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It’s unbelievable that Kenny Clark is still only 23 years old (turns 24 on Oct. 4) and his play has continued to ascend in his fourth season. Once viewed primarily as a run stopper, Clark is proving he can be much more and has pushed his name into the conversation for the most dominant interior defensive tackle in the NFL – in both the running and passing game.

Clark has earned playing time on third-down passing situations, opportunities he wasn’t getting early in his career:

Third-down snap count

2016: 34 of 262 (13.0 percent)

2017: 98 of 220 (44.5 percent)

2018: 155 of 228 (68.0 percent)

2019: 22 of 28 (78.6 percent)

And with the increased participation comes increased production. Clark already has two sacks in 2019, but his impact is much greater when you look at the pressure he’s putting on opposing QBs. He had six QB pressures in Week 1 against Chicago and another seven on Sunday vs. the Vikings. Clark is currently the second-highest graded interior defensive tackle in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus.


Goddamn it feels good to have a defense again.

Wait, I thought the board’s football guru stated they lack star talent and that none of the box players were extraordinary. :scratch:

I said no such thing you fool. But yes, other fools did :D

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The fact that he sees a higher percentage of snaps because the Packers have gradually hemorrhaged all their other viable interior defensive linemen over the last three years doesn't mean he's elite or even that great.

He oscillates between good or adequate. He looks fantastic when nobody tries to block him, you'll notice that's a running theme with his highlights.

Lol. Just throwing shit at the wall now. It’s not gonna stick my man. Your GB posts since your return read like they come from some bears fan twitter troll who has never even watched a GB game

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Will get thoroughly exposed when teams run at him.

:lol: :lol:

He’s a run defender by nature you dope. He’s become an elite player by also adding a pass rushing repertoire

Just because he is something "by nature" doesn't mean he's any good at it. Teams are going to run right at him. The book is out on the Packers defense and a big part of it is to square up and attack Kenny Clark relentlessly.

If Kenny Clark were on the Bears he'd probably be a part of the rotation but certainly not see more snaps than Goldman, Hicks, Nichols (assuming he's healthy) or Roy Robertson-Harris. He just hasn't been rubbish enough to get cut so you think he's the second coming. No different than all us retarded Bears fans who saw (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky make a few passes against the a dead-in-the-water Buccaneers team and started fitting the HOF bust.


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Will get thoroughly exposed when teams run at him.

:lol: :lol:

He’s a run defender by nature you dope. He’s become an elite player by also adding a pass rushing repertoire

Just because he is something "by nature" doesn't mean he's any good at it. Teams are going to run right at him. The book is out on the Packers defense and a big part of it is to square up and attack Kenny Clark relentlessly.

If Kenny Clark were on the Bears he'd probably be a part of the rotation but certainly not see more snaps than Goldman, Hicks, Nichols (assuming he's healthy) or Roy Robertson-Harris. He just hasn't been rubbish enough to get cut so you think he's the second coming. No different than all us retarded Bears fans who saw (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky make a few passes against the a dead-in-the-water Buccaneers team and started fitting the HOF bust.

:lol:

See my last post in this thread. You’re either highly ignorant of the Packers or just trolling, which I also dabble in from time to time. Both seem equally plausible.

Anyway, Minnesota had success with the outside zone rush and one of the most electric players in the league last week. GB still won and contained the rush well outside of the 75 yard run and they were unable to run at Clark all game long. The Bears were absolutely futile the few times they attempted to run on Clark in the middle.

I’ll say my favorite part of your post was thinking KC was ever gonna be in danger of being cut. That made me chuckle.

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Will get thoroughly exposed when teams run at him.

:lol: :lol:

He’s a run defender by nature you dope. He’s become an elite player by also adding a pass rushing repertoire

Just because he is something "by nature" doesn't mean he's any good at it. Teams are going to run right at him. The book is out on the Packers defense and a big part of it is to square up and attack Kenny Clark relentlessly.

If Kenny Clark were on the Bears he'd probably be a part of the rotation but certainly not see more snaps than Goldman, Hicks, Nichols (assuming he's healthy) or Roy Robertson-Harris. He just hasn't been rubbish enough to get cut so you think he's the second coming. No different than all us retarded Bears fans who saw (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky make a few passes against the a dead-in-the-water Buccaneers team and started fitting the HOF bust.

:lol:

See my last post in this thread. You’re either highly ignorant of the Packers or just trolling, which I also dabble in from time to time. Both seem equally plausible.

