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Nardi

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:35 pm

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long time guy wrote:

Nardi wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Big Chicagoan wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Bulls best chance to get a star player is to draft him.

Bulls are incapable of drafting a star player. There best chance to get one is to trade for one who has a contract most teams don't want.

Trading for guys with terrible contracts is a terrible idea. The worst thing that they could do is settle for someone else's junk. Thats what led to the Otto trade

Brooklyn didn't mind grabbing 3 terrible contracts.

I'm a Westbrook fan. He's tough, efficient, passionate. But hard pass on acquiring him. He will not age well.

Kyrie Irving isn't a terrible contract and neither is Jordan. The only one that may be might be Durant.

Westbrook is a different case all together. If he is that great then he should at least be able to get out of the first round of the playoffs. Particularly when his is considered to be the more talented team going in.

The 2nd part of this also relates to playoffs. Last we saw of Westbrook he was getting destroyed by Damian Lillard. I know there are guys that pooh pooh that sort of thing but it matters. Particularly in the playoffs. If you are that guy then you have to be able to hold your own. Westbrook hasn't in the past 2 playoffs he has been involved in.

Agreed that Westbrook is a 31 yr old many miled PG. Hard pass. As far as Brooklyn, time will be the truth teller. IMO, they have a 2 year window and then it's a shitshow. So good luck to them.

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Big Chicagoan

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:39 pm

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He would dominate the East.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:52 pm

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Big Chicagoan wrote:

He would dominate the East.

No chance. He’d be the same guy.

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:46 am

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Not over yet.

Yes it is.

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When this is all over, which is not going to be for a while, Trump will be re-elected President.

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:43 am

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conns7901 wrote:

Not over yet.

Yes it is.

CDOM wrote:

When this is all over, which is not going to be for a while, Trump will be re-elected President.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:54 am

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conns7901 wrote:

Poor Brooklyn. $40 mil for a year of nothing, then 3 more at $40 for a broken down war horse.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:09 pm

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Nardi wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Poor Brooklyn. $40 mil for a year of nothing, then 3 more at $40 for a broken down war horse.

Yeah that's gonna be brutal most likely. I understand why they felt they had to do it but when Rudy Gay averaging 14 and 7 is the closest thing in NBA history to a successful recovery from an Achilles that is way too risky for my taste.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:12 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Poor Brooklyn. $40 mil for a year of nothing, then 3 more at $40 for a broken down war horse.

Don't get me wrong. Durant is a great player and I wish him a full and solid recovery. But....

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:16 pm

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Nardi wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Poor Brooklyn. $40 mil for a year of nothing, then 3 more at $40 for a broken down war horse.

Don't get me wrong. Durant is a great player and I wish him a full and solid recovery. But....

But it’s tough to bet on something that’s literally never happened in the history of the league before.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:20 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Poor Brooklyn. $40 mil for a year of nothing, then 3 more at $40 for a broken down war horse.

Don't get me wrong. Durant is a great player and I wish him a full and solid recovery. But....

But it’s tough to bet on something that’s literally never happened in the history of the league before.

Especially if you compare it to the lowball contracts that Boogie has signed after having the exact same injury. He is 2 years younger than Durant (though quite a bit heavier and a lesser player) yet he has to show and prove that he can return whereas there appears to be near certainty regarding Durant.

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ZephMarshack

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:26 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nardi wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Poor Brooklyn. $40 mil for a year of nothing, then 3 more at $40 for a broken down war horse.

Don't forget Nique.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:28 pm

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Damn that's right I always forget about him when this comes up. Maybe there's hope

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Zippy-The-Pinhead

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:04 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Damn that's right I always forget about him when this comes up. Maybe there's hope

To Zeph's point...
Wilkins returned the following season and averaged 29.9 points to go along with 6.8 rebounds and 3.2 assists per game. He went on to make two more All-Star teams and two more All-NBA Teams - the All-NBA Second Team in 1992-93 and the All-NBA Third Team in 1993-94.

To FF's point...that is really the only good example.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:59 am

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Kyrie's contract has some strange incentives in them. No way he maximizes all of them. Maybe half.

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/kyrie-irving ... ee-agency/

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:50 pm

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long time guy wrote:

Kyrie's contract has some strange incentives in them. No way he maximizes all of them. Maybe half.

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/kyrie-irving ... ee-agency/

Is not talking to the press one of them?

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:55 pm

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Nardi wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Kyrie's contract has some strange incentives in them. No way he maximizes all of them. Maybe half.

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/kyrie-irving ... ee-agency/

Is not talking to the press one of them?

Or his teammates :lol:

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Hussra

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:59 pm

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Durant gonna end up suing the Warriors.

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Big Chicagoan

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:01 pm

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Hussra wrote:

Durant gonna end up suing the Warriors.

For what? Still got a max contract.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:03 pm

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Nardi wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Kyrie's contract has some strange incentives in them. No way he maximizes all of them. Maybe half.

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/kyrie-irving ... ee-agency/

Is not talking to the press one of them?

He actually talks to the press a little too much for my taste. Shut the hell and hoop.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:30 pm

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:30 pm

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Westbrook to the Rockets for Chris paul and draft picks :shock:

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Peoria Matt

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:30 pm

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Westbrook to Houston for Chris Paul and picks mixed in

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:32 pm

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Hey, did you hear about Westbook?

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:36 pm

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Don't know how that one will work.

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ZephMarshack

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:38 pm

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For all the talk of Daryl Morey being some genius analytics guru, he strikes me as someone putting little more thought into his moves than a fan playing with the ESPN trade machine and this trade is the latest example.

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Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:40 pm

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

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Jbi11s

Post subject: Re: 2019 NBA OffSeason

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:23 pm