In Kubrick's vision, she was a shrieking meek demur woman who couldn't handle the kitchen. Dick was completely different too, and had a big part in the ending of the book. He didnt just get chopped in the chest with an axe as he entered the hotel.

That being said, 70s and 80a and 90s king stories turned into movies are largely garbage with a couple notable exceptions.

And I'll say that King couldn't end a story with a satisfying ending for his life. All the books, almost every one, leads up magically to a terrible ending. Like he just wrote a great story, got bored, and said, "yeah let's kill the bad guy with a magic bouquet of flowers and can of snakes" (yeah that happened).

But Dr. Sleep, man that was a solid finish. Not bad at all. And I hope the movie does what the book does at the end because... well hopefully you'll see if you don't know.

After the new It was very good, I've got high Hope's for Dr. Sleep.

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I think I distinguished the difference when I specified "the movie".

There is a school of criticism of the movie that Jack is a pedo who has sexually abused Danny. There are many theories and analysis of the movie with outrageous viewpoints out there as I think Kubrick fans strive to find a unified theory behind his book of work. It's interesting stuff. I'm not sure if its valid but it is interesting.

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That's an interesting take. Shawshank had a happy ending. From the same book, Different Seasons, the Body story (Stand By Me) did not have one with Chris Chambers dying. Vern died, too, but maybe I forget. The Master Vampire was killed in Salem's Lot. The little girl torched everyone in "Firestarter" and escaped the government baddies. So it's not entirely true what you said.

I re-read "The Body" a little while back. Good story. "The Dead Zone" is not. So boring I couldn't finish it.

I'll counter with the aforementioned ending to Needful Things, ending with a magic can of snakes and a magic paper bouquet of flowers that forces the evil bad guy to just fuck off into the sunset. And Tommyknockers ending with Gard just fucking off into space and the CIA or whatever coming to collect gadgets... weird. Even the stand.. an awesome book by the way, ends with a magical finger setting off a bomb and even that doesnt kill Flagg. It... another case of ordinary items turning suddenly into magic weapons (the asthma inhaler). Look mate, I'm not saying hes not a good writer, hell I love his writing. And the books I've mentioned are amongst my favorites. I loved the stand. It sounds like bullshit but I've read it a half dozen times, as have I read It a half dozen times or more.
The only criticism I have of king is how he ends many of his novels. Mundane object becomes magical and kills or dissuades bad guy from doing bad guy stuff.
Its weird.

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I wouldn't have guessed the threads that brought you and Denis back. Glad to see you both.

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Add in the end to The Dark Tower books where he writes himself as a character who is equivalent to a god. Or at least the voice of god. His endings for thr most part stink. Worse yet, he seems to chastise people for being upset at the ends of his stories instead of just enjoying the journey.

Insomnia had a good ending. And I think the Jack Sawyer books did too.

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Insomnia did have a good ending, agreed. I dont think king wrote the end of the Talisman or Black House.

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I agree on The Talisman. Black House I thought he wrote it due to the tie in with the Dark Tower stuff.

Hopefully he and Straub team up one last time to finish Jack Sawyer's tale.

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i didn't mind "the stand" ending, but it sure looked goofy in the TV movie. the epilogue featuring randall flagg enticing a new culture of people was a nice touch.

the biggest problem with king's endings is that they come from so much promise and mystique that he builds something too big, with more imagination poured into the premise instead of the ending. so that's why there's so much "oh it's aliens" or something.

i still like the ending of "it" (sans child orgy) as well; but he definitely deserves criticisms for his bad endings.

I don't care if this is an adaptation of a novel King wrote, Kubrick's adaptation is infinitely better than King's actual novel. The fact that King hated the adaptation tells us this was the case because he didn't like being upstaged by the greatest director to have ever lived.

With that said, I have no interest in seeing a sequel to a Kubrick film after Kubrick has been dead for 20 years. This will just set us up for disappointment. The fact that the trailer relies so heavily upon iconic imagery from a nearly 40 year old film tells us that this sequel will fail to stand-up on its own. It relies upon Kubrick's superior work to even draw our attention.

King's adaptations are hit or miss, but the fact that King detested the greatest horror film ever made makes me skeptical going into this.

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from what ive read, the director spoke to king and basically told him we cant ignore that the shining movie happened. so, we're going to tell this story and be as faithful as we can while still acknowledging parts that benefit our story from the shining adaptation. king gave his ok and blessing to that. in the book(s) the overlook is gone. I assume danny walking through the old room with the redrum door is a vision.

as for criticism for Kubrick's movie...my only issue is one that king has mentioned most - you know right away from the first time you see Nicholson that Jack is a fucking lunatic. the whole essence and beauty of the novel was the spirits of the hotel trying to manipulate danny, but they couldn't so they began to overtake his father in order to get to him and drove him mad. as for other stuff, I don't think keeping in hedge animals come to life would necessarily add to any scares, so, point Kubrick.

had jack not been written or acted poorly, but properly, kubricks movie would probably be the best of all time.

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I gotta go back and watch the Shining again.

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This is on HBO, and it is very good.

Much better than I thought it would be.

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so good.

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it says it's being released in theaters so apparently no one will see it. shame