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He’s on with Kap right now and was asked about extending his contract when it’s up in 2 years. His corporate non answer that followed was as about the biggest “ fuck no I’m not staying “ without saying it that I’ve ever heard .

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And why would he? He knows this team needs a fairly major overhaul. That said, if Ricketts had any foresight, you fire Theo and company now because you don't want him evaluating contracts for his own guys. Let someone else give an honest evaluation before handing out ridiculously expensive contracts.

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He’s on with Kap right now and was asked about extending his contract when it’s up in 2 years. His corporate non answer that followed was as about the biggest “ fuck no I’m not staying “ without saying it that I’ve ever heard .
Has he decided if he wants to be President of the United States yet?

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wow, thanks for being specific. Great thread.


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He’s on with Kap right now and was asked about extending his contract when it’s up in 2 years. His corporate non answer that followed was as about the biggest “ fuck no I’m not staying “ without saying it that I’ve ever heard .
Has he decided if he wants to be President of the United States yet?

Completely forgot about that hot take. :lol:

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He’s on with Kap right now and was asked about extending his contract when it’s up in 2 years. His corporate non answer that followed was as about the biggest “ fuck no I’m not staying “ without saying it that I’ve ever heard .
Has he decided if he wants to be President of the United States yet?
If Trump can win, he probably figures why not.

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He has said all along that he believes he should leave a job after 10 years.

He probably should have re upped Joe for another couple of years to finish out his term with him and let the next not GM choose the next coach.

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And why would he? He knows this team needs a fairly major overhaul. That said, if Ricketts had any foresight, you fire Theo and company now because you don't want him evaluating contracts for his own guys. Let someone else give an honest evaluation before handing out ridiculously expensive contracts.



Wtf are you babbling about? Ricketts is a moron, he'll probably hire a search firm to replace Epstein when he walks away.. Say what ya will about bad contracts but the guy has been ridiculously successful here and Boston.

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If he makes a couple of bad off season trades and leaves in a couple years the new guy will have a huge mess to come in to.


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Probably gunning for Commissioner once Manfred flames out.

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And why would he? He knows this team needs a fairly major overhaul. That said, if Ricketts had any foresight, you fire Theo and company now because you don't want him evaluating contracts for his own guys. Let someone else give an honest evaluation before handing out ridiculously expensive contracts.



Wtf are you babbling about? Ricketts is a moron, he'll probably hire a search firm to replace Epstein when he walks away.. Say what ya will about bad contracts but the guy has been ridiculously successful here and Boston.


He won a World Series, I'm truly grateful. But you are deluding yourself if you don't realize he over-evaluated players he traded for and has done a piss poor job of developing pitching. I wouldn't call that ridiculously successful.

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If he makes a couple of bad off season trades and leaves in a couple years the new guy will have a huge mess to come in to.


It's already a mess.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
And why would he? He knows this team needs a fairly major overhaul. That said, if Ricketts had any foresight, you fire Theo and company now because you don't want him evaluating contracts for his own guys. Let someone else give an honest evaluation before handing out ridiculously expensive contracts.


Sizzling hot take. Sound like good dolphin on a good day.


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He’s on with Kap right now and was asked about extending his contract when it’s up in 2 years. His corporate non answer that followed was as about the biggest “ fuck no I’m not staying “ without saying it that I’ve ever heard .



u have a link to this? And the time at which this question was asked?

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He’s on with Kap right now and was asked about extending his contract when it’s up in 2 years. His corporate non answer that followed was as about the biggest “ fuck no I’m not staying “ without saying it that I’ve ever heard .



u have a link to this? And the time at which this question was asked?



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Theo and Jed are tossing thinly veiled digs at Joe's loose ship. Mentioning concern about a lack of accountability, baserunning, mental errors, hands off approach, lack of regimentation. Then Ricketts jabbing at Theo saying that how important player development is and it goes hand in hand with winning and spending. Then saying he'll spend near the top in MLB, but not go deep in luxary tax territory. Implying he's not going to bandaid Theo's mistakes by reckless spending. I thought Kap did a good job backing Theo and Ricketts into a no bs corner the best he could without burning bridges. Theo squirmed as usual. Ricketts is definitely not happy with the team and Theo even though the other side of his mouth he says otherwise.


