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THe guy who sucks is Renteria. Jose hit twice and not one Brave goes down. And in a game where pitchers hit? Gutless shit. I hate this manager for not standing up for his star. Fuck him and fuck OSICH. That bearded fuck who hit Jose should have been nailed in the 6th inning.
The Sox starting pitcher couldnt make it our of the 1st inning and you blame the MGR?

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The Hawk wrote:
THe guy who sucks is Renteria. Jose hit twice and not one Brave goes down. And in a game where pitchers hit? Gutless shit. I hate this manager for not standing up for his star. Fuck him and fuck OSICH. That bearded fuck who hit Jose should have been nailed in the 6th inning.
The Sox starting pitcher couldnt make it our of the 1st inning and you blame the MGR?

Choke on a pube milkshake.


What the hell is the matter with you? That is about as infantile as it gets. Renteria should have pulled the pitcher , Osich, who failed to nail the first batter up and chewed his ass. The Sox were pussies in that game and Abreu has a very sore bleeping arm that was uncalled for. Renteria lost the respect of the team in that game. No doubt about it.

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THe guy who sucks is Renteria. Jose hit twice and not one Brave goes down. And in a game where pitchers hit? Gutless shit. I hate this manager for not standing up for his star. Fuck him and fuck OSICH. That bearded fuck who hit Jose should have been nailed in the 6th inning.
The Sox starting pitcher couldnt make it our of the 1st inning and you blame the MGR?

Choke on a pube milkshake.


What the hell is the matter with you? That is about as infantile as it gets. Renteria should have pulled the pitcher , Osich, who failed to nail the first batter up and chewed his ass. The Sox were pussies in that game and Abreu has a very sore bleeping arm that was uncalled for. Renteria lost the respect of the team in that game. No doubt about it.

Players pay attention to stuff like this, despite what the latest sensibilities fandom has. A manager is supposed to have his player's back. That being said, my inclination is Abreu had a word with his manager to forget about it.


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Nardi wrote:
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The Hawk wrote:
THe guy who sucks is Renteria. Jose hit twice and not one Brave goes down. And in a game where pitchers hit? Gutless shit. I hate this manager for not standing up for his star. Fuck him and fuck OSICH. That bearded fuck who hit Jose should have been nailed in the 6th inning.
The Sox starting pitcher couldnt make it our of the 1st inning and you blame the MGR?

Choke on a pube milkshake.


What the hell is the matter with you? That is about as infantile as it gets. Renteria should have pulled the pitcher , Osich, who failed to nail the first batter up and chewed his ass. The Sox were pussies in that game and Abreu has a very sore bleeping arm that was uncalled for. Renteria lost the respect of the team in that game. No doubt about it.

Players pay attention to stuff like this, despite what the latest sensibilities fandom has. A manager is supposed to have his player's back. That being said, my inclination is Abreu had a word with his manager to forget about it.


I doubt that Abreu said anything. And it wasn't Abreu's call. It was up to the pitcher to nail someone and if he didn't Renteria should have chewed his ass and taken him out of the damned game. It was a weak-assed show by the Sox all around.

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Wow. Have a day. 109 pitch complete game, only gave up 1 hit.

Do this like 22 times next year dude!

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We need this Lopez and whatever Giolito was doing in the 1st half of the season more often

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up and down performances, just as you would expect from a young pitcher

There has been more than enough great to think he can cut it as an MLB starter. Next step is consistency.

This is why they won't win next year. Cease and Kopech will both be rookies. I am looking for Giolito and Lopez to have full seasons, which isn't too much of an over projection. Get a premium starter and a lesser one for next year. 2021 is the year.

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Wow. Have a day. 109 pitch complete game, only gave up 1 hit.

Do this like 22 times next year dude!


I would argue that he has the best stuff on the staff. He just hasn't learned how to control it.

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Nas wrote:
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Wow. Have a day. 109 pitch complete game, only gave up 1 hit.

Do this like 22 times next year dude!


