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Infrastructural projects were used to segregate New York as well. The Dan Ryan is where it is for a reason.


Learn something new everyday.

The underpasses of the parkways that run through Long Island were built with unusually low clearances so that buses couldn't take poor (read: black) people to Jones Beach or other points east.

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Infrastructural projects were used to segregate New York as well. The Dan Ryan is where it is for a reason.


Learn something new everyday.

The underpasses of the parkways that run through Long Island were built with unusually low clearances so that buses couldn't take poor (read: black) people to Jones Beach or other points east.

Oh Robert Moses...

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US Unemployment down to UNDER 4.0% Real income up about 2.5% for year end July 31, 2018.

Meanwhile those dumbasses at CNN and MSNBC cannot even have the decency to cover the return of Korean War soldiers because is just might give Trump some credit for their return. As a veteran whose uncle fought and bled in Korea, I appreciate it that some of the guys he fought with are returning to their homeland.

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Thanks Obama!

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Thanks Obama!



Obama didn't give a shit about the families of Korean veterans wanting their relatives coming home. Obama was the most uncaring POS president ever when it came to veteran's issues. Hell, that asshole actually wanting the US to bow to other countries and their leaders. He led an apology tour to heads of state in virtually ever country in the world.

The biggest soldier hating, cop hating, radical Islamic loving POS ever in the White House.

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 Post subject: Re: Clearing the Air
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This is too good to pass up. In this thread, I will be arguing with WFR not as myself, but as his chosen candidate Bernie Sanders using his official website.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

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Redlining is the past. Incarceration rate has several other factors than race that need to be accounted for. Hiring rates among qualified candidates? Again that's something that has a ton of factors involved, and I do not think there has been a proper study. I don't believe for a second well qualified blacks are being passed over. Why do you?
Poverty rates? There are a ton of other factors involved in that including levels of education.

"Today, black men are sentenced to 19% more jail time for committing the exact same crime as white men, and African Americans are jailed at more than five times the rate of whites."
"Today redlining prevents businesses owned by people of color from getting loans, and predatory lending results in higher interest rates in low-income communities of color. More than 47% of African Americans are unbanked or underbanked and some 43% of Hispanic families are unbanked or underbanked, whereas 18% of whites are unbanked or underbanked. The massive disparities and discrimination in the availability of financial services must end."
"Systemic inequities have created innumerable disparities across racial groups from health outcomes, to health insurance rates, education outcomes, college debt rates, and police violence. Bernie is running for president because he believes we’re obligated to do more than just acknowledge the problem. He believes in implementing policies that aim to achieve substantive equality now—while the generations alive today can benefit. In a country that is genuinely free, neither one’s zip code nor the color of their skin would determine a child’s life outcome. Bernie believes our country is morally bound to close the racial wealth divide."


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Why do you want it to be racism as the answer to all of these problems? Doesn't that seem too simply and frankly dangerous? It's saying don't bother to try because the system is out to get you. To me that's nihilism.

"Whether it is a broken criminal justice system, or massive disparities in the availability of financial services, or health disparities, or environmental disparities, or educational disparities, our job is to—and we will—create a nation in which all people are treated equally. That is what we must do, and that is what we will do."
"Systemic inequities have created innumerable disparities across racial groups from health outcomes, to health insurance rates, education outcomes, college debt rates, and police violence. Bernie is running for president because he believes we’re obligated to do more than just acknowledge the problem. He believes in implementing policies that aim to achieve substantive equality now—while the generations alive today can benefit."

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Asians are out competing the white majority by excelling in academic pursuits. I bet if blacks had a similar scholastic performance they would be having similar academic outcomes. If you want to tell me that blacks can't do that because of racism, then I ask what laws do you want to change to fix that?
"Make sure every kid, regardless of race or class, receives a quality education."
"Guarantee a job to every American. A job guarantee will create good-paying jobs and will create work building much needed infrastructure and providing critical services to communities across the country."

Thanks for your vote!
Signed,
Bernie Sanders

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 Post subject: Re: Clearing the Air
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That's outstanding! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Clearing the Air
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This was actually a good discussion. I can say that I learned quite a bit and I saw some people offer some pretty interesting arguments. It's also good to unleash frustration, as long as you revisit it. (I think.)


Yep!

I thought about that as I was writing, but I'm on a phone and the only other verb I could think of was "unsheathe," and the last time I unsheathed something, I got into trouble.


Missed this gem before. :lol: :lol:

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This is too good to pass up. In this thread, I will be arguing with WFR not as myself, but as his chosen candidate Bernie Sanders using his official website.


WFR is a Yang guy if he's for a Democrat at all, though.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This is too good to pass up. In this thread, I will be arguing with WFR not as myself, but as his chosen candidate Bernie Sanders using his official website.


WFR is a Yang guy if he's for a Democrat at all, though.
I can't make a post about Bernie without him getting on me about it.

