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The person bringing up racism is the same idiot on here that always brings up racism. There are people here that always reference the SJW nature of the NBA. Its the only time that they ever talk about the NBA. Its fair to question why this is the only thing about the NBA which seems to concern them. WFR to his credit does attempt to actually talk about the games from time to time. Others here only see the NBA as the second or third incarnation of the Civil Rights Movement. As such it does seem to perturb them for whatever reason.

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Maybe 2-3 games tops.

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I hope a reports follows up in a couple weeks and asks Kerr what he has learned.

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Apparently the Chinese were dissatisfied with Silver's response and have decided to stop showing NBA preseason games.
I guess that he wasn't viewed to be as much as a kiss ass by China as he was by America.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/media/nb ... index.html

CCTV's sports channel said Tuesday that it had "decided to immediately halt" broadcasts of the basketball league's preseason matches in China after it expressed its "strong dissatisfaction" over NBA Commissioner Adam Silver's response to Daryl Morey's tweet. The broadcaster is also reviewing its wider relationship with the NBA.

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Apparently the Chinese were dissatisfied with Silver's response and have decided to stop showing NBA preseason games.
I guess that he wasn't viewed to be as much as a kiss ass by China as he was by America.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/media/nb ... index.html

CCTV's sports channel said Tuesday that it had "decided to immediately halt" broadcasts of the basketball league's preseason matches in China after it expressed its "strong dissatisfaction" over NBA Commissioner Adam Silver's response to Daryl Morey's tweet. The broadcaster is also reviewing its wider relationship with the NBA.

Wait--that doesn't mean that he's not a corporate zombie masquerading as someone with real human empathy, someone who makes sacrifices for other people.


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Apparently the Chinese were dissatisfied with Silver's response and have decided to stop showing NBA preseason games.
I guess that he wasn't viewed to be as much as a kiss ass by China as he was by America.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/media/nb ... index.html

CCTV's sports channel said Tuesday that it had "decided to immediately halt" broadcasts of the basketball league's preseason matches in China after it expressed its "strong dissatisfaction" over NBA Commissioner Adam Silver's response to Daryl Morey's tweet. The broadcaster is also reviewing its wider relationship with the NBA.

Do you think the NBA is handling this correctly? Do you think Morey was wrong?

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 Post subject: Re: The NBA
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Apparently the Chinese were dissatisfied with Silver's response and have decided to stop showing NBA preseason games.
I guess that he wasn't viewed to be as much as a kiss ass by China as he was by America.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/media/nb ... index.html

CCTV's sports channel said Tuesday that it had "decided to immediately halt" broadcasts of the basketball league's preseason matches in China after it expressed its "strong dissatisfaction" over NBA Commissioner Adam Silver's response to Daryl Morey's tweet. The broadcaster is also reviewing its wider relationship with the NBA.

Do you think the NBA is handling this correctly? Do you think Morey was wrong?


I think Morey was correct in his assessment. The only thing i'd question is his right to say it as an employee of the NBA. They conduct a tremendous amount of business with China. More than any other country. The Chinese are business partners with the NBA. He had to or should have known that it could adversely effect their business relationship.

As far as the NBA goes they should have simply placed one of those cheap disclaimers out which distanced them from the comments. Don't try and neuter the guy. Even if they don't happen to support him don't hang him out to dry.

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I think the South Park China thing last week was supposed to be a one-off thing, but after the events of the last day, how can Matt and Trey not go after China again in the coming weeks?



Heck, with Blizzard doing this pathetic shit, I think it's time to do another "Warcraft" episode dealing with China... 8)

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It's pretty embarrassing for the league to shrivel in fear in the face of actual systemic injustice, but it goes to show who really runs the show. Shoe companies are the real owners of the NBA, and you can't disrupt their supply chain by speaking the truth.

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If the NBA truly had an issue with China they would not have gone out of their way to make inroads into the Chinese market over the years. Its not as if the human rights violations committed by China were exactly a secret. They have always excused the human rights violations committed by China. Just like the vast majority of Americans have.

