Oh no, our 6th round rookie RB might not be great! Troll better

And your first rounder will probably be a bust too.

I think they raised the average of the talent level thoughout the off season but didn't acquire any top line talent. I borrow from what I've read at other places in saying that they got themselves Pernell McPhee and Lamar Houston types, good players and solid starters but ones who you are fooling yourself into thinking are difference makers.

Oh no, our 6th round rookie RB might not be great! Troll better

FF -

Check this draft nerd's analysis on Packers draft.

Still don't like Gary pick but he at least explains why the Packers grabbed him. Makes a lot more sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v3jh4c0oVE

regarding the Bears not getting value "Damien Harris was a higher graded running back than Montgomery"

sure, that may be his personal analysis, but he would be hard pressed to find ANY other person with the same opinion, and it apparently wasn't held by the professionals who picked several backs before Damien Harris

Why does he love the Gary pick? Because he mocked Gary to them. He essentially is repeating what I said about him providing qb pressures rather than sacks.

regarding the Bears not getting value "Damien Harris was a higher graded running back than Montgomery"

sure, that may be his personal analysis, but he would be hard pressed to find ANY other person with the same opinion, and it apparently wasn't held by the professionals who picked several backs before Damien Harris

Why does he love the Gary pick? Because he mocked Gary to them. He essentially is repeating what I said about him providing qb pressures rather than sacks.

He spent literally 5 minutes explaining why he loves the Gary pick. Gary provides positional versatility which is vital for Pettine's system. Hence why he mocked him to the Packers.

You're missing the forest for the trees with the Bears critique. The issue was not Harris versus Montgomery but Harris AND 4th round pick for Montgomery. And even then his main critique was the use of a 3rd round pick for a RB when more pressing holes existed. The selection should've been used to supply a position where the Bears will quickly be looking for help.


It's just a philosophical difference in opinion. Whereas Pace and yourself see a valuable draft because if fills short-term immediate holes right now to maximize the next 1-2 years, the analyst would've preferred a draft meant to sustain success for 3-4 years.

QB pressures are not important as sacks, but they are important.

Anyway, I still hate the Gary pick but maybe he will work out fine. Gives me a Jamal Reynolds vibe though. Rest of the draft was aces.

No, you are missing his issue. He criticized the Bears pick not for the players but for lost value at each spot. The reason, he said, they lost value on the Montgomery pick is because they traded up to take a player who HE THINKS is a lower rated back than the one the team they traded up with took at 87. The problem is that no one, and I have looked at a lot of mocks, rated Damien Harris ahead of Montgomery.

His Gary love boiled down to the amorphous "opponents plays he fucks up" category. I'll wait to see that quantified before I start valuing it. I promise you the Packers took him with the intent to sack the QB.

By far Pace's best skill is finding elite talent in the middle rounds. His propensity to throw those picks away by unnecessarily trading up every year would annoy me if I were a Bear fan.

Is it a skill or is it good fortune? Remember when Seattle kept trading their 1st round picks to acquire talent (Harvin, Graham) or out of the 1st round and rationalized it by saying they were proficient at drafting mid-round talent (Sherman, Chancellor, Wilson, etc)

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Kirkwood was smart to bail on Green Bay and hop on the Browns wagon, you should follow his path FF.. Packers future is bleak. Get on that big brown train.

This post is gonna age very poorly. Looking forward to week 1.

Browns General Manager John Dorsey was drafted by the Packers and spent his entire five-year NFL playing career in Green Bay. He then worked in Green Bay for more than 20 years in his post-playing career. So he knows about the loyal Packers fan base.

But Dorsey says that from his year and a half in Cleveland, he knows the Browns have an even better fan base.

“The fan base for the Cleveland Browns is more passionate than Green Bay Packers fans,” Dorsey told WKYC.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Get on that big brown train.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

LeFleur tears achilles. Out for season.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

getting optimistic about the defense. Zadarius is a monster out there every day

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There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

One step forward, two steps back; https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers- ... 34935.html

“I don’t think doing live special teams drills is very smart,” Rodgers said. “I think the [NFL]PA is going to look at that, for sure. The kickoff especially is one of the most dangerous plays in football, and that’s why they’ve tweaked different things over the years. Close to a live kickoff drill I don’t think is best use of a [joint] practice.”

Well, it’s LaFleur who decided to have joint practices, and it’s LaFleur who decided to permit “close to a live kickoff drill” that “for sure” the NFL Players Association will look at. And it’s Rodgers who decided to call out his team and his coach for doing it.

Rodgers continues to be the most powerful employee in the organization, and he’s showing everyone who wears the championship belt. They’ll let him gloat for now. The moment he shows real signs of slippage, however, the Packers will cut the cord and Rodgers will be playing for another team — just like his predecessor in Green Bay.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.