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Yup. Becoming more and more obvious that 2016 was lightning in a bottle vs a historically weak NL.

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Everyone is underestimating how much good will actually winning the World Series bought Epstein. You could be the Dodgers with elite regular season performances and zero world series trophies to show for it the past five years.


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Everyone is underestimating how much good will actually winning the World Series bought Epstein. You could be the Dodgers with elite regular season performances and zero world series trophies to show for it the past five years.


Yeah but I'd think it would also have bought Maddon the same. It seems clear the issues the Cubs currently have are more Theo's fault than Joe's.

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Everyone is underestimating how much good will actually winning the World Series bought Epstein.
Sox fans tried to tell you this but you wouldn't listen and had to learn it the hard way.

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Caller Bob wrote:
Everyone is underestimating how much good will actually winning the World Series bought Epstein. You could be the Dodgers with elite regular season performances and zero world series trophies to show for it the past five years.

It was supposed to be sustained success with multiple titles. Even the word Dynasty was kicked around a bit.

That seems quite far from actually happening.

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Everyone is underestimating how much good will actually winning the World Series bought Epstein. You could be the Dodgers with elite regular season performances and zero world series trophies to show for it the past five years.


Yeah but I'd think it would also have bought Maddon the same. It seems clear the issues the Cubs currently have are more Theo's fault than Joe's.


Theo wanted his minimum wage "yes man".


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Everyone is underestimating how much good will actually winning the World Series bought Epstein. You could be the Dodgers with elite regular season performances and zero world series trophies to show for it the past five years.

It was supposed to be sustained success with multiple titles. Even the word Dynasty was kicked around a bit.

That seems quite far from actually happening.


Pretty sure I said a year or so ago it's very possible they may only win 1.


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Yup. Becoming more and more obvious that 2016 was lightning in a bottle vs a historically weak NL.


Don’t forget Arrietta’s “special medicine”.

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Yup. Becoming more and more obvious that 2016 was lightning in a bottle vs a historically weak NL.


Don’t forget Arrietta’s “special medicine”.


Dodgers were pretty strong, not sure you can consider them historically weak. If the Indians had a healthy Denny Salazar, Cubs might have lost in the series.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
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Yup. Becoming more and more obvious that 2016 was lightning in a bottle vs a historically weak NL.


Don’t forget Arrietta’s “special medicine”.


Dodgers were pretty strong, not sure you can consider them historically weak. If the Indians had a healthy Denny Salazar, Cubs might have lost in the series.

It is just Frank and mike....they say things like that to try and pretend that the Cubs didn't win...it still gets under their skin :lol:

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Some of you have terrible listening skills.

Theo has been very very straightforward and honest in his assessments. And if you don’t think so you’re incredibly biased and/or fail to understand a big part of his job is to be a politician at times.

Name 5 GMs in the sport you’d rather have and why...


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Theo walked back the "10 Year" deal a while ago. He specifically said that wasn't a fixed number. I think he's sticking around for the next WS appearance.

I do think he wants ownership.

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Listen to the Kap/Ricketts/Theo interviews. Kap asks all right questions now that he won't be with Cubs channel. Mac and Parkins know there are lines in the sand that can't be crossed with Ricketts or Theo. It's almost like it's a scripted interview. Parkins gets scared and is sheepishly quiet for a lot the time.


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Everyone is underestimating how much good will actually winning the World Series bought Epstein. You could be the Dodgers with elite regular season performances and zero world series trophies to show for it the past five years.

It was supposed to be sustained success with multiple titles. Even the word Dynasty was kicked around a bit.

That seems quite far from actually happening.

Welp we got on in the last decade so I'm cool.

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