That's just it. I agree with you with all of it except the U.S.'s ability to enforce peace. The U.S. is in no more position to enforce peace over there than they were back in the mid to late 40's. China has become infinitely more powerful since then. The only thing that they can do is boycott or implement sanctions. Neither would do much to cripple China.

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This isn't Argentina. Britain will do as it's told.

Japan is about to lay down carrier hulls, which is actually in specific and direct, violation of an article to their fucking constitution.

It wouldn't be an outright walkover but the USA would pretty handily defeat China even without the assistance of allies.

The worry I have with this situation is that it is quickly escalating to Cold War levels of tension.

But unlike the US and Soviet Union after the Second World War there is no understanding in the Chinese cultural consciousness of how catastrophic the conflict would be. The USSR lost thirty million in the war. They were never going to endure that again. The USA didn't incur anywhere near those types of casualties but it was very aware of the extent of mobilization that was required. Both actors knew the cost of war was too steep even if victory was assured.

China doesn't. Very few living Chinese have any concept of what time at war feels like. They are pumped full of party propaganda and lies that they'll easily commit and aggressive act like sinking a US carrier not being at all aware of the consequences. On the other hand the USA has spent enough time at war in the modern era to be wary of picking new fights, but there is just no doubt it'll respond with overwhelming force if attacked.

Russia & China vs. United States is nothing to dismiss.

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Neither can contest airspace in places they don't have already covered in SAM's. They can't really project power.

Given that the Party leaders have no use for 100-200 million of their subjects except as cannon fodder for the Party's glorification we frighteningly agree.

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Not on Chinese soil they wouldn't. Each time that we have attempted to battle them on Asian soil we got our ass handed to us. China is infinitely more powerful now than they were then.

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I dunno if I'd put too much stock in Putin playing nice with Xi recently. Putin's background goes back to the 80's and 90's when relations between Russia and China were more adversarial. If the US and Japan started in on China from the south doubt Putin would hesitate to move his troops into China's empty-ish northern provinces. Xinjiang and Mongolia which Russia's long coveted as a buffer region btw China and Russia. Eventually maybe taking Tibet as well. He might even sell it the Chinese as helping them protect those regions.

The trade war has had a perhaps inadvertent effect of shifting the Sino-Australian relationship from one where the Aussies were basically dependent on exporting to China to one now where China is just as (if not more) dependent on Australian imports. Its going to be an interesting situation because politically Australia is aligned strongly with the USA but economically we haven't been their largest trading partner for a long time. Still they have orders for one hundred F-35's and, as anyone who has met an Australian will know, culturally there is a much greater fondness towards Americans than Chinese.

Same applies to Southern Africa. But unlike Australia states like Zimbabwe, Tanzania and Moz arent in nearly the position to dictate terms to China as they dont have the USA to fall back on. That'll change soon and I cant even begin to predict how it'll take shape, but I'd expect the spotlight to really shine on places like Angola and the territories that makeup what was Rhodesia/Nyasaland as the US tries to move in. Could get a little nasty since the regional power is in terminal decline and is in no position to intervene elsewhere like they were in Angola and Namibia in years past.

This isn't even remotely close to being true.

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You have no way of "remotely" refuting it. Hint: willful ignorance isn't exactly an excuse

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You are the most willfully ignorant person here. You only argue through misrepresentations. You once said that Germany would have easily beaten the United States during World War 2, then had to retract because you forgot about the ocean separating the countries, and the existence of the US Navy.

When the United States directly fought in China it was a part of an international coalition, which made China sign a trade treaty that gave Western powers whatever they wanted.

The United States never fought China directly since. Mao sent troops during the Korean War, but that was a proxy war. They never declared war on each other, as Truman did not want to start World War 3. What do you think US casualties were vs. Chinese in that confrontation? The war ended in a stalemate btw, but the communist invasion was pushed back.

China sent non-combat assistance during Vietnam. So say the Chinese outclassed the United States military is simply not true. You have this strange desire to trash the American military, and past American military efforts to ridiculous lengthes. You have a view of history taken from Soviet propaganda.