Anyway, Minnesota had success with the outside zone rush and one of the most electric players in the league last week. GB still won and contained the rush well outside of the 75 yard run and they were unable to run at Clark all game long. The Bears were absolutely futile the few times they attempted to run on Clark in the middle.

Clark wasn't in for the 75 yard run. And Savage took a Conte-esque angle. Perfect storm of shit.


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Yeah that was bad from Savage. Rookie moment. Made up for it with the pass break up INT to Preston

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Will get thoroughly exposed when teams run at him.

:lol: :lol:

He’s a run defender by nature you dope. He’s become an elite player by also adding a pass rushing repertoire

Just because he is something "by nature" doesn't mean he's any good at it. Teams are going to run right at him. The book is out on the Packers defense and a big part of it is to square up and attack Kenny Clark relentlessly.

If Kenny Clark were on the Bears he'd probably be a part of the rotation but certainly not see more snaps than Goldman, Hicks, Nichols (assuming he's healthy) or Roy Robertson-Harris. He just hasn't been rubbish enough to get cut so you think he's the second coming. No different than all us retarded Bears fans who saw (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky make a few passes against the a dead-in-the-water Buccaneers team and started fitting the HOF bust.

:lol:

See my last post in this thread. You’re either highly ignorant of the Packers or just trolling, which I also dabble in from time to time. Both seem equally plausible.

Anyway, Minnesota had success with the outside zone rush and one of the most electric players in the league last week. GB still won and contained the rush well outside of the 75 yard run and they were unable to run at Clark all game long. The Bears were absolutely futile the few times they attempted to run on Clark in the middle.

I’ll say my favorite part of your post was thinking KC was ever gonna be in danger of being cut. That made me chuckle.

The Bears never even tried to run the ball.


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There's really no use arguing this with you because you insist that because the Packers watched the Bears writhe in self-destructive futility and Kirk Cousins typically implode that every Packers starter is now outlandishly incredible. You weren't even being ironic when you called him Aaron Donald-lite. You genuinely believe this loose assortment of guys who weren't good enough to get paid by their original teams and average-ish draft picks is now the NFL's best defense.

It'll go on at least another week because the Broncos are inept and wont even have the advantage of being at home. But then the Packers will face actual opponents and the wheels will come off like it always does.


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There's really no use arguing this with you because you insist that because the Packers watched the Bears writhe in self-destructive futility and Kirk Cousins typically implode that every Packers starter is now outlandishly incredible. You weren't even being ironic when you called him Aaron Donald-lite. You genuinely believe this loose assortment of guys who weren't good enough to get paid by their original teams and average-ish draft picks is now the NFL's best defense.

It'll go on at least another week because the Broncos are inept and wont even have the advantage of being at home. But then the Packers will face actual opponents and the wheels will come off like it always does.

There’s several GB starters who are average or worse. Kenny Clark is not one of them and this is not some new 2 game development. Every GB who paid at least half a shit’s worth of attention last year knew KC was about to break out into superstardom. It’s entirely unsurprising that it’s coming to fruition and is equally unsurprising that you never heard of him before last week.

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There's really no use arguing this with you because you insist that because the Packers watched the Bears writhe in self-destructive futility and Kirk Cousins typically implode that every Packers starter is now outlandishly incredible. You weren't even being ironic when you called him Aaron Donald-lite. You genuinely believe this loose assortment of guys who weren't good enough to get paid by their original teams and average-ish draft picks is now the NFL's best defense.

It'll go on at least another week because the Broncos are inept and wont even have the advantage of being at home. But then the Packers will face actual opponents and the wheels will come off like it always does.

Using non-home grown players as a criticism is bizarre when half the Bears defense is built via free agency/trade. Their two best players were signed and traded for...


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There's really no use arguing this with you because you insist that because the Packers watched the Bears writhe in self-destructive futility and Kirk Cousins typically implode that every Packers starter is now outlandishly incredible. You weren't even being ironic when you called him Aaron Donald-lite. You genuinely believe this loose assortment of guys who weren't good enough to get paid by their original teams and average-ish draft picks is now the NFL's best defense.

It'll go on at least another week because the Broncos are inept and wont even have the advantage of being at home. But then the Packers will face actual opponents and the wheels will come off like it always does.

Using non-home grown players as a criticism is bizarre when half the Bears defense is built via free agency/trade. Their two best players were signed and traded for...

Their two best player are Mack and Jackson. The third best is Fuller and fourth is Roquan.

Nothing against Akiem Hicks, who is so much better than Kenny Clark we cant even seriously compare the two, but the Bears defense is mostly homegrown. The Khalil Mack situation was very different than the circumstances that led Preston Smith to the Packers door.


