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 Post subject: Re: Never went pro?
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Did any of the old heads ever hear about Billy Harris?


Of course. Streetball legend from Dunbar. Played on a good team at N.I.U. I'm pretty sure he played in the ABA.


They used to say that he was better than Jordan and it wasn't close.


Wasn't "they" it was he that used to say he was better than Jordan. Every now and then a local newspaper would catch up with him and he'd spout off about he was better or Jordan before there was Jordan.

I never heard anyone else say it however


I was hearing older heads talk about him doing stuff that Mike did 10 or 15 years earlier. Maybe it was the entertainment or the wow factor of his game or his scoring ability. I was told that I should have seen him play though.

When I was coming of age playground basketball was still big. Avalon (the primary park I used to be at) had some of everyone come out and play.

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 Post subject: Re: Never went pro?
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Nas wrote:
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Did any of the old heads ever hear about Billy Harris?


Of course. Streetball legend from Dunbar. Played on a good team at N.I.U. I'm pretty sure he played in the ABA.


They used to say that he was better than Jordan and it wasn't close.


Wasn't "they" it was he that used to say he was better than Jordan. Every now and then a local newspaper would catch up with him and he'd spout off about he was better or Jordan before there was Jordan.

I never heard anyone else say it however


I was hearing older heads talk about him doing stuff that Mike did 10 or 15 years earlier. Maybe it was the entertainment or the wow factor of his game or his scoring ability. I was told that I should have seen him play though.

When I was coming of age playground basketball was still big. Avalon (the primary park I used to be at) had some of everyone come out and play.


His old Dunbar coach told a friend of mine that Billy Harris couldn't even touch Ronnie Lester. I figured that he'd know since he coached them both.

I played in Avalon a few times in high school and i also used to come up there and play on Sundays back in the late 90's after i graduated from college.

It along with Fernwood was probably the two top indoor runs on the South Side back in the day. Real solid although on most of those Sundays i'd often come in from partying the night before and wasn't worth much of shit.

They had a few ex pros (mostly overseas) though Donald Whiteside who played in the NBA would also be in there too.

So would our guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Never went pro?
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Could have just been some cats who knew him. A lot of older heads just liked to say they knew or saw something that you didn't.

Antwan Walker and some other cats used to come through even back when they were in high school too.

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Nas wrote:
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Did any of the old heads ever hear about Billy Harris?


Of course. Streetball legend from Dunbar. Played on a good team at N.I.U. I'm pretty sure he played in the ABA.


They used to say that he was better than Jordan and it wasn't close.


Wasn't "they" it was he that used to say he was better than Jordan. Every now and then a local newspaper would catch up with him and he'd spout off about he was better or Jordan before there was Jordan.

I never heard anyone else say it however


I was hearing older heads talk about him doing stuff that Mike did 10 or 15 years earlier. Maybe it was the entertainment or the wow factor of his game or his scoring ability. I was told that I should have seen him play though.

When I was coming of age playground basketball was still big. Avalon (the primary park I used to be at) had some of everyone come out and play.



I think Scoop Jackson wrote a piece that mythologized him and made the Jordan comparison.

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Nas wrote:
Could have just been some cats who knew him. A lot of older heads just liked to say they knew or saw something that you didn't.

Antwan Walker and some other cats used to come through even back when they were in high school too.


Yep. My very best friend's dad was actually in Billy Harris's circle growing up and used to tell me that he wanted no part of Arthur Sivels who was another playground legend.

The local scribes would catch up with him during some of those "whatever happened to" segments and he would always seem so bitter about guys like Jordan. That is what i remembered.

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long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:

Did any of the old heads ever hear about Billy Harris?


Of course. Streetball legend from Dunbar. Played on a good team at N.I.U. I'm pretty sure he played in the ABA.


They used to say that he was better than Jordan and it wasn't close.


Wasn't "they" it was he that used to say he was better than Jordan. Every now and then a local newspaper would catch up with him and he'd spout off about he was better or Jordan before there was Jordan.

I never heard anyone else say it however


I was hearing older heads talk about him doing stuff that Mike did 10 or 15 years earlier. Maybe it was the entertainment or the wow factor of his game or his scoring ability. I was told that I should have seen him play though.

When I was coming of age playground basketball was still big. Avalon (the primary park I used to be at) had some of everyone come out and play.


His old Dunbar coach told a friend of mine that Billy Harris couldn't even touch Ronnie Lester. I figured that he'd know since he coached them both.

I played in Avalon a few times in high school and i also used to come up there and play on Sundays back in the late 90's after i graduated from college.

It along with Fernwood was probably the two top indoor runs on the South Side back in the day. Real solid although on most of those Sundays i'd often come in from partying the night before and wasn't worth much of shit.

They had a few ex pros (mostly overseas) though Donald Whiteside who played in the NBA would also be in there too.

So would our guy.


Fernwood on a Monday night was our thing in 90-91. Back when the young bruhs all wanted to be UNLV.

Or Dauphin park before thst.

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It used to go down outside at rainbow beach too.

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Nas wrote:
It used to go down outside at rainbow beach too.


For a time Foster Park too. Its crazy how much pick up ball here is mostly a thing of the past.

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It used to go down outside at rainbow beach too.


For a time Foster Park too. Its crazy how much pick up ball here is mostly a thing of the past.


Yep! Not many people out playing anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Never went pro?
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
It used to go down outside at rainbow beach too.


For a time Foster Park too. Its crazy how much pick up ball here is mostly a thing of the past.


Yep! Not many people out playing anymore.


Some of the younger guys (late teens and early 20's) are infiltrating our old geezer hoop sets not out of want but out of necessity these days. They can't get a run otherwise it seems.

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