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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:25 pm 
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why this dissent was ever being dignified with a response is beyond me

Not a peep for decades of throw back uniforms in baseball


That's what I was thinking. MLB has been doing throw back uniforms for years. And nobody in MLB has apologized for white people being rascist mother fuckers in the early 1900s.

Actually, the Bears once wore an old "Bumble bee" uniform from the 1920s I think. They didn't apologize for the fuckin' whites in that era when they wore those uniforms.

And the New York Yankees have the same uniforms they had in 1920. Should they apologize every day?

We live in weird times.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:03 pm 
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This article certainly doesn't paint a pretty picture.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2019/ ... ck-players

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“What makes the NFL so unique is that it’s a full-fledged league and it starts off integrated,” says professor, author and historian Louis Moore, whose work includes the podcast The Black Athlete. “What you’re hinting at is the historical amnesia that we do have.”

From the league’s inaugural season of 1920 until 1933, black players not only played — they dominated. All-Pro halfback Fritz Pollard led the league’s first champions, the Akron Pros; the next year, he became player-coach. Tackle Duke Slater was among the most decorated players in the league of his day, honored in six seasons on an All-Pro team. End Inky Williams of Hammond earned All-Pro honors in 1923. Ten years later, the final full-time black player before the ban, Joe Lillard, led his Cardinals in rushing yards, passing yards, total yards and points.

And then suddenly, they were all gone. There was no press release. Nothing on paper. Over the years, the owners involved maintained that no such ban ever occurred. Halas in particular twice offered implausible explanations as to why the league had black players during its first 14 years and none for the next 12.

In an interview for the 1970 book “The Game That Was” by longtime Steelers broadcaster Myron Cope, Halas claimed that he didn’t know why black players were out of the league for 12 years, but speculated that, “Probably it was due to the fact that no great black players were in colleges then.” He also told Cope that there was no ban, “in no way, shape or form.”

And in an interview with the L.A. Times in 1976, Halas again said that he didn’t know why the NFL had 12 years of all-white football, but posited that, “probably the game didn’t have the appeal to black players at the time. Probably they didn’t realize the possibilities of the game at the time.”



I read the full article. What I was struck by was that there really is no "smoking gun" about the NFL banning black players anywhere so if they did it , it was done under the table so to speak. If George Halas was racist, then where is the absolute evidence against him? He was CHEAP for sure, but extended money to many players who had fallen on tough times, black and white. I think that articles like the one referenced are done to make money for the author and not much else. It is akin to the charges that show up often about how the Founding Fathers were racist an evil.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:11 pm 
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I wore a Kansas City Monarch baseball cap for a few years while coaching my travel team. Bought it in Kansas City while visiting the Negro League Baseball museum there. When coaching, a number of young black kids asked me about what it was and I told them about the great players that were in that league and some were very interested. IF you ever get a chance and are in KC, I recommend spending some time and visiting that Museum. It is right next to another interesting place, namely the Jazz HOF which is also pretty cool.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:22 pm 
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The Hawk wrote:
I wore a Kansas City Monarch baseball cap for a few years while coaching my travel team. Bought it in Kansas City while visiting the Negro League Baseball museum there. When coaching, a number of young black kids asked me about what it was and I told them about the great players that were in that league and some were very interested. IF you ever get a chance and are in KC, I recommend spending some time and visiting that Museum. It is right next to another interesting place, namely the Jazz HOF which is also pretty cool.


I recommend "Only the Ball Was White" by Robert Peterson. History of the Negro League and African-American baseball players prior to 1947.

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The Hawk wrote:
I wore a Kansas City Monarch baseball cap for a few years while coaching my travel team. Bought it in Kansas City while visiting the Negro League Baseball museum there. When coaching, a number of young black kids asked me about what it was and I told them about the great players that were in that league and some were very interested. IF you ever get a chance and are in KC, I recommend spending some time and visiting that Museum. It is right next to another interesting place, namely the Jazz HOF which is also pretty cool.


I recommend "Only the Ball Was White" by Robert Peterson. History of the Negro League and African-American baseball players prior to 1947.

Seconded. (Thought I had it on my computer....can't find it.) I think you recommended this to me or vice-versa.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:42 am 
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dumb.

I hope noone buys that jersey. WOuld be funny if they generated ZERO proceeds. Or at least if the only people that bought one were black. They wanna "improve" things, let THEM pay for it. Why should a white man do it?

Of course, theyre targeting a white audience with this jersey. All to give money to blacks.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:12 pm 
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FrankDrebin wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
I wore a Kansas City Monarch baseball cap for a few years while coaching my travel team. Bought it in Kansas City while visiting the Negro League Baseball museum there. When coaching, a number of young black kids asked me about what it was and I told them about the great players that were in that league and some were very interested. IF you ever get a chance and are in KC, I recommend spending some time and visiting that Museum. It is right next to another interesting place, namely the Jazz HOF which is also pretty cool.


I recommend "Only the Ball Was White" by Robert Peterson. History of the Negro League and African-American baseball players prior to 1947.


Thanks. I will look into that. I am amazed how much that young black players do not know much about the great players who were in the league. I had a black kid on my team while we were playing in the Mickey Mantle league. He was small but one of the fastest kids I have ever coached. His father also, was a multi-millionaire but was as decent a guy as I ever knew.

One day we had a double header at Jackie Robinson Field which is a stones throw from the Rose Bowl in Pasadena and they had a monument which highlighted Jackie's exploits. Jackie was a player at Pasadena JC before going to UCLA and played baseball on that very field. The kid actually asked me who Jackie Robinson was and I was shocked that he didn't know anything about him. So I spent some time with him and told him what I knew about Robinson. I guess that younger black people and probably young kids in general don't know much of the history of the great players that were in the Negro league.

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Why is Khalil Mack not in the video?

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Why is Khalil Mack not in the video?


Too black!

Not black enough!


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