I would argue that he has the best stuff on the staff. He just hasn't learned how to control it.

and consistently pitch his way out of trouble


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This guy has some great stuff, but he needs to take a big leap forward next season.

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This guy has some great stuff, but he needs to take a big leap forward next season.

It's time for a new voice of pitching instruction. Not that Coop is responsible for a 5-1/2 ERA, but I would guess the White Sox are behind the times in the area of lab work and analysis.


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Yeah just clean house.

Probably not next year though.

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Nardi wrote:
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This guy has some great stuff, but he needs to take a big leap forward next season.

It's time for a new voice of pitching instruction. Not that Coop is responsible for a 5-1/2 ERA, but I would guess the White Sox are behind the times in the area of lab work and analysis.


Not a person on this board knows what is taking place behind the scenes. Cooper has a very good reputation as a pitching coach based on what I have heard from other team broadcasters. I think that what Lopez is doing is OJT. So is Cease. Actually you can say the same about Giolito. He is far from a finished product.

I'll say this. Watching this game today just showed me how ridiculous the current baseball that they are using is. At least four of the home runs hit in this game would have been fly ball outs 4-5 years ago. As for the pitchers trying to throw a ball with no raised seams, its all fast balls and change-ups that they can throw over the plate. Very few curves and sliders are being thrown for strikes or get the center of the plate and get hammered. Its ridiculous to see.

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The Hawk wrote:
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This guy has some great stuff, but he needs to take a big leap forward next season.

It's time for a new voice of pitching instruction. Not that Coop is responsible for a 5-1/2 ERA, but I would guess the White Sox are behind the times in the area of lab work and analysis.


Not a person on this board knows what is taking place behind the scenes. Cooper has a very good reputation as a pitching coach based on what I have heard from other team broadcasters. I think that what Lopez is doing is OJT. So is Cease. Actually you can say the same about Giolito. He is far from a finished product.

I'll say this. Watching this game today just showed me how ridiculous the current baseball that they are using is. At least four of the home runs hit in this game would have been fly ball outs 4-5 years ago. As for the pitchers trying to throw a ball with no raised seams, its all fast balls and change-ups that they can throw over the plate. Very few curves and sliders are being thrown for strikes or get the center of the plate and get hammered. Its ridiculous to see.

Correct. That's why smart teams know every detail of every pitch. To compensate as best they can.


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This guy is a head case. What a waste.

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This guy is a head case. What a waste.

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This guy is a head case. What a waste.

Yes, terrible trade.

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Wow. Have a day. 109 pitch complete game, only gave up 1 hit.

Do this like 22 times next year dude!


I would argue that he has the best stuff on the staff. He just hasn't learned how to control it.

and consistently pitch his way out of trouble

This was a perceptive comment.


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says he was hurt. I guess I have to believe him. There are a few kids on my team who instinctively grab at their arm when they start to get hit hard.

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He wasn't hurt enough to get the first two batters out in fairly short order.

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He wasn't hurt enough to get the first two batters out in fairly short order.


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how many mound visits are immediately followed by a grand slam?

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how many mound visits are immediately followed by a grand slam?

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What an absolute waste this guy is. He can't get another start this season.

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What an absolute waste this guy is. He can't get another start this season.


Nonsense. He just came off the DL and you want to shit can him. Crazy.

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To be fair, I was ready to shit can him even before he went on the DL

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He's the guy who will always disappoint you if you count on him for anything other than a back end guy.

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It is amazing to me how many of you guys are ready to give up on Lopez. Its like you want these guys to be finished products when they come up. Especially when they get hurt. Wake up. Lopez has great stuff. Whether he learns technique to control it is up in the air right now. Just like 95% of young pitchers.

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It is amazing to me how many of you guys are ready to give up on Lopez. Its like you want these guys to be finished products when they come up. Especially when they get hurt. Wake up. Lopez has great stuff. Whether he learns technique to control it is up in the air right now. Just like 95% of young pitchers.

There's certain pitchers who put too much on themselves. He's one of them. When you're getting in a jam, it takes all 9 guys to get out of it. Get AHEAD. If they hit it, they hit it.


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