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.250 and 35% K rate in AAA is no Gouda. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news


he evens that out with big obp and slugging

He's certainly not a perfect player but plexiglass blocks are erected to honor players on some teams with the characteristics described above


I look at it this way. The guy he is replacing isn't hitting his weight and is a terrible catcher and Collins is a left handed bat which balances the line-up a bit. Never know about a kid coming into the bigs.

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.250 and 35% K rate in AAA is no Gouda. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news


he evens that out with big obp and slugging

He's certainly not a perfect player but plexiglass blocks are erected to honor players on some teams with the characteristics described above


I look at it this way. The guy he is replacing isn't hitting his weight and is a terrible catcher and Collins is a left handed bat which balances the line-up a bit. Never know about a kid coming into the bigs.

Here's the problem. Not getting everyday ABs won't exactly help his ALARMING K rate. MLB pitchers WILL be throwing him strikes so he better be swinging early and often.


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Fuck it. Sox are going to beat this clown show team that place up north. 2 game mini sweep!

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Nardi wrote:
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.250 and 35% K rate in AAA is no Gouda. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news


he evens that out with big obp and slugging

He's certainly not a perfect player but plexiglass blocks are erected to honor players on some teams with the characteristics described above


I look at it this way. The guy he is replacing isn't hitting his weight and is a terrible catcher and Collins is a left handed bat which balances the line-up a bit. Never know about a kid coming into the bigs.

Here's the problem. Not getting everyday ABs won't exactly help his ALARMING K rate. MLB pitchers WILL be throwing him strikes so he better be swinging early and often.


You never know about kids coming up. Sometimes hitters do better against better pitching in the big leagues because the pitchers are around the plate more. He has done nothing in the minors to say whether or not he will make it. We will see. He does have very good power and apparently knows how to take a pitch. And again. He has the future in front of him while Castillo is DONE.

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I like Collins as a bat. I think you have me mislabeled as some kind of anti Sox troll. I'm objective. Collins at 1B is the better move for 2020 and beyond.

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Like him more than Alonso. Abreu isn’t going anywhere.

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I like the balance that he has at the plate. He will hit quite a few home-runs before he's through. I'd probably hit him 7th in the line-up right now or maybe 8th.

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Like him more than Alonso. Abreu isn’t going anywhere.

This will be an interesting test for management. Traditionally I'd wager abreau enters free agency and the Sox get outbid but they seem to want to build something here.

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Nardi wrote:
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.250 and 35% K rate in AAA is no Gouda. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news


he evens that out with big obp and slugging

He's certainly not a perfect player but plexiglass blocks are erected to honor players on some teams with the characteristics described above


I look at it this way. The guy he is replacing isn't hitting his weight and is a terrible catcher and Collins is a left handed bat which balances the line-up a bit. Never know about a kid coming into the bigs.

Here's the problem. Not getting everyday ABs won't exactly help his ALARMING K rate. MLB pitchers WILL be throwing him strikes so he better be swinging early and often.


He'll get plenty of ABs to show what he can and can't do. The two guys in there before him stunk up the place and had plenty of ABs .

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Basically he is Schwarber, but won't be playing the outfield.


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Like him more than Alonso. Abreu isn’t going anywhere.

This will be an interesting test for management. Traditionally I'd wager abreau enters free agency and the Sox get outbid but they seem to want to build something here.

I think they’ll pay what it takes to resign him. It’s one of the few moves Kenny/Hahn got right through the decade of failure and I think they want him to retire with the team

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AJ Reed is the replacement.

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Palka got his second chance and failed. Did they bring anyone back up after he got sent down? I still hold out hope for Mendrick getting his chance. The guy can play just about every position there is defensively and do a decent job at most of them.

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Like him more than Alonso. Abreu isn’t going anywhere.

This will be an interesting test for management. Traditionally I'd wager abreau enters free agency and the Sox get outbid but they seem to want to build something here.

I think they’ll pay what it takes to resign him. It’s one of the few moves Kenny/Hahn got right through the decade of failure and I think they want him to retire with the team

yes, they'll resign him....do not underestimate the loyalty pattern here. They'll keep re-signing him for as long as he wants to play baseball.

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The Yankees were hardcore recruiting him the past couple of days. He wants to be a White Sox for life until he sees that Yankees offer this winter.

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The Yankees were hardcore recruiting him the past couple of days. He wants to be a White Sox for life until he sees that Yankees offer this winter.

It would be cool if he got a massive Yankees contract.

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Yes, it would. Three birds with one stone.

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Yes, it would. Three birds with one stone.

He has been huge in the rebuild. He deserves a big payday.

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Yes, it would. Three birds with one stone.

He has been huge in the rebuild. He deserves a big payday.

It isn't uncommon for players to be paid for past performance. And he was a very good player, essentially neck and neck with Anthony Rizzo for a couple seasons. The Yankees would love to have a solid 1B/DH next season and beyond, and Abreu would really appreciate the heavy Cuban community found in and around NYC.

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Yes, it would. Three birds with one stone.

He has been huge in the rebuild. He deserves a big payday.

It isn't uncommon for players to be paid for past performance. And he was a very good player, essentially neck and neck with Anthony Rizzo for a couple seasons. The Yankees would love to have a solid 1B/DH next season and beyond, and Abreu would really appreciate the heavy Cuban community found in and around NYC.

Then they'll trade for him before Aug 1. Is that your prediction? If not, the theory kinds falls apart seeing as how the Yankees are in a win now mode and Abreu will be 9 months further along in his disgusting decline by next April.