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Apparently the Chinese were dissatisfied with Silver's response and have decided to stop showing NBA preseason games.
I guess that he wasn't viewed to be as much as a kiss ass by China as he was by America.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/media/nb ... index.html

CCTV's sports channel said Tuesday that it had "decided to immediately halt" broadcasts of the basketball league's preseason matches in China after it expressed its "strong dissatisfaction" over NBA Commissioner Adam Silver's response to Daryl Morey's tweet. The broadcaster is also reviewing its wider relationship with the NBA.

Wait--that doesn't mean that he's not a corporate zombie masquerading as someone with real human empathy, someone who makes sacrifices for other people.


He hasn't made a sacrifice. He merely made a statement. I agree with his statement but he hasn't given up anything yet. He merely went off the reservation by making the statement. I don't believe that was necessarily his intent but it definitely appears to be the outcome.

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If the NBA truly had an issue with China they would not have gone out of their way to make inroads into the Chinese market over the years. Its not as if the human rights violations committed by China were exactly a secret. They have always excused the human rights violations committed by China. Just like the vast majority of Americans have.


I would bet that the vast majority of Americans have no clue about Chinese politics or human rights violations.

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I listened to discussion about this on Connor and Bernsie this morning. They were right in sense of what is any company or entity supposed to do regarding China? Or even more so a person? You cannot disconnect from China in any way. There is no practical way to avoid Chinese involvement or production in anything.

My first thought was I wonder how many people that voice such outrage do it from iPhones.

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If the NBA truly had an issue with China they would not have gone out of their way to make inroads into the Chinese market over the years. Its not as if the human rights violations committed by China were exactly a secret. They have always excused the human rights violations committed by China. Just like the vast majority of Americans have.
The NBA gets more money out of the United States than they do China, and they have actively worked towards changing government policies through the withholding of their product.

I thought the bathroom bill was a bad one but this is the problem when they got involved in it.

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i don't know what all the arguing is about. This is complete obvious hypocrisy on the part of the NBA. Their frothing at the mouth during the "stick to sports" silliness and the utter silence regarding China is absolutely hilarious. of course we get why its happening.


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I listened to discussion about this on Connor and Bernsie this morning. They were right in sense of what is any company or entity supposed to do regarding China? Or even more so a person? You cannot disconnect from China in any way. There is no practical way to avoid Chinese involvement or production in anything.

My first thought was I wonder how many people that voice such outrage do it from iPhones.


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i don't know what all the arguing is about. This is complete obvious hypocrisy on the part of the NBA. Their frothing at the mouth during the "stick to sports" silliness and the utter silence regarding China is absolutely hilarious. of course we get why its happening.

As others have said, there used to be an entire radio segment in this town dedicated to such blatant displays of hypocrisy

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You know what they say: "Go woke, get called on twitter for being hypocritical until the real games start and no one will care because Zion made a cool dunk with his arm having electricity on it".

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If the NBA truly had an issue with China they would not have gone out of their way to make inroads into the Chinese market over the years. Its not as if the human rights violations committed by China were exactly a secret. They have always excused the human rights violations committed by China. Just like the vast majority of Americans have.
The NBA gets more money out of the United States than they do China, and they have actively worked towards changing government policies through the withholding of their product.

I thought the bathroom bill was a bad one but this is the problem when they got involved in it.


What exactly is your point? If you think that a boycott of China is going to change "government policies" then you are woefully mistaken. China has the 2nd largest economy on earth. They don't need the NBA. The NBA believed that they needed them. This occurred years ago. The NBA wanted to become global. This occurred years ago. China was instrumental in helping to achieve this.

If we aren't going to push on any other corporate entity (and you haven't) then we shouldn't push on the NBA either. The people currently grandstanding do not give a damn about human rights abuses or democracy in China. Never have. They simply don't like the NBA and hence they want the NBA to lead the charge for something that they aren't willing to do themselves. THey are the real hypocrites.

