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Who wins when both sides can clam discrimination? Make a transgender category at the state meet. Problem solved.

Complaint targets transgender HS track athletes

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HARTFORD, Conn. -- Three Connecticut girls who have run high school track have filed a federal discrimination complaint saying a statewide policy on transgender athletes has cost them top finishes in races and possibly college scholarships.

The complaint, filed Monday with the U.S. Education Department's Office for Civil Rights, was submitted by the law firm Alliance Defending Freedom on behalf of the girls, who are asking for an investigation of the policy and orders that would make competitions fair. The complaint also cites the federal Title IX rules aimed at equal rights in sports for female athletes.

"Girls deserve to compete on a level playing field," said Christiana Holcomb, legal counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom. "Women fought long and hard to earn the equal athletic opportunities that Title IX provides. Allowing boys to compete in girls' sports reverses nearly 50 years of advances for women under this law. We shouldn't force these young women to be spectators in their own sports."

The Connecticut Interscholastic Athletic Conference, which governs high school sports in the state, says its policy follows a state anti-discrimination law requiring students to be treated in school according to the gender with which they identify. That means that athletes can compete according to their expressed gender identity as opposed to their sex assigned at birth.

Glenn Lungarini, executive director of CIAC, told The Hartford Courant on Tuesday that the governing body had not been contacted by the Office of Civil Rights, but that it would cooperate fully.

"The CIAC is committed to equity in providing opportunities to student athletes in Connecticut," he said in a statement. "We take such matters seriously, and we believe that the current CIAC policy is appropriate under both Connecticut law and Title IX."

Lungarini added that CIAC reviewed the language with the Office of Civil Rights in Boston to ensure compliance with Title IX and discussed the policy with Connecticut's Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities.

"I have faced discrimination in every aspect of my life and I no longer want to remain silent," Terry Miller, one of the two transgender athletes identified in the complaint, told The Courant. "I am a girl and I am a runner. I participate in athletics just like my peers to excel, find community and meaning in my life. It is both unfair and painful that my victories have to be attacked and my hard work ignored."

Miller, along with Andraya Yearwood, the other athlete identified in the complaint, is working with the American Civil Liberties Union.

"I have known two things for most of my life," Yearwood said in a statement to The Courant. "I am a girl and I love to run. There is no shortage of discrimination that I face as a young black woman who is transgender.

"I am lucky to live in a state that protects my rights and to have a family that supports me. That is what keeps me going."

The national ACLU staff attorney, Chase Strangio, called the situation "heartbreaking" in a statement to the Courant on Wednesday.

"Efforts to undermine Title IX by claiming it doesn't apply to a subset of girls will ultimately hurt all students," Strangio said in the statement.

The argument that gender identity amounts to an unfair advantage in sports is a recurring one in the complex debate around intersex and transgender athletes as they break barriers in sports around the world from high school to the pros.

Earlier this week, Olympic running sensation Caster Semenya won an interim ruling in her battle against track and field's governing body. The Swiss supreme court ordered the suspension of regulations that would require female runners with unusually high testosterone to take medication to reduce their levels of the male sex hormone if they want to compete in certain events.

The complaint from Connecticut says transgender girls have been consistently winning track and field events and the policy violates federal protections for female athletes.

The athletes who filed the complaint include Selina Soule, of Glastonbury High School, and two others whose names and schools were not disclosed.

Soule told The Associated Press earlier this year, after competing in a 55-meter dash won by a transgender student, that the issue is about fairness on the track.

"We all know the outcome of the race before it even starts; it's demoralizing," she said. "I fully support and am happy for these athletes for being true to themselves. They should have the right to express themselves in school, but athletics have always had extra rules to keep the competition fair."

Connecticut is one of at least 17 states that allow transgender high school athletes to compete without restrictions, according to Transathlete.com, which tracks state policies in high school sports across the country.

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The natural extension in sports now will be to make them co-ed. That will be more than a bit sad for actual women, girls and their families. And create one helluva fight.

Those transgender kids' parents & their lawers ought to be ashamed of themselves. But they won't be.

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Make a transgender category at the state meet. Problem solved.


I don't follow all these stories all that closely but it's unclear to me why it's not this simple.

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They are women though. Don’t label them.

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Make a transgender category at the state meet. Problem solved.


I don't follow all these stories all that closely but it's unclear to me why it's not this simple.


Because they view themselves as Female and do not want to be singled out.

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Those transgender kids' parents & their lawers ought to be ashamed of themselves. But they won't be.


Sadly, it's what they feel they "deserve". And you're right...in the long run, the co-ed integration of most sports is going to negatively effect female athletes...to the point that one of two things happens...either governing bodies implement required quotas of each gender of athlete per team (like co-ed softball), or the women turn on the L:MRBAUNFGLKANJ+ people they want to support otherwise because they're now getting screwed.

Oddly enough, my main "athletic" activity, bowling, is one of the few games where top women can actually compete with the top men.

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Yep, they're not "transgender", they're women.