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What does "underbanked" mean?

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America sure has some good Bears thoughts

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 Post subject: Re: Clearing the Air
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This is too good to pass up. In this thread, I will be arguing with WFR not as myself, but as his chosen candidate Bernie Sanders using his official website.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Redlining is the past. Incarceration rate has several other factors than race that need to be accounted for. Hiring rates among qualified candidates? Again that's something that has a ton of factors involved, and I do not think there has been a proper study. I don't believe for a second well qualified blacks are being passed over. Why do you?
Poverty rates? There are a ton of other factors involved in that including levels of education.

"Today, black men are sentenced to 19% more jail time for committing the exact same crime as white men, and African Americans are jailed at more than five times the rate of whites."
"Today redlining prevents businesses owned by people of color from getting loans, and predatory lending results in higher interest rates in low-income communities of color. More than 47% of African Americans are unbanked or underbanked and some 43% of Hispanic families are unbanked or underbanked, whereas 18% of whites are unbanked or underbanked. The massive disparities and discrimination in the availability of financial services must end."
"Systemic inequities have created innumerable disparities across racial groups from health outcomes, to health insurance rates, education outcomes, college debt rates, and police violence. Bernie is running for president because he believes we’re obligated to do more than just acknowledge the problem. He believes in implementing policies that aim to achieve substantive equality now—while the generations alive today can benefit. In a country that is genuinely free, neither one’s zip code nor the color of their skin would determine a child’s life outcome. Bernie believes our country is morally bound to close the racial wealth divide."


WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Why do you want it to be racism as the answer to all of these problems? Doesn't that seem too simply and frankly dangerous? It's saying don't bother to try because the system is out to get you. To me that's nihilism.

"Whether it is a broken criminal justice system, or massive disparities in the availability of financial services, or health disparities, or environmental disparities, or educational disparities, our job is to—and we will—create a nation in which all people are treated equally. That is what we must do, and that is what we will do."
"Systemic inequities have created innumerable disparities across racial groups from health outcomes, to health insurance rates, education outcomes, college debt rates, and police violence. Bernie is running for president because he believes we’re obligated to do more than just acknowledge the problem. He believes in implementing policies that aim to achieve substantive equality now—while the generations alive today can benefit."

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Asians are out competing the white majority by excelling in academic pursuits. I bet if blacks had a similar scholastic performance they would be having similar academic outcomes. If you want to tell me that blacks can't do that because of racism, then I ask what laws do you want to change to fix that?
"Make sure every kid, regardless of race or class, receives a quality education."
"Guarantee a job to every American. A job guarantee will create good-paying jobs and will create work building much needed infrastructure and providing critical services to communities across the country."

Thanks for your vote!
Signed,
Bernie Sanders



Seems like someone is really upset they got called on supporting Trump. It would seem that if, like Rick, you think racism is such a problem in the United States then you would vote for Sanders over Trump.

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Wow. I didn't expect you to have no response at all.

Instead, you brought up something I already answered to you earlier in the day.

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 Post subject: Re: Clearing the Air
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Wow. I didn't expect you to have no response at all.

Instead, you brought up something I already answered to you earlier in the day.


You got into it with Jorr, CH and TM over Bernie. Yet, I was the only one you dragged up a year old thread about and complained about.

If you really think racism is a problem then it would seem Bernie is a better candidate than Trump. You don't seem to think that though. Hmm.

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You got into it with Jorr, CH and TM over Bernie. Yet, I was the only one you dragged up a year old thread about and complained about.
Well, CH and TM make perfect sense for liking Bernie. JORR to some degree. You make no sense at all. Though, when I read that through and saw Bernie specifically mentioned redlining it reminded me of your post in here and I searched it out and then I had to make an example of why you and Bernie aren't exactly on the same page.

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If you really think racism is a problem then it would seem Bernie is a better candidate than Trump. You don't seem to think that though. Hmm.
Once again, I gave you an explanation for this earlier in the day which you didn't respond to. Go find it as I am not going to retype it in this thread simply because you don't have a good answer to Bernie completely contradicting your entire thought process here.

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The person who always requests links of past conversations, and drags up year old threads is upset about having to repeat his post from earlier in the day?

I had this discussion more than a year ago, and you dragged it up, while without feeling the need to do so concerning discussions from today with 4 other posters regarding Bernie Sanders. If you are interested in the discussion you can read what I wrote a year a go then. Until then get your MAGA hat on you complete fraud.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
The person who always requests links of past conversations, and drags up year old threads is upset about having to repeat his post from earlier in the day?
Yes.

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I had this discussion more than a year ago, and you dragged it up, while without feeling the need to do so concerning discussions from today with 4 other posters regarding Bernie Sanders. If you are interested in the discussion you can read what I wrote a year a go then. Until then get your MAGA hat on you complete fraud.
Fair enough. I no longer expect any sort of response to what I posted.

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