Which actually acknowledges the problem I have with those so aggrieved by her column. DePaul was paying well long ago, Kentucky, UNC, Louisville, Arizona & Auburn are getting caught at it now. It's proof of the flawed system and now if only to disrupt television & shoe company money Hill offers up a choice for some kids & schools that otherwise have been proven to largely have their better educational interests at heart. She's not demanding anything of the elite athlete, just suggesting something many fed up with this entirely corrupt system have murmured about for years. And imo, the reflexive outrage/furor is misplaced, if not completely hypocritical.

It's a completely monopolistic system aided and abetted by the NCAA, major media & shoe companies. That it's so dirty to it's core, yet her clear intent is seemingly being so twisted to defend it is sad imo.

It kind of reminds me of the mid/late 80's & the U. Rotten to the core, but it made boosters feel good & admission applications skyrocket. Bring in the money to what used to be a sleepy school with a crap program and all will be largely overlooked. Until it couldn't be.

In comparison to a dirty national power in basketball at that time, UNLV. Where the games were too late for tv ratings, where the coach thumbed his nose to the "respectables", and yet they were always being hit by the NCAA for fear that they'd disrupt the status quo.

Usually ltg’s derails serve him well, but his failure to know what a mid-major is really kneecapped him here.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

What they really need is a top white player to break the color barrier and go to a HBCU.

I remember some made for tv movie in my youth about that. I think it starred bruce jenner

BOOM, found it:

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Who was that cracker who played for Grambling? I vaguely remember a movie in the 70s about him....

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In comparison to a dirty national power in basketball at that time, UNLV. Where the games were too late for tv ratings, where the coach thumbed his nose to the "respectables", and yet they were always being hit by the NCAA for fear that they'd disrupt the status quo.

I must have missed where she is promoting Segregation. She didn't advocate for all black athletes to attend HBCUs. She wants elite athletes to attend HBCUs. When she begins to lay out the numbers she actually makes a compelling case. Why can't Kentucky acquire the sort of talent that regularly attends Prairie View or Texas Southern?

If you swap the talent (Which Hill appears to be suggesting and not the Segregating of talent) then the level of interest in HBCU programs would heighten tremendously. Conversely the level of "Blueblood" programs would lessen tremendously. They would start getting the doors off of them and I guarantee that the love of all things college which Brick keeps claiming would subsequently be lost.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

The power 5 bullshit is really annoying in a different way tho.

There’s such a bias against the non power 5 conferences from the media.

The NCAA football playoff committee I’m pretty sure is entirely made up of power 5 alumni.

St Johns was never a national power either.

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Seems like there's a bigger difference in football than basketball when it comes to the mid-majors. Still, in football, they don't even try to hide their bias.

Of course, that bald idiot from Duke said that VCU didn't deserve to be in the NCAAs, and then doubled down on his claim after they made the Final Four.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

Between 1982 and 1992 St. John's was ranked in the top 10 nationally during 7 of them. During this same stretch they were ranked in the top 5 in 4 of them (seasons). Its obvious you don't know what the term "national power" means.

There are going to be a lot of "national powers" then.

This is their finishes in the top 25 during your cherry picked 10 year period.

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Seems like there's a bigger difference in football than basketball when it comes to the mid-majors. Still, in football, they don't even try to hide their bias.

Of course, that bald idiot from Duke said that VCU didn't deserve to be in the NCAAs, and then doubled down on his claim after they made the Final Four.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Where they finished is irrelevant since those rankings are taken after the season is over.

If they were "never a national power" then they would never have been ranked at all. Sort of like Northwestern never seems to be.

She kinda did or the Davon Dillard quote wouldn't be in the article.

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What? Those are the best rankings.
Was Illinois a national power?

Lots of teams are ranked multiple times on a decade. That doesn't make you a national power.

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We aren't talking Illinois. They weren't ranked in the top 10 nearly as often and I don't think they cracked the top 5 at all. St. John's was ranked top 5 in 4 seasons out of 10. By anyone (except yours of course) that constitutes a "national power". You are sounding quite silly trying to argue otherwise. St. John's was ranked top 10 7 times in 10 years and Illinois top 10 once in ten years and somehow you think they have similar results.

Keep googling and then come back once you have relevant information to report.

The only thing which makes it Segregationist would be if she stated that blacks should only attend HBCUs. Nowhere in the article did she ever say that.

AP high is not a good way to rank things. In one of those years, they have an AP high of 8, in a season they finished 8-8.

However, if you want to use AP high, Illinois has these: 6,2,7,5,13,1,4 so your numbers are completely wrong about Illinois having a top 10 once in 10 years. Illinois was almost certainly a better program in your time period and probably by a considerable margin.

Says the guy who cited a cherry picked 10 year period of St. Johns basketball but let me guess, you had St. Johns AP highs from 82-92 memorized?

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You were the person that provided the info. If you are ranked in the top 10 at any point during any season that is a big deal. The Big East was the toughest conf in the country during the 80's and as such teams routinely knocked each other off all the time. In 10 years they were ranked in the top 20 during 9 of them. If you don't think that a team ranked in the top 5 in 4 out of 10 seasons constitutes power then you don't know what you are talking about.

Now for the best part. "Mid major" Duke over the same time period using AP high: 14,2,1,12,4,1,3,5,1,NR

So Duke was a mid major prior to Coach K but St John's was a national power because you saw them on tv?

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I chose a random season(85-86), and my quick count is that 20 teams had an AP high of 10 or higher.

It's just a bad stat. AP Final is much more important, because as you pointed out, it happens after all the games have been played.

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Apparently (unsurprisingly) you don't understand how final rankings work. You can lose in the first or 2nd round of the NCAAs and finish outside of the top 25.

The fact they were ranked in the top 10 for 7 out 10 seasons suggests they were a power

St Johns was never a national power either.

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Those games count for the season though. That is why the final rankings matter. However, I believe in the 80s that the Final AP poll was done after the last week of the regular season. For instance, Villanova won the 85-86 national title. However, they were unranked in the final AP poll. However, that goes to show that it wasn't simply a ranking of who did well in the tournament even if it was released afterwards.

So, was Illinois a power in college basketball, because they were better in your time frame than St. Johns.

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In 3 of 4 consecutive seasons St. John's entered the tournament as a number 1 seed.

So, was Illinois a power in college basketball, because they were better in your time frame than St. Johns.

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St. John's was a No. 1 seed 3 times during this particular "time frame"

Illinois was a No. 1 seed only once.