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Make a transgender category at the state meet. Problem solved.


I don't follow all these stories all that closely but it's unclear to me why it's not this simple.


Because they view themselves as Female and do not want to be singled out.

Oh. Well tough shit, that's not a good enough reason to destroy the competitive balance of women's sports.

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If you have a Y chromosome, you run with the men. It should be that simple.

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The natural extension in sports now will be to make them co-ed. That will be more than a bit sad for actual women, girls and their families. And create one helluva fight.

Those transgender kids' parents & their lawers ought to be ashamed of themselves. But they won't be.

Law lof unintended consequences. This is what happens when you cater to a fringe element.

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Law of unintended consequences. This is what happens when you cater to a fringe element.

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If you have a Y chromosome, you run with the men. It should be that simple.

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Complete insanity in Connecticut when it comes to Andraya Yearwood competing in girls sports. All common sense has taken a back seat in this case and nobody dares stand up and state the obvious - Andraya Yearwood is a boy "identifying" as a girl and should not be allowed to participate in girls athletics. It truly is madness and a terrifying snapshot of the direction this country is (not-so) slowly moving.


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Make a transgender category at the state meet. Problem solved.


I don't follow all these stories all that closely but it's unclear to me why it's not this simple.


Because they view themselves as Female and do not want to be singled out.

Oh. Well tough shit, that's not a good enough reason

This should be the standard reply to most of this bullshit .

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Oddly enough, my main "athletic" activity, bowling, is one of the few games where top women can actually compete with the top men.


Women can compete to a large degree, but don't they still have separate divisions because there is an element of strength/stamina in holding and delivering the ball where males have the advantage?

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Oddly enough, my main "athletic" activity, bowling, is one of the few games where top women can actually compete with the top men.


Women can compete to a large degree, but don't they still have separate divisions because there is an element of strength/stamina in holding and delivering the ball where males have the advantage?


They still have 2 separate professional leagues, because none of the governing bodies can get their shit together...a few years back, they had some of the Major tournaments at the pro level...

Kelly Kulick Becomes First Woman to win PBA title

At the local level, some of the more competitive leagues I've been in are integrated, and some of the women's averages put a lot of guys to shame.

There is still a USBC Women's tournament (coming to Addison next year), but the USBC Open Championships are open to all bowlers...and the only real divisions are based on average.

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Make a transgender category at the state meet. Problem solved.


I don't follow all these stories all that closely but it's unclear to me why it's not this simple.

Because too many people don't realize their actual value - or lack thereof - and there'll be hell to pay if everyone doesn't kowtow to their every frog-fuck crazy demand on how they should be put over ... like if Lord Littlebrook kept lobbying with the office to have him in a program where he ends up pinning King Kong Bundy clean.

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I guess there's a collison at this particular intersection.

Will the women filing the lawsuit be accused of being transphobic?


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It will certainly be framed as transphobic, and it likely already is being pushed out as the narrative.

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I'm all for tranny rights...but that ends with competitive athletics. That's just stupid.

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Maybe we should just sic the little league ahole parents on the trans athletes' parents and lawers.

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Gotta love watching those chickens come home to roost.

Betcha these dumb bitches were waving pride flags all around and we're just loving the "movement" on Facebook and Twitter during the month of June!


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I think the board is in agreement here.

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I think the board is in agreement here.


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Women cannot compete with men unless they are on steroids. It will be interesting to see if women's sports will stand up against this or give in. If they give in how long before average male athletes identify as women to get free college scholarships?

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Hell has frozen over, apparently.

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Those transgender kids' parents & their lawers ought to be ashamed of themselves. But they won't be.


Sadly, it's what they feel they "deserve". And you're right...in the long run, the co-ed integration of most sports is going to negatively effect female athletes...to the point that one of two things happens...either governing bodies implement required quotas of each gender of athlete per team (like co-ed softball), or the women turn on the L:MRBAUNFGLKANJ+ people they want to support otherwise because they're now getting screwed.

Oddly enough, my main "athletic" activity, bowling, is one of the few games where top women can actually compete with the top men.



holy christ, look at sjboyd giving elaborate answers to topics about trannies (when he should just be whisking them away), yet he is full of dumb "your mom" insults.

What a dilapitated mind.

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Those transgender kids' parents & their lawers ought to be ashamed of themselves. But they won't be.


Sadly, it's what they feel they "deserve". And you're right...in the long run, the co-ed integration of most sports is going to negatively effect female athletes...to the point that one of two things happens...either governing bodies implement required quotas of each gender of athlete per team (like co-ed softball), or the women turn on the L:MRBAUNFGLKANJ+ people they want to support otherwise because they're now getting screwed.

Oddly enough, my main "athletic" activity, bowling, is one of the few games where top women can actually compete with the top men.



holy christ, look at sjboyd giving elaborate answers to topics about trannies (when he should just be whisking them away), yet he is full of dumb "your mom" insults.

What a dilapitated mind.


Dude!

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