I didn't say that. She was enough of a bigot with deep seated racist beliefs to text racist stereotypes and innuendos to her friends. I contend that she likely wouldn't have shot the guy had he been white.

Maybe she has seen the light and feels really terrible...her victim still did absolutely nothing wrong and is still quite dead.

10 years for barging into someone else's home and shooting them dead is way too light.

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Frank bringing the balance and sanity.

She could declare herself to be a racist and a bigot in a court of law and he'd still profess otherwise. Meanwhile he has no trouble believing that you're an Anti Semite if you are a non supporter of Bernie Sanders. Now there is hypocrisy for you.

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She def should have gotten a longer sentence, but I think when you look at all the shit police have gotten away with in this country a win is a win.

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I have no idea what the "right" sentence is for a crime. To me that entire argument seems arbitrary. You have zero clue on why she shot him beyond her explanation and the facts in the case. It's absolutely pure religious dogma to say she would not have shot a white guy based on zero evidence beyond stupid text messages and "innuendo". Based on that I hope any Asians near Caller Bob have vests on.

I think we are overall far to out for punishment in this society. I certainly agree that there are too many people in prison.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Fuckin' wut?!



Jails are 100% overcrowded...WITH NON-VIOLENT VICTIMS OF THE WAR ON DRUGS".

With violent, racist, murdering cops?

Not so much.

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"Racist" murdering cops represent about one half of one-tenth of a percent of the total murders in the country. Yet you have been able to use this single anecdote to confirm your own biased beliefs that:

1. Cops are racist
2. It's mostly non-violent drug addicts that fill the prisons

This was most likely an accident, but march on soldier in finding racism everywhere.

What's interesting about this case is feminists constantly says 1/3 of the women in the country will be victims of sexual assault, and to trust all women. Let's apply that to this case. We trust that she thought it was her house. Can we blame her for being afraid that a man was in what she thought was her house?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Everyone who notices incongruities in the world and has close friends does that to some extent. It's scary that that can be held against us. Of course, I have no idea what's in those texts, so I could be wrong, especially if there was some sort of obsessive pattern. Then, yeah, we might know how she habitually and unconsciously formed judgments.



Yeah, that's very possible, and for a variety of reasons, some of them cultural. Do we have any evidence that this is true, though? (I am genuinely asking. I should have followed the trial more closely.) I can say, however, that on an unconscious level, I used to find race very persuasive when it came to snap judgments on who is a criminal and who isn't. That sort of "black = bad = less worthy" thing is engrained early. Or used to be.

Nevertheless, something is just unsatisfying to me about calling this racist (or only racist) because that means different things to different people. I am also uncomfortable about saying it's not racist.

Payback against a group of people isn't justice, though, That sentiment can get ugly quickly. (It's called qugliness.) But cops as a whole have gotten away with so much. I think we can document that.

You probably should not be more offended by the sentence or demand more punishment than the family of the victim:

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

yeah, the anti-carceral nation movement shouldn't be hijacked by killers and other violent adult offenders for a get out of prison early card. Just because America has way too many people in prison for way too long doesn't mean we should be paroling BTK any time soon (or ever); or that newly minted convicted killers should receive lighter sentences than people currently serving too much time for having a pound of weed.

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If you've ever walked into the wrong sex-dungeon basement by mistake thinking it was yours or gotten into the wrong hatchback by mistake, what's the first thing you notice? The smell. People's homes/vehicles have a distinct smell. And if you walk into someone else's house thinking it's yours the smell is probably the first clue you have that it's not yours. It's immediately noticeable: Hey, wtf, this doesn't smell like my dirty socks/boxers/chained up teenage runaway



That everyone in the building/on the floors where killer-cop lady lived was aware of the confusing layout and the possibility that you might end up on the wrong floor going into the wrong unit makes what Guyger did less understandable as a complete accident. If it were a building where it was exceedingly rare to get confused and enter the wrong apt then Guyger's firm belief that she was in the correct apt and that Botham Jean was an intruder would be more believable. In the facts as presented by Guyger's defense---it's a confusing layout and all the residents, including Guyger, were conscious of the confusion---Guyger shouldn't have been so firm in her belief that she was in the correct apt. Hey, what's that smell? Whose that guy eating ice cream on the couch? Whoops, wrong apt again! Not, "I'm 100% that this my apt, so that guy has to be an intruder."

There might be something to the rumors JORR mentioned that Guyger already had a problem with Jean.

That's some pretty fantastic reasoning there. It's easy to get confused. Thus she must be lying about being confused.

Also, do you have a source on the "rumors"?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I’ve seen it nowhere.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

It's not the getting confused and going to the wrong apt part that's at issue. It's the reasonableness of her response to getting confused and going into the wrong apt.

If it's something that's never happened before and doesn't happen to everyone in the building, then, yeah, why would she have any reason to doubt that that's her apt and Botham Jean's an intruder. However, because she and her defense team made a big stink about how everybody there was constantly going into each other's apts on accident her immediate response shouldn't have been to draw her weapon and shoot. Instead her first thought being "hey, this is that confusing layout thing again" makes more sense in the context delineated by her own defense.

Yes, defend the white offender against the black victim to the very end WFR. You go girl.

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Problem solved then . At only the cost of her job, freedom , future employment ( if she even survives prison ) but I’ll guess she’s doing cartwheels in her cell knowing she got rid of that loud darkie in 4C.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I am glad you are more mad than the victim's family. And there is certainly one person being a bitch about this. We can all rest assured you are one of the good white people now. Still not as good as being black, but as good as you can be you privileged male!

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

If you dont want someone sounding like they’re defending the white offender against the black victim make a better argument you fucking dolt.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Fuck off. I can't make wfr sound less bigoted.

But here, I'll leave race out of it.

A person walks into their neighbor's residence, finds them sitting innocently on the couch eating ice cream, neighbor says "WTF?!", person then pulls gun and proceeds to shoot neighbor, killing them...later admits to shooting to kill...Said person says "Oops, my bad...thought this was my place. Cut me some slack, I had a long day."

Jury: "Sounds legit, 10 years."

Sensible people: "10 years seems pretty light"

WFR: "Seems more than fair...actually I think it's downright excessive! Do you dopes have any idea how rough it is to get by as a felon in this country?!"

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Pretty heartwarming actually. Not sure I could be the better person if I were in this guy's shoes.



https://www.yahoo.com/gma/jury-deciding ... ories.html

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You'd think so.

Very heartwarming. Forgiveness is divine. I'm not a death penalty advocate.

She still deserves more than 10 years.

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Could be. But I also think she is the type of person that actually can be 'rehabilitated' and return to being a productive person in society. I don't truly believe that her crime was premeditated. There are MANY people who deserve to be locked up and have the key thrown away while they rot in a concrete box as punishment for crimes they have committed. I don't necessarily believe she fits that category.

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Could you imagine living this way were everyone was a bigot who needed to be re-programmed? You brought race in the first place to prove what a terrible racist justice system because she did not get the same sentence as someone who drove their car into a crowd on live tv.

There are many different details in this case that you choose to ignore in this dramatic retelling.

1. She is a police officer with no criminal record.

2. It's a apartment complex, not a home, that many people testified was confusing.

3. She's a woman alone who believes she sees an intruder.

4. She immediately called 911.

Had it been a white person you would not have cared who she shot. You might have even celebrated it as a strike against privilege. You just wanted to use the tragedy remind everyone how woke you are.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

And in your dramatic retelling, you ignore the tiny little detail of her killing another human being.

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So I have to retell the parts that GoldenJet stated in order to point out the differences?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?