Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Nas wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Trump trying to distract from impeachment and his collusion with Russia and Ukraine by killing terrorists and having the strongest economy in 20 years. It's not gonna work.
It's actually the other way around. You were almost right. Next time you'll get it correct
There was a time when JORR dismissed the accomplishment of Obama killing Bin Laden by saying "Anyone would have done that" and now he's praising the death of a terrorist very few people know and trumpeting the success of a good economy that Trump inherited. Of course he voted for Obama twice and would NEVER support Trump. He's not a supporter, remember?
*I am not calling JORR a racist.Darn right! JORR is just parroting right-wing talking points because he's a champion of objectivity!
What are the "right wing talking points" I'm parroting?
You seem really right wing with your sudden credulity for "intelligence community" narratives. Is it your objectivity, left wing bonafides, or simple Trump hatred that has caused you to become a supporter of secret courts?
Your ongoing assertion that there is a "Deep State coup" attempting to dethrone Trump is most certainly a right-wing talking point, as is your process-based objection to the impeachment inquiry.
As for my beliefs, I certainly don't support "secret courts". But as you know, the Democrats have promised public hearings if/when they decide to move forward with impeachment. If these public hearings are not conducted, I would certainly agree that the impeachment process violates basic concepts of fairness. Incidentally, though, I don't recall your opposition to private depositions when Hillary Clinton was being investigated vis a vis Benghazi. Maybe I'm wrong, though. Can you point me to any posts you made criticizing the Republicans on this issue?
A few things here. I don't know if the ongoing coup attempt against the current president is a "right wing talking point" or not. What I do know is that it is a fact. The corporate media that is staffed with former spies is desperately trying to deny it, of course. I'm surprised that you suddenly accept the idea that the same people who started a war in Iraq and are constantly ratcheting up tensions with Russians are beyond reproach and could not possibly have done what they obviously did. I have to think that new position is influenced strictly by your distaste for Donald Trump.
Second, I was not referring to the hearings currently being held in the House in an attempt to remove the president for some crime no one can actually identify specifically. There is vague constitutional authority for what they're doing regardless of how bad it appears to the American public, most of whom would prefer that their government not conduct its business in the dark. But it's not a real impeachment. We both know that. It's designed to wound the president to the point where whatever mediocrity they run against him has a slight chance to win in 2020. This is the kind of basic political maneuvering that has been done since before the Constitution was even drafted. It doesn't shock me.
The Benghazi hearings were certainly political, but a little bit different in that an American ambassador was killed. Maybe you think a ham-handed phone call to the Ukrainian president is similar. I don't believe most people do. And a most important difference- Hillary Clinton was not elected.
The Left invented the political word "disenfranchisement". Do you think removing the president for reasons that no one can actually clearly articulate disenfranchises the voters? And when he is reelected many will be even angrier and hate their fellow citizens for voting the way they did even more than they hate them now. Does that mean we should take away their votes?
The secret court I was referring to was the FISA court that authorized spying on a political campaign. And if your next question was if I ever railed about FISA courts in the past, the answer is yes. I'm sure I've always been as strongly against the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act as you used to be. I don't know if my posts on the matter still exist as they were probably prior to the changes in the board.
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so I don't think your church would work. Plus I don't like large churches or the Bill Winston's or Joel Osteen's of the world.