I don't know how anyone can properly assess a Sino-American War because they are nuclear armed powers with intermingled economies. So I don't think it will happen at all, and if it did it would be more trade battles and regional proxy wars. Now that leaders and their families are vulnerable, hot wars, especially with atheist countries is unlikely.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

We took Guam quite easily. Does that count?

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They were afraid that if we sent more people it could capsize.

You continue to reference Germany as if that means something. The only miscalculation was the outcome had it been fought on U.S. soil. Nothing about my assessment changes if it were fought in Europe.

You are the same guy that gave the U.S. credit for defeating the NAZis even tbough it was Russia and not the U.S. that conducted the overwhelming amount of the fighting.
Stop with the gotcha as you continuously embarrass yourself.

As far as U.S. China goes read a damn book and lay off the Ollie North stories episodes.

China handed the U.S. its ass in Korea and it was the U.S. military that was pushed back. Not the Communist. The U.S. decided to retreat after suffering massive casualties along the 38th parallel and thats why the war ended.

As far as Vietnam goes we never wanted to escalate the war (much like Korea) because escalation of the war would force China to become more of a player in it.

Chinese influence in two "proxy" wars helped to not only prop up two second rate armies (as you fallaciously imply) it served to tilt the outcomes.

U.S. failed to a achieve their objectives in each of those two wars. Any notion that they somehow won, again lay off the Ollie North war stories episodes, is silly.

If we engage China on Chinese soil we will not stand a chance.

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What were the objectives of the U.S. in Vietnam and Korea?

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From one of the key people behind World of Warcraft

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Live look at Adam Silver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1hCRBwGAXE

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This is pure gibberish.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

In my opinion there is a potential difference in the China war calculus now. American influence in China. By this I mean the desire of young Chinese people to eat it up at any cost. Unlike other past conflicts once the shit hits the fan can China count on half their people throwing up their hands and saying I rather go to America USA USA USA?

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Cutting off the Chinese from all the Hollywood, video games, fast food, etc. would make them want freedom even more.

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It's kind of funny but we could ruin China economically pretty easily in any actual war. The moment China declares war on us we cancel all debts owed to China and then encourage our allies to do the same. They aren't ever getting that money back either even if they "win" the war.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

And factual. There are easily 3 things that were incorrect about the garbage that you were spewing.

1. We were pushed back at the 38th parallel
2. Mao didn't simply send troops. They actually fought against American soldiers.
3. We don't have to declare something a war in order for it to be a war. We never actually "declared" war in Vietnam either.

You play around with facts a little too much and your mundane points often skew heavily towards propaganda. I prefer to deal in reality. Not "Americanism". One of the primary reasons that this country continues to look foolish in its engagements is because of guys like you that A. attempt to justify every action simply because its the U.S. that is conducting it.

And B. Believes that U.S. might trumps all in every situation. If you believe that the U.S. can take China on in CHina and emerge victorious you are an idiot. History has shown that the U.S. struggled against a relatively weaker China in that part of the world. Now that CHina is the 2nd most powerful nation on Earth what do you think is going to happen. A China that has far more manpower not to mention the homefield advantage



Using Nukes is negligible since both have them and have shown an unwillingness to use them. Nukes (as I tried to explain to you previously) have historically been shown to be a deterrent to war. Even countries that have them are reluctant to use them in times of war. Chances are a war between the U.S. and China will be conventional. If there is mutual destruction in play we both lose. Any statements that I provide will be based upon the war being conventional

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we could probably starve them to death with a naval blockade.

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You would need the Russians as your friends though.

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Top of Reddit right now:

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comme ... t_big_mei/

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I don't really know much about Blizzard's games as WoW, Warcraft, and Starcraft were never really my type of games, but apparently there is now a movement to make Blizzard characters icons of the pro-Democracy movement so that they get banned the same way Winnie the Pooh got banned in China.

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