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Yes, it would. Three birds with one stone.

He has been huge in the rebuild. He deserves a big payday.

It isn't uncommon for players to be paid for past performance. And he was a very good player, essentially neck and neck with Anthony Rizzo for a couple seasons. The Yankees would love to have a solid 1B/DH next season and beyond, and Abreu would really appreciate the heavy Cuban community found in and around NYC.

Then they'll trade for him before Aug 1. Is that your prediction? If not, the theory kinds falls apart seeing as how the Yankees are in a win now mode and Abreu will be 9 months further along in his disgusting decline by next April.

They traded for Edwin Encarnacion. I'm not sure what kind of dead money they want to take on in 2019 in order to cast him off and bring in his replacement midseason.

Next season they are much more likely equipped to go with a combination of Voit and Abreu at 1B and DH, with a little bit of LaMahieu mixed in to the 1B role as well. The Yankees ideally would want to sit Voit against lefties.

I am also not sure if the White Sox want to trade Abreu, because that lessens his chances that he resigns with Chicago. I believe the White Sox want to keep him. I think that is the wrong decision, but the White Sox have always tried to keep members of the organization for too long.

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Yes, it would. Three birds with one stone.

He has been huge in the rebuild. He deserves a big payday.

It isn't uncommon for players to be paid for past performance. And he was a very good player, essentially neck and neck with Anthony Rizzo for a couple seasons. The Yankees would love to have a solid 1B/DH next season and beyond, and Abreu would really appreciate the heavy Cuban community found in and around NYC.

Then they'll trade for him before Aug 1. Is that your prediction? If not, the theory kinds falls apart seeing as how the Yankees are in a win now mode and Abreu will be 9 months further along in his disgusting decline by next April.

They traded for Edwin Encarnacion. I'm not sure what kind of dead money they want to take on in 2019 in order to cast him off and bring in his replacement midseason.

Next season they are much more likely equipped to go with a combination of Voit and Abreu at 1B and DH, with a little bit of LaMahieu mixed in to the 1B role as well. The Yankees ideally would want to sit Voit against lefties.

I am also not sure if the White Sox want to trade Abreu, because that lessens his chances that he resigns with Chicago. I believe the White Sox want to keep him. I think that is the wrong decision, but the White Sox have always tried to keep members of the organization for too long.

Wait.Wut?? I thought the Yankees were "hard core recruiting him". What's more hardcore than trading for him?


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Nardi wrote:
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Yes, it would. Three birds with one stone.

He has been huge in the rebuild. He deserves a big payday.

It isn't uncommon for players to be paid for past performance. And he was a very good player, essentially neck and neck with Anthony Rizzo for a couple seasons. The Yankees would love to have a solid 1B/DH next season and beyond, and Abreu would really appreciate the heavy Cuban community found in and around NYC.

Then they'll trade for him before Aug 1. Is that your prediction? If not, the theory kinds falls apart seeing as how the Yankees are in a win now mode and Abreu will be 9 months further along in his disgusting decline by next April.

They traded for Edwin Encarnacion. I'm not sure what kind of dead money they want to take on in 2019 in order to cast him off and bring in his replacement midseason.

Next season they are much more likely equipped to go with a combination of Voit and Abreu at 1B and DH, with a little bit of LaMahieu mixed in to the 1B role as well. The Yankees ideally would want to sit Voit against lefties.

I am also not sure if the White Sox want to trade Abreu, because that lessens his chances that he resigns with Chicago. I believe the White Sox want to keep him. I think that is the wrong decision, but the White Sox have always tried to keep members of the organization for too long.

Wait.Wut?? I thought the Yankees were "hard core recruiting him". What's more hardcore than trading for him?

Takes two to tango, and they already have 2 1B in 2019. Carrying 3 1B seems...a bit much.

But I can almost guarantee they've already inquired with Hahn.

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Takes two to tango, and they already have 2 1B in 2019. Carrying 3 1B seems...a bit much.

But I can almost guarantee they've already inquired with Hahn.

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Say what you want...we all saw him hanging with all the Yankees at the ASG and what the Yankees players were saying in interviews. You know Aroldis was pushing the Cuban NY angle.

Why trade assets when you don't have to? The Yankees remember their own Aroldis Chapman trade. Why risk it when the position is filled in 2019?

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Say what you want...we all saw him hanging with all the Yankees at the ASG and what the Yankees players were saying in interviews. You know Aroldis was pushing the Cuban NY angle.

Why trade assets when you don't have to? The Yankees remember their own Aroldis Chapman trade. Why risk it when the position is filled in 2019?


Why? You said it yourself. Hard recruitment. Why waste valuable regression? He may well drop to .750 OPS by this time next year. And like Jesus Theo says, "each and every year is precious." Go for the gold, go for it now while you're so very, very close.


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Again, I believe they have made overtures to obtain Abreu already and they will again before July 31. But it is stupid to overpay for a guy that will simply cost money in 4 months. The Yankees aren't exactly missing a beat without him.

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Again, I believe they have made overtures to obtain Abreu already and they will again before July 31. But it is stupid to overpay for a guy that will simply cost money in 4 months. The Yankees aren't exactly missing a beat without him.

Abreu ain't going anywhere. I only WISH the Yankees were hard recruiting. I only WISH the Yankees would offer a top prospect. And Abreu only WISHES the Yankees would offer him 3 years this off season.

I think we can put this hard recruiting to bed. All Abreu is hoping for is not being the next Moustakas.


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