If'n I'm a regular Wang Zhang living on mainland China and someone, anyone asks my opinion on the uprising in HK...prolly I'm going to say whatever best comports with the official party line and keeps me out of harm's way. Hell, if you're a Chinese national living/studying/working in the United States and you say anything in opposition to the Chinese government you're risking your family back in China's well-being.

Yea its hard to suss whats bullshit and what isn't but Chinese abroad are either hiding it very well or do genuinely believe China is the world's preeminent military superpower and should take Taiwan & HK by force even if it means sinking a US carrier or two.

Too bad they weren't ever in position to do anything about it and i'm certain this "adverserial" relationship talk was squashed the second it came time to borrow money from or purchase cheap goods from them.

This country is no different than the NBA in that regard.

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Remember when Charlotte lost the All-Star Game over trans people peeing? Talk about picking your spots.

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You are aware that the US is in a very well publicized trade war with the PRC right now?

Its not based upon them being human rights violators.

Even during this "well publicized" trade war we are still continuing to purchase cheap goods from them.

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Mate even "big ones" like Vietnam and WW2 weren't fought on the basis of human rights violations. Its about balance of power and the international order. If you want to operate from this level of college freshman naivite just keep your thoughts to yourself or put them on Twitter.

I'm not the one bashing the NBA for making a business decision. I'm also not the one that only views the NBA through political lenses.

This country accepts the human rights violations of China and other nations. Notably Russia and Saudi Arabia.

To hear guys on here bash the NBA for hand slapping Morey is a joke and its only done because they dislike and in some cases hate the NBA.

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Saudi Arabia is really the only one that resonates with me and I reckon if you polled Americans they'd be largely in favour of glassing them.

Russia is a human rights violator as well and it doesn't matter what the poll numbers are as our political and business leaders routinely conduct business with them even as its well known that they are human rights violators and sponsors of terrorism.

Hell we were on the brink of warring for them a few weeks ago remember. Don't approach this with all the naivete of a Freshman Humanities Seminar Student.
Saudi Arabia sponsored the 9/11 attacks and we still didn't "glass" them over it.

We'd much rather have cheap gas prices than avenge "the worst attack ever perpetrated on American soil".

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Well see that's where you get at the real issue I have with Saudi Arabia. I dont really care that they treat their people like shit. I do care that they coordinated and launched 9/11. I feel like many people feel this way.

But just because we have failed to properly deal with the Saudi's doesn't mean we should also fail to properly deal with the Chinese.

We aren't properly dealing with China. We imposed tariffs. We haven't boycotted nor imposed economic sanctions on them. We damn sure wouldn't do it over human rights violations or "democracy" either. They have been enslaving Muslims and the media and people of this country could give a shit.

This little thread isn't about China and their practices and politics. We could give a shit about either.
Its about once again bashing the politics of the NBA.

Could be wrong but i get the feeling that most fans of the NBA do not watch because they are oh so interested in getting Lebron James's take on Chinese politics.

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I've been bashing China the whole thread mate. Pretty sure other's have too.

Nah its been much more about the "wokeness" of the NBA.

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In other words, shut up and watch them dribble.

It's been about the NBA kowtowing to a tyrannical government because of money.

It just illustrates plainly that businesses are whores.

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If you don't think there's an arrogant pride in guys like Popovich, Kerr, and LeBron for being on the "right side of history", you're wrong. And if don't you think the NBA itself has positioned itself as being more "woke" than other leagues, you're wrong again.

Look, Michael Jordan has often taken heat for his failure to support woke causes or to be an activist for "his community" (Highland Park? Boca Raton?). He's more interested in stuffing his pockets with dollars or yuan as the case may be. He may be a bad guy, but he isn't a fucking hypocrite.

On the other hand, Pop, Kerr, and LeBron never fail to find a microphone into which they can spout Left-wing talking points. But suddenly they're meek little mice when it comes to standing up for those whose human rights are being violated in Hong Kong or an NBA colleague who had the actual courage to do the same. It's easy to bash Donald Trump and take a bow. That doesn't cost you anything.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Speaking out against bigotry and injustice are left wing talking points? If you don't speak out against every injustice everywhere then you're a hypocrite? Who decides that? The people who are always silent and who are uncomfortable with social progress?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

check out this load of shit from some chinaman NBA owner.

How do you respond "fuck you" in Chinese



Anyone remember when the league forced another owner to sell the team for political views a few years ago?

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Okay. It's real heroic to move your All-Star game over a bathroom while stuffing your pockets with yuan and hanging Daryl Morey out to dry. Great social progress!

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

That's what all of this antagonism and "woke" talk is all about. Especially where you are concerned.

"The nerve of them. How dare they attempt to address bigotry and racism. From a Jewish owner ta boot". Guess means the NBA is a league filled with Anti Semitism also.

Even that decision was based more on business than anything else.

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Cry more China.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

This is moral relativism of the worst kind. But feel free to bash the president and call anyone you like a "bigot" under the cloak the country you feel so comfortable criticizing constantly.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Don't ask him about the Uighurs

That's one of those "third rail" topics.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

That’s when “smart “ LeBron appears and dons his glasses to really drive the message home .

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Did you consider the NBA particularly "woke" when they made the players wear suits so that the paying customers wouldn't think they were looking at pimps and drug dealers on the sidelines whenever they attended games?

Did you think they were "woke" when they turned a blind's eye to Sterling's bigotry and racism for years. Only deciding to do something about it because it became "bad for business"?

Do you think that they are particularly "woke" whenever they decide to fine a player for criticizing the referees?

They may be a tad more progressive than other leagues but that hardly makes them the progressive league.

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Doesn't make them any different than anyone else in that regard.

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I think we're in agreement. Except that I'd say they're no more progressive than other leagues at all. They just like to act as if they are. We don't use the word "owner", but fuck people in Hong Kong struggling to be free. We need to sell Space Jam 2 in Beijing.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

They are more progressive than other leagues. Their hiring record for minorities is without peer. They were hiring black coaches and black GMs when NFL teams were still struggling to place black QBs on their rosters.

They also were the first of the major sports leagues to have a majority black owner.

They also were the first to openly embrace hip hop culture.

They were also the first major sport to openly market black players.

They are more progressive but i would hardly consider them to be a progressive league.

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So basically the owner of the Nets thinks Morey should "stick to sports"?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!