It really takes some insight in order to draw that conclusion.

In limited action Fultz was still more impressive. Even while playing with a bum ass shoulder.

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That’s a bold take. Let’s see how it works out for you.

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I won't be posting here in 10 years. I will have forgotten this entire conversation.

Bold take or not I'm comfortable saying (and betting) he won't be an All Star in 2 years. I'm also comfortable in saying (and betting)that he won't avg 25 and 9 in two years either.

There were strong beliefs pertaining to both statements(til there wasn't of course)

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Really bad decision by Horford.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

How so?

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You think he is going to get more than 30 million a year on his next deal?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I think he’s going to get a hell of a lot more than that total.

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The Cavs signed a washed up Love to a four-year, $120 million extension and now are mad that it's hard to find a trading partner for him

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His Avg per year will be less but overall he will likely earn more money. If he opts in and comes back a year from now he probably will make a lot less money. He also risks getting injured.

Better to opt out now while he is a year younger and relatively healthy.

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I think Horford gets something like 3/60-70 this summer. Lots of cap room available out there and not that many players better than Horford on the market.

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Good luck Morey

I keep forgetting this guy is even in the league still

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Messed up that after the Celts fleeced the Nets for half their first round picks over the last 6 years the Nets next season might end up with a better team than Boston.

Knicks consolation prize for missing out on the top free agents this off-season.

I hope that means an end to the Harden-Chris Paul State Farm ads during the playoffs.

At some point Ainge was going to have to balance out the gift that McHale gave him years ago.

And I love that it comes at the hands of Brooklyn. Who also get to stick to the Knicks and their fans.

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Kyrie being a leader of young players hasn't gone too well. Good luck Nets.

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What this would do is artificially deflate the amount of money rookies make overall. Not the top few guys but those players drafted mid to late first round would not see the same type of money they do now.

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Man, I really fucking hate that argument. The players can choose to live and work wherever they want. Nobody is forcing them to play in the NBA. When I joined the Army I didn't get to choose what base they sent me to. Because everyone would choose Fort Shafter and Fort Polk needs soldiers too

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But that's like one of the arguments against paying college athletes, that only the top tier really get paid. Which only holds water if you accept the proposition that a hard, relatively arbitrary wage scale holds merit in entertainment.

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I don't care for the Nets either, so it's a win win for me.

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But unlike the NCAA, players are fighting for spots with guys who are already getting paid (legally).
There is a salary cap. Unless that goes away too most of these guys would be forced into team friendly deals.

But it will never happen as the union would never go for rookies making a shit ton of money again in the cap era.

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I thought smoking pot makes you happy?

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This year Ainge essentially morphed into John Paxson. He overvalued his role players i.e Rozier/Smart and acted as if he had a team of budding All Stars when he really didn't. He should have moved a couple of guys when their value was highest and improved the roster by streamlining his bench. By neglecting to do so he was relegated to overseeing a team consisting of 9 guys that all believed they should be starting and starring. It was a recipe for disaster. Kyrie deserves some of the blame as his leadership skills were absolutely atrocious.

He stunk this year as a leader and he came up small against Milwaukee after playing lights out the first game. He has to own and accept that and if he continues to pass the buck and the blame he will lose a lot of credibility in the locker room and around the league.

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Yeah, the Celts young core's value was at its peak last Summer. Various reports say Ainge offered a slew of first-round picks (picks the Celts have due from Grizzlies/Clippers/Kings) for Kawhi last off-season but wouldn't budge on Tatum/Brown. San Antonio likely wanted Tatum and/or Brown maybe along with Smart or Rozier in some combination. Kawhi and Danny Green on the Celts instead of the Raptors alongside Kyrie/Horford et al easily win the Eastern Conference--and if KD's out the title (and maybe even take the title against a fully healthy Warriors team). But Ainge reportedly considered Tatum untouchable in trade talks last off-season. Tatum this off-season doesn't appear to be untouchable, as Ainge supposedly was willing to include him in a deal for a year of Anthony Davis.

Our son loves Boston and Horford especially. I told him Horford's leaving and he said he's not my favorite player any more.

The heartbreak of your favorite player leaving. Just like his dad felt when Kingman went back to the Mets.

Tatum slipped a little this year. He has to stay from the tuck step Kobe like fadeaway shots (And Kobe also). Stevens has to do a better job of Identifying roles too.

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Brad Stevens stock has taken a hit. Last year people were like "how many 1st round picks would you give up in a trade for Brad Stevens", don't hear that these days. Maybe Stevens' Gordon Hayward fetish blinded him to his team's obvious playing time / role issues this last season.

your son is definitely a Boston fan at heart

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul