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We aren't properly dealing with China. We imposed tariffs. We haven't boycotted nor imposed economic sanctions on them. We damn sure wouldn't do it over human rights violations or "democracy" either. They have been enslaving Muslims and the media and people of this country could give a shit.

This little thread isn't about China and their practices and politics. We could give a shit about either.
Its about once again bashing the politics of the NBA.

I've been bashing China the whole thread mate. Pretty sure other's have too.


Nah its been much more about the "wokeness" of the NBA.


It's been about the NBA kowtowing to a tyrannical government because of money.

It just illustrates plainly that businesses are whores.


Doesn't make them any different than anyone else in that regard.


Of course not.

But much like the WWE and its Saudi Arabia relationship, it's worthy of criticism.

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We aren't properly dealing with China. We imposed tariffs. We haven't boycotted nor imposed economic sanctions on them. We damn sure wouldn't do it over human rights violations or "democracy" either. They have been enslaving Muslims and the media and people of this country could give a shit.

This little thread isn't about China and their practices and politics. We could give a shit about either.
Its about once again bashing the politics of the NBA.

I've been bashing China the whole thread mate. Pretty sure other's have too.


Nah its been much more about the "wokeness" of the NBA.


It's been about the NBA kowtowing to a tyrannical government because of money.

It just illustrates plainly that businesses are whores.


Doesn't make them any different than anyone else in that regard.


Of course not.

But much like the WWE and its Saudi Arabia relationship, it's worthy of criticism.



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 Post subject: Re: The NBA
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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We aren't properly dealing with China. We imposed tariffs. We haven't boycotted nor imposed economic sanctions on them. We damn sure wouldn't do it over human rights violations or "democracy" either. They have been enslaving Muslims and the media and people of this country could give a shit.

This little thread isn't about China and their practices and politics. We could give a shit about either.
Its about once again bashing the politics of the NBA.

I've been bashing China the whole thread mate. Pretty sure other's have too.


Nah its been much more about the "wokeness" of the NBA.


It's been about the NBA kowtowing to a tyrannical government because of money.

It just illustrates plainly that businesses are whores.


Doesn't make them any different than anyone else in that regard.


Of course not.

But much like the WWE and its Saudi Arabia relationship, it's worthy of criticism.


Morey should have been allowed to speak freely. I don't disagree with that. Throughout the career of Yao Ming they in essence prostituted themselves for China. No shock that they'd do it in this instance.

China is a huge market for NBA basketball. Its also a huge market for former players. They aren't going to tamper with that relationship. I don't believe that Stern would have issued a similar statement had he been commissioner. They all however take their cues from the owners anyway so maybe he would've.

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Not on the record they won't. Steve Kerr knows enough about hostile foreign governments as it is.




ohh, that's harsh. But accurate.

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Speaking out against bigotry and injustice are left wing talking points? If you don't speak out against every injustice everywhere then you're a hypocrite? Who decides that? The people who are always silent and who are uncomfortable with social progress?


Okay. It's real heroic to move your All-Star game over a bathroom while stuffing your pockets with yuan and hanging Daryl Morey out to dry. Great social progress!


As a guy who doesn't give a crap about any social progress, how can YOU be critical of someone or an organization that isn't spraying to all fields? It literally impossible to be passionate about every cause or speak out against every single injustice in the world. The truth is, people like you still wouldn't give a shit. You'll just find another target.

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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?

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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?

Nope , too busy cheering on those bathrooms !!

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Speaking out against bigotry and injustice are left wing talking points? If you don't speak out against every injustice everywhere then you're a hypocrite? Who decides that? The people who are always silent and who are uncomfortable with social progress?


Okay. It's real heroic to move your All-Star game over a bathroom while stuffing your pockets with yuan and hanging Daryl Morey out to dry. Great social progress!


As a guy who doesn't give a crap about any social progress, how can YOU be critical of someone or an organization that isn't spraying to all fields? It literally impossible to be passionate about every cause or speak out against every single injustice in the world. The truth is, people like you still wouldn't give a shit. You'll just find another target.


I don't think you give a shit about much either. Other than jamming your opinions down people's throats and screaming "BIGOT!" at anyone who disagrees.

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 Post subject: Re: The NBA
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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?



Nas just told you they don't have time. Who the fuck are you to demand which causes they support. You bigot!

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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?



Nas just told you they don't have time. Who the fuck are you to demand which causes they support. You bigot!

It’s hard to fit ALL activism inbetween the letter opening and coffee drinking

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I don't know why it's hard to call the NBA and guys like Harden out for this.

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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?

Nope, James Harden is getting on his knees so that he can suck those very tiny microscopic Chinese cocks.

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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?


Someone will have his back. I think his owner said something in support of him over the weekend. I doubt if any other owner will however.

There will be a player who will definitely speak out on behalf of Democracy in China. It will be a player that never expects to play in China most likely.

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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?



Nas just told you they don't have time. Who the fuck are you to demand which causes they support. You bigot!


The same guys that call out the players for speaking out on social issues are the same ones that are now criticizing them for "failing" to speak out on social issues. WYC?

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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?



Nas just told you they don't have time. Who the fuck are you to demand which causes they support. You bigot!

It’s hard to fit ALL activism inbetween the letter opening and coffee drinking


I don't think Hong Kong need be a pet cause for anyone associated with the NBA, but like it or not Morey brought it to their door and the official NBA statement is conemptible and the lack of comment by otherwise outspoken advocates for human rights speaks volumes. I'm hoping Kerr will do the right thing. I think he might.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?



Nas just told you they don't have time. Who the fuck are you to demand which causes they support. You bigot!

It’s hard to fit ALL activism inbetween the letter opening and coffee drinking


I don't think Hong Kong need be a pet cause for anyone associated with the NBA, but like it or not Morey brought it to their door and the official NBA statement is conemptible and the lack of comment by otherwise outspoken advocates for human rights speaks volumes. I'm hoping Kerr will do the right thing. I think he might.


The owners are the ones that found it contemptible. Not the players. Criticism should be levied against them. Free Marketeers on here will never do that now will they?

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Did you consider the NBA particularly "woke" when they made the players wear suits so that the paying customers wouldn't think they were looking at pimps and drug dealers on the sidelines whenever they attended games?

Did you think they were "woke" when they turned a blind's eye to Sterling's bigotry and racism for years. Only deciding to do something about it because it became "bad for business"?

Do you think that they are particularly "woke" whenever they decide to fine a player for criticizing the referees?

They may be a tad more progressive than other leagues but that hardly makes them the progressive league.


Most of these guys don't give a shit. The country and the world is changing a little. Guys like MJ and others were afraid to speak out because they saw how activism destroyed or harmed the careers of athletes who came before and even saw how a guy like Chris Jackson (Can't spell his new name) was blackballed out of the league.

LeBron James took a chance. Regardless of how eloquent it was, he put his career on the line and spoke out. Others followed suit and the players and fans got a little power from that. That's why Sterling was finally banned. If not because of the social progress LeBron pushed for it would have been business as usual.

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Hatchetman wrote:
Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?


Someone will have his back. I think his owner said something in support of him over the weekend. I doubt if any other owner will however.

There will be a player who will definitely speak out on behalf of Democracy in China. It will be a player that never expects to play in China most likely.



His owner left him hang out to dry for several days and then made him issue a groveling apology. Why to people cave in to this shit? Does anyone have a pair of balls? Am I the only one that's ever quit a job?

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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?



Nas just told you they don't have time. Who the fuck are you to demand which causes they support. You bigot!


The same guys that call out the players for speaking out on social issues are the same ones that are now criticizing them for "failing" to speak out on social issues. WYC?

That's not how I see it. It's an issue of "convenience", like all limousine liberal issues. When it cuts close to the bone, all bets are off.


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Did you consider the NBA particularly "woke" when they made the players wear suits so that the paying customers wouldn't think they were looking at pimps and drug dealers on the sidelines whenever they attended games?

Did you think they were "woke" when they turned a blind's eye to Sterling's bigotry and racism for years. Only deciding to do something about it because it became "bad for business"?

Do you think that they are particularly "woke" whenever they decide to fine a player for criticizing the referees?

They may be a tad more progressive than other leagues but that hardly makes them the progressive league.


Most of these guys don't give a shit. The country and the world is changing a little. Guys like MJ and others were afraid to speak out because they saw how activism destroyed or harmed the careers of athletes who came before and even saw how a guy like Chris Jackson (Can't spell his new name) was blackballed out of the league.

LeBron James took a chance. Regardless of how eloquent it was, he put his career on the line and spoke out. Others followed suit and the players and fans got a little power from that. That's why Sterling was finally banned. If not because of the social progress LeBron pushed for it would have been business as usual.


They tolerated Sterling's bigotry for decades and only took action when it became apparent that his bigotry was going to adversely effect the bottom line.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Does any player in the NBA have this guy's back? WTF?



Nas just told you they don't have time. Who the fuck are you to demand which causes they support. You bigot!


The same guys that call out the players for speaking out on social issues are the same ones that are now criticizing them for "failing" to speak out on social issues. WYC?

That's not how I see it. It's an issue of "convenience", like all limousine liberal issues. When it cuts close to the bone, all bets are off.


How does Democracy in China effect the average NBA player? Answer is that it doesn't. Its not cutting close to anything. Its the owners that have more to lose and that is why the statement issued.

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Speaking out against bigotry and injustice are left wing talking points? If you don't speak out against every injustice everywhere then you're a hypocrite? Who decides that? The people who are always silent and who are uncomfortable with social progress?


Okay. It's real heroic to move your All-Star game over a bathroom while stuffing your pockets with yuan and hanging Daryl Morey out to dry. Great social progress!


As a guy who doesn't give a crap about any social progress, how can YOU be critical of someone or an organization that isn't spraying to all fields? It literally impossible to be passionate about every cause or speak out against every single injustice in the world. The truth is, people like you still wouldn't give a shit. You'll just find another target.


I don't think you give a shit about much either. Other than jamming your opinions down people's throats and screaming "BIGOT!" at anyone who disagrees.


Other than praying for the return of 1956 for your last few decades of life, what do you really care about? It appears that you spend every moment of your day trying to sell that way of life to everyone who will listen and also trying to make white people fearful of everyone who doesn't think like you. You're lazy and an intellectual coward.

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How does Democracy in China effect the average NBA player? Answer is that it doesn't. Its not cutting close to anything. Its the owners that have more to lose and that is why the statement issued.


the players don't have to say jack shit about Hong Kong. They should be up in arms about what the league did to a fellow employee. The players have all the leverage.

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How does Democracy in China effect the average NBA player? Answer is that it doesn't. Its not cutting close to anything. Its the owners that have more to lose and that is why the statement issued.


the players don't have to say jack shit about Hong Kong. They should be up in arms about what the league did to a fellow employee. The players have all the leverage.


He is in management thus there is less feeling of solidarity where he is concerned.

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He is in management thus there is less feeling of solidarity where he is concerned.


That's bullshit. Management spends 80% of the time kissing these guys' asses.

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It is ironic that he works for Yao Ming's former team. They had to bend over backwards in order to get Yao over here. Made a ton of Concessions with the Chinese Govt in order for him to play here.

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The bigger question is how HASN’T LeBron won a Nobel by now ?

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