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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:45 pm 
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Sandberg hadn't really ever managed....he would have been awful.

all this proves is that Theo doesn't value the manager much in terms of wins / losses. He's not necessarilty. The failure of the last 2 seasons is clearly on the roster construction, not the manager.

If the team has 5 starters and legit 8th, 9th inning pitchers....Maddon, Girardi, Ross, and any other manager look like geniuses.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:56 pm 
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Sandberg hadn't really ever managed....he would have been awful.

all this proves is that Theo doesn't value the manager much in terms of wins / losses. He's not necessarilty. The failure of the last 2 seasons is clearly on the roster construction, not the manager.

If the team has 5 starters and legit 8th, 9th inning pitchers....Maddon, Girardi, Ross, and any other manager look like geniuses.

I've listened to him since last year's September collapse, and I feel he thinks his roster is just fine. I think he feels that an attitude adjustment is required. His team is not "being their best selves". The proof of that will be the changes made to the roster. I predict the changes will all be on the edges.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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NOT a contending pitching staff
Yu Darvish
Kyle Hendricks
Jon Lester
Jose Quintana
Cole Hamels

Craig Kimbrel
Pedro Strop

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:04 pm 
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The pitching is garbage.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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Ross will make them their best selves

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:26 pm 
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Ross will make them their best selves


Crystals & burning sage in the clubhouse? Self help videos on the planes? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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wdelaney72 wrote:
Sandberg hadn't really ever managed....he would have been awful.

all this proves is that Theo doesn't value the manager much in terms of wins / losses. He's not necessarilty. The failure of the last 2 seasons is clearly on the roster construction, not the manager.

If the team has 5 starters and legit 8th, 9th inning pitchers....Maddon, Girardi, Ross, and any other manager look like geniuses.


Sandberg managed the Phillies no?

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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Ross will make them their best selves


Crystals & burning sage in the clubhouse? Self help videos on the planes? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Doesn't have to. He's Grandpa.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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Last year Alex Cora ( huge players manager ) wins World Series . This year Red Sox miss playoffs because their pitching sucks . I think they need Joe Girardi to come in and clean up Dodge City . It’s obvious he was way too lax the players this year

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:49 pm 
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Sandberg managed the Phillies no?
When Ryno was rumored to be the Cubs manager some time ago, he had no experience.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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This is nothing more than a way for Theo to cover his ass if it fails (which it will).

Ross is a front office guy, meaning he's also a Ricketts guy. If it fails, it's not all Theo's fault, as Ricketts is behind the hire.

If Theo were to hire an outisde guy and it failed, it would be another strike against Theo and he would then be on the hot seat.

Also, this is another excuse for Theo to stay loyal to this core of players. They wont be trading anyone other than somebody like Russell, just to make it look like "changes are being made". But this is about Theo not disrupting the core.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:25 pm 
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Leaving Hendricks in when he was done..

Dude has to go.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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Can’t believe they didn’t bring in Jeffries earlier, no way was he giving up a homer that inning.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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Can’t believe they didn’t bring in Jeffries earlier, no way was he giving up a homer that inning.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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The Marlins really have one consistent power hitter and it's Anderson. The only one. And he leaves Hendricks out there against him after the first 2 guys get on.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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The Marlins really have one consistent power hitter and it's Anderson. The only one. And he leaves Hendricks out there against him after the first 2 guys get on.


Corey Dickerson has been a power hitter his whole career. Poor thought Elmhurst Steve.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:59 pm 
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It's likely that with Wick out, Ross was trying to conserve his only decent everyday reliever, and to do that he needed both Hendricks and Darvish to go 7 full both days.

But why the hell do you have Mills and Quintana on a playoff roster if you aren't going to have one of them start the 7th and 8th, and have the other one ready to pitch extra innings if needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
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I didn’t realize that Ross made all 27 outs and only managed to score 1 ( one) run today .

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 Post subject: Re: Fire David Ross
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:16 pm 
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HawaiiYou wrote:
The Marlins really have one consistent power hitter and it's Anderson. The only one. And he leaves Hendricks out there against him after the first 2 guys get on.


Corey Dickerson has been a power hitter his whole career. Poor thought Elmhurst Steve.


lol ya i meant dickerson. not anderson. the guy who hit the hr today.


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