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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:45 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"Abreu will lead the AL in total bases" - Dr Ken

Did he really say this too?

I don't think so, but he probably at least thought it.

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:46 am

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

IMU wrote:

It is 2017. Has anyone even mentioned total bases in 10 years? You guys want to tell me who led in sacrifice flies too? Which first baseman has the most putouts?

Probably about as long as someone used "singles hitter" as a put down for a 30 home run a year guy.

Is 30 home runs impressive or not?

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

30 home runs in a very home run friendly league. Good enough for 33rd in the league with a bunch of other guys.

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Brick

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:52 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

IMU wrote:

It is 2017. Has anyone even mentioned total bases in 10 years? You guys want to tell me who led in sacrifice flies too? Which first baseman has the most putouts?

Probably about as long as someone used "singles hitter" as a put down for a 30 home run a year guy.

Is 30 home runs impressive or not?

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

30 home runs in a very home run friendly league. Good enough for 33rd in the league with a bunch of other guys.

Not really.

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:58 am

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Abreu had 3 more homeruns than Schwarber in 200 more at bats. Rick must be disappointed

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:00 am

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312player wrote:

Abreu had 3 more homeruns than Schwarber in 200 more at bats. Rick must be disappointed

Schwarber isn't a "singles hitter" either.

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:24 am

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FavreFan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

"Abreu will lead the AL in total bases" - Dr Ken

Did he really say this too?

I don't think so, but he probably at least thought it.

He actually did say it to me. That is, he implied it. He kind of gave me that look--you know that look Dr. Ken's got--and in that look, he said that Abreu would lead the league in TB.

Of course, he might have meant consumption.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:23 am

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312player wrote:

Abreu had 3 more homeruns than Schwarber in 200 more at bats. Rick must be disappointed

Abreu had 100 more hits, an OPS nearly 120 points higher, slugging percentage nearly 100 points higher, and a WAR that was 4.7 higher than the mighty Schwarbs! But Schwarber did have more HRs than Abreu in the minor leagues! :lol:

Take a nap with a plastic bag over your head

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:28 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

312player wrote:

Abreu had 3 more homeruns than Schwarber in 200 more at bats. Rick must be disappointed

Take a nap with a plastic bag over your head

The last part is poor advice. Don't do it.

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:29 am

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FavreFan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

312player wrote:

Abreu had 3 more homeruns than Schwarber in 200 more at bats. Rick must be disappointed

Take a nap with a plastic bag over your head

The last part is poor advice. Don't do it.

Unless you're trying to get rid of the hiccups. Might be overkill but..

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:57 pm

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Honestly, Abreu is really more of a doubles hitter than a singles hitter.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:03 pm

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He is a good hitter. If you have Abreu over Rizzo, you're only sacrificing the smallest amount of offensive.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:45 pm

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IMU wrote:

He is a good hitter. If you have Abreu over Rizzo, you're only sacrificing the smallest amount of offensive.

Nope.

2017 Abreu had a higher avg, OPS, and OPS+. He also had a higher WAR and considering that Rizzo is better with the glove than Abreu, clearly Abreu had the FAR SUPERIOR season at the plate.

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:53 pm

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I don't judge a player based on one season. From 2014-2017, Rizzo has a .030 higher OPS. Abreu had the better offensive 2017 though. I'd still take Rizzo going forward.

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:15 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

He is a good hitter. If you have Abreu over Rizzo, you're only sacrificing the smallest amount of offensive.

Nope.

2017 Abreu had a higher avg, OPS, and OPS+. He also had a higher WAR and considering that Rizzo is better with the glove than Abreu, clearly Abreu had the FAR SUPERIOR season at the plate.

Abreu put up numbers when the Sox were long out of the race. He blew to start the season.

Sell high.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:19 pm

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IMU wrote:

Eh, he ran into a couple. No big deal. You'd rather have Altuve as I've been saying for years.

Altuve has always been the better Jose.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:39 am

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Caller Bobesque.

Altuve is better than 98% of MLB including the entire Cubs and Sox roster. The only guy in town I might take over him is Giolito. Way to pat yourself on the back for going out onto a 4' diameter tree limb.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:55 am

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IMU wrote:

Eh, he ran into a couple. No big deal. You'd rather have Altuve as I've been saying for years.

Altuve has always been the better Jose.

We have both as Sox Altuve will be here by May

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Brick

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:15 pm

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IMU wrote:

Eh, he ran into a couple. No big deal. You'd rather have Altuve as I've been saying for years.

Altuve has always been the better Jose.

Now we know why. Apologies from IMU forthcoming.

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Passepartout

Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:45 pm

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Altive seems to be better there!

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Post subject: Re: Jose Abreu

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:59 pm

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Pretty sad to attack a man because he is respectful toward his wife.

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