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 Post subject: Amber Guyger Trial
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Walking into a man's house and murdering him while he is eating ice cream on the couch is illegal even for a police officer according to the jury.

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Walking into a man's house and murdering him while he is eating ice cream on the couch is illegal even for a police officer according to the jury.

Is this the goofball that was sending pics of her junk to her patrol partner?

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 Post subject: Re: Amber Gieger Trial
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Walking into a man's house and murdering him while he is eating ice cream on the couch is illegal even for a police officer according to the jury.


I can't fucking believe this shit! You can't make this up!

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seemed pretty open and shut.

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Walking into a man's house and murdering him while he is eating ice cream on the couch is illegal even for a police officer according to the jury.

Is this the goofball that was sending pics of her junk to her patrol partner?


Yep! She was trying to fuck her married partner before running in the wrong house.

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 Post subject: Re: Amber Guyger Trial
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That's kind of a weird picture choice for the attorney to tweet out. I'd have opted for a more determined or pensive look.


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Glad to see the kunt convicted of murder. I hope she gets shivved in prison

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Glad to see the kunt convicted of murder. I hope she gets shivved in prison


I think the judge will take it easy on her. If I read correctly the judge allowed her to use the castle doctrine as a defense in another man's house. No more than 10 years is my guess.

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Did the victim buy her alcohol before she shot him?

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Recently it has gotten better when it comes to cops. I'll call that progress.

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She was just following D-Bags and advice and started a shooting, but panicked when it was time to shoot herself.

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I wonder if she would have been found guilty had she been on duty when this shooting occurred.

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Recently it has gotten better when it comes to cops. I'll call that progress.


I mean it's hard to say you feared for your safety when you're in someone else's home.

Progress is good indeed.

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Did the victim buy her alcohol before she shot him?


Asked if she wanted to hit the blunt. She said "White paper only!" and then shot him.

Seriously this guy was probably high as hell eating his bowl of ice cream and then some crazy lady bursts into his apartment and shoots him. She blew his high before he passed away. That's fucked up.

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Their faces are all fucked up.

Damn.

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Recently it has gotten better when it comes to cops. I'll call that progress.


I mean it's hard to say you feared for your safety when you're in someone else's home.

Progress is good indeed.


I thought the jury may find her defense plausible. She was tired and was on the wrong floor and she was a woman. Then I read last night that the judge allowed the castle doctrine to be used as a defense.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Glad to see the kunt convicted of murder. I hope she gets shivved in prison


I think the judge will take it easy on her. If I read correctly the judge allowed her to use the castle doctrine as a defense in another man's house. No more than 10 years is my guess.

That would be pretty fucked up.

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As a juror, it seems like the only difference would have been manslaughter vs murder. I'm not necessarily sure she planned out and had premeditated to kill the guy, but there is no way to have found her innocent.

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Nas wrote:
Walking into a man's house and murdering him while he is eating ice cream on the couch is illegal even for a police officer according to the jury.


lactose intolerance is a reasonable fear

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This seems more like manslaughter than murder. A totally fucked-up tragedy.

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Manslaughter might apply if she had pulled her gun and aimed it, say, at a passing gaggle of geese flying by behind Jean with the intention of firing a warning shot or securing a Christmas goose or whatever and accidentally shot dude instead. Or if she pulled her gun but didn't intend to shoot and the gun accidentally went off cuz of nerves, then maybe manslaughter. But by her own statement to police she thought Botham was an intruder--so she drew her gun, aimed directly at Botham Jean, intentionally pulled the trigger and hit her target, rendering the human unlive. That's murder all day, every day, even in Texas.


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This seems more like manslaughter than murder. A totally fucked-up tragedy.


That's kinda what I thought too. Maybe there was something more to it that we haven't heard. Either way before pulling the trigger she should have been able to recognize that she was in the wrong apartment and the man high as hell and eating ice cream on the couch wasn't a threat. They had enough time to yell at each other.

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This seems more like manslaughter than murder. A totally fucked-up tragedy.



I haven't followed the story since it happened, but are we sure she went into the "wrong apartment"? I remember reading she had previous beef with the guy.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
This seems more like manslaughter than murder. A totally fucked-up tragedy.


That's kinda what I thought too. Maybe there was something more to it that we haven't heard. Either way before pulling the trigger she should have been able to recognize that she was in the wrong apartment and the man high as hell and eating ice cream on the couch wasn't a threat. They had enough time to yell at each other.


If they never knew each other it's pretty tough to create a motive. It seems like her story added up especially when combined with her 911 call. It's a terrible tragedy, and she likely never should have been a cop or given a gun in the first place.

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This seems more like manslaughter than murder. A totally fucked-up tragedy.



I haven't followed the story since it happened, but are we sure she went into the "wrong apartment"? I remember reading she had previous beef with the guy.


I've never seen that anywhere. If they had a prior relationship it certainly changes things.

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Manslaughter might apply if she had pulled her gun and aimed it, say, at a passing gaggle of geese flying by behind Jean with the intention of firing a warning shot or securing a Christmas goose or whatever and accidentally shot dude instead. Or if she pulled her gun but didn't intend to shoot and the gun accidentally went off cuz of nerves, then maybe manslaughter. But by her own statement to police she thought Botham was an intruder--so she drew her gun, aimed directly at Botham Jean, intentionally pulled the trigger and hit her target, rendering the human unlive. That's murder all day, every day, even in Texas.

That's pretty much the way I heard it explained too

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