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Sounds like the CCP is equally, perhaps more upset/jealous that Morey was in Tokyo when he tweeted his benign support for "Freedumb" in HK. They take note that Adam Silver's busy issuing his daily responses to his previous responses from Japan as well:

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If the NBA truly had an issue with China they would not have gone out of their way to make inroads into the Chinese market over the years. Its not as if the human rights violations committed by China were exactly a secret. They have always excused the human rights violations committed by China. Just like the vast majority of Americans have.
The NBA gets more money out of the United States than they do China, and they have actively worked towards changing government policies through the withholding of their product.

I thought the bathroom bill was a bad one but this is the problem when they got involved in it.


What exactly is your point? If you think that a boycott of China is going to change "government policies" then you are woefully mistaken. China has the 2nd largest economy on earth. They don't need the NBA. The NBA believed that they needed them. This occurred years ago. The NBA wanted to become global. This occurred years ago. China was instrumental in helping to achieve this.

If we aren't going to push on any other corporate entity (and you haven't) then we shouldn't push on the NBA either. The people currently grandstanding do not give a damn about human rights abuses or democracy in China. Never have. They simply don't like the NBA and hence they want the NBA to lead the charge for something that they aren't willing to do themselves. THey are the real hypocrites.
The point is that the NBA chose to enter into politics with the bathroom bill by league action.

So to say they've "never cared" doesn't hold water. They certainly care enough to risk losing money in the United States.

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If the NBA truly had an issue with China they would not have gone out of their way to make inroads into the Chinese market over the years. Its not as if the human rights violations committed by China were exactly a secret. They have always excused the human rights violations committed by China. Just like the vast majority of Americans have.
The NBA gets more money out of the United States than they do China, and they have actively worked towards changing government policies through the withholding of their product.

I thought the bathroom bill was a bad one but this is the problem when they got involved in it.


What exactly is your point? If you think that a boycott of China is going to change "government policies" then you are woefully mistaken. China has the 2nd largest economy on earth. They don't need the NBA. The NBA believed that they needed them. This occurred years ago. The NBA wanted to become global. This occurred years ago. China was instrumental in helping to achieve this.

If we aren't going to push on any other corporate entity (and you haven't) then we shouldn't push on the NBA either. The people currently grandstanding do not give a damn about human rights abuses or democracy in China. Never have. They simply don't like the NBA and hence they want the NBA to lead the charge for something that they aren't willing to do themselves. THey are the real hypocrites.
The point is that the NBA chose to enter into politics with the bathroom bill by league action.

So to say they've "never cared" doesn't hold water. They certainly care enough to risk losing money in the United States.


i must have missed where David Stern and Adam Silver have attempted to run for public office. Can you provide evidence as to either entering the political arena?


You nor any of the people currently grandstanding couldn't care less about human rights abuses in China or anywhere else. With that being the case your protestations regarding the responsibility of the NBA rings hollow.

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i must have missed where David Stern and Adam Silver have attempted to run for public office. Can you provide evidence as to either entering the political arena?
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17120170/nba-moving-all-star-game-charlotte-north-carolina-bill
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You nor any of the people currently grandstanding couldn't care less about human rights abuses in China or anywhere else. With that being the case your protestations regarding the responsibility of the NBA rings hollow.
Why do you say I don't care about human rights abuses in China or anywhere else? What gives you that opinion?

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i must have missed where David Stern and Adam Silver have attempted to run for public office. Can you provide evidence as to either entering the political arena?
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17120170/nba-moving-all-star-game-charlotte-north-carolina-bill
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You nor any of the people currently grandstanding couldn't care less about human rights abuses in China or anywhere else. With that being the case your protestations regarding the responsibility of the NBA rings hollow.
Why do you say I don't care about human rights abuses in China or anywhere else? What gives you that opinion?


Because I can never remember you complaining about them. That's why. That is til its time to bash the NBA. You are extremely naive if you believe that the NBA has the power to change the minds of Chinese Govt.

I stated before that I agree with Morey. Don't know why you are continuing to ask senseless questions. Provide examples of you railing against countries for being human rights violators and then maybe your statements will have validity. As it stands now they don't

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