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There's really no use arguing this with you because you insist that because the Packers watched the Bears writhe in self-destructive futility and Kirk Cousins typically implode that every Packers starter is now outlandishly incredible. You weren't even being ironic when you called him Aaron Donald-lite. You genuinely believe this loose assortment of guys who weren't good enough to get paid by their original teams and average-ish draft picks is now the NFL's best defense.

It'll go on at least another week because the Broncos are inept and wont even have the advantage of being at home. But then the Packers will face actual opponents and the wheels will come off like it always does.

Using non-home grown players as a criticism is bizarre when half the Bears defense is built via free agency/trade. Their two best players were signed and traded for...

Their two best player are Mack and Jackson. The third best is Fuller and fourth is Roquan.

Nothing against Akiem Hicks, who is so much better than Kenny Clark we cant even seriously compare the two, but the Bears defense is mostly homegrown. The Khalil Mack situation was very different than the circumstances that led Preston Smith to the Packers door.

Hicks is better than Clark? :lol:

Now I know you’re trolling. I was waiting for confirmation.

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Hicks' intimidation factor alone is worth two Kenny Clark's.


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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Outside of the Smith bros and Amos GB defense is home grown also. KC, Jaire, Martinez and now Savage and King also stepping up. You need to try harder Gus.

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Earlier this summer a couple Bear fan friends argued vehemently Hicks was better than Chris Jones so I’m not unfamiliar with how vastly you guys overrate Hicks but I guess it still catches me off guard.

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Outside of the Smith bros and Amos GB defense is home grown also. KC, Jaire, Martinez and now Savage and King also stepping up. You need to try harder Gus.

You wont listen to any of it because you're convinced these early results are going to hold up all season. Come week six or week seven and it'll be back the usual, including Kenny Clark getting blown off the ball en route to countless opponent 100 yard rush efforts.


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Outside of the Smith bros and Amos GB defense is home grown also. KC, Jaire, Martinez and now Savage and King also stepping up. You need to try harder Gus.

You wont listen to any of it because you're convinced these early results are going to hold up all season. Come week six or week seven and it'll be back the usual, including Kenny Clark getting blown off the ball en route to countless opponent 100 yard rush efforts.

If you want to criticize Blake I’d listen and likely agree. Same if you want to point out King is mr glass. But you are correct that you are not going to convince me Clark is anything less than great. Likewise I’m guessing there’s not much I could say to convince you Hicks is overrated and not great.

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Have we gotten into the discussion about the emergence of Dean Lowry?

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Have we gotten into the discussion about the emergence of Dean Lowry?

Not yet. I’m saving that. America is still trying to come to grips with the idea Kenny Clark is awesome. Baby steps.

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That trade with NO might have saved Rodgers window of contention. Jaire Alexander and Darnell Savage for Marcus davenport. Ouch.

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This team sucks and its ridiculous we didn't beat them.


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Is that our first official sighting of Rodgers being a malcontent to his head coach?


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Is that our first official sighting of Rodgers being a malcontent to his head coach?

BREAKING NEWS: NFL QB frustrated after 3 and out series.

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How's your boy Kenny Clark doing failing to tackle little ol Philip Lindsey and getting blown four yards off the ball every play? Long way to go to be as good as Eddie Goldman, mate.


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How's your boy Kenny Clark doing failing to tackle little ol Philip Lindsey and getting blown four yards off the ball every play? Long way to go to be as good as Eddie Goldman, mate.

Lol. Defense is playing well, yet again. The Smith bros are average... :lol:

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Barely containing Joe Flacco and getting absolutely shredded by Philip Lindsay. Dont really have room to be gloat or be sarcastic here mate, Broncos offense looks twice as good at Lambeau than it did last week at home.


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Barely containing Joe Flacco and getting absolutely shredded by Philip Lindsay. Dont really have room to be gloat or be sarcastic here mate, Broncos offense looks twice as good at Lambeau than it did last week at home.

They have essentially the same amount of points as last week and there’s less than 9 minutes left.

Manny Sanders hasn’t done shit after cutting you guys up all game last week either.

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Barely containing Joe Flacco and getting absolutely shredded by Philip Lindsay. Dont really have room to be gloat or be sarcastic here mate, Broncos offense looks twice as good at Lambeau than it did last week at home.

They have essentially the same amount of points as last week and there’s less than 9 minutes left.

Manny Sanders hasn’t done shit after cutting you guys up all game last week either.

No this week its Courtland Sutton doing the cutting. Is that any less sad?


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