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If you're migrating from Playstation Vue how is SlingTV?


Sling is fine but it doesn’t have NBC Sports Chicago.


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We’re constantly working to provide you with the best service at the best value, with the greatest flexibility. Unfortunately, NBC Sports Chicago has made the deliberate decision to block your access to their channel. They have made unreasonable demands, and we refuse to impose those demands on you, our customer.

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What's going to happen to all the services when the Cubs have their new channel?

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What's going to happen to all the services when the Cubs have their new channel?


Marquee has an agreement with ATT but nothing with Comcast or Direct TV unless I missed it.

I can’t imagine Marquee will be on Direct TV/Sling if NBC Sports Chicago is not. I wonder if at some point both channels will be on their add-on sports package.

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What's going to happen to all the services when the Cubs have their new channel?


Marquee has an agreement with ATT but nothing with Comcast or Direct TV unless I missed it.

I can’t imagine Marquee will be on Direct TV/Sling if NBC Sports Chicago is not. I wonder if at some point both channels will be on their add-on sports package.

The Cubs are asking for too much money. Marquee is going to become SportsVision for the Flubs.

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What's going to happen to all the services when the Cubs have their new channel?


Marquee has an agreement with ATT but nothing with Comcast or Direct TV unless I missed it.

I can’t imagine Marquee will be on Direct TV/Sling if NBC Sports Chicago is not. I wonder if at some point both channels will be on their add-on sports package.

The Cubs are asking for too much money. Marquee is going to become SportsVision for the Flubs.


I hope you are right. I would enjoy seeing the Cubs and Marquee fail miserably.

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What's going to happen to all the services when the Cubs have their new channel?


Marquee has an agreement with ATT but nothing with Comcast or Direct TV unless I missed it.

I can’t imagine Marquee will be on Direct TV/Sling if NBC Sports Chicago is not. I wonder if at some point both channels will be on their add-on sports package.

The Cubs are asking for too much money. Marquee is going to become SportsVision for the Flubs.


I hope you are right. I would enjoy seeing the Cubs and Marquee fail miserably.

Plus they are charging too much because you can just stream for free!

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I don't get why Comcast would carry Marquee. Their financial partners, Blackhawks, White Sox, and Bulls would certainly object. Especially the White Sox. They stand to gain greatly as they are in direct competition with the Cub.


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I don't get why Comcast would carry Marquee. Their financial partners, Blackhawks, White Sox, and Bulls would certainly object. Especially the White Sox. They stand to gain greatly as they are in direct competition with the Cub.

Fans aren't going to change fandom based on what their current TV provider carries. They will change TV providers.

This isn't the catalyst that spring boards the White Sox and Blackhawks into being the most popular teams in town.

Cubs and Bears content on Marquee will win out. Comcast is going to carry this channel.

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Comcast is going to carry this channel.


Pretty much, this. I don't care either way, but if it comes down to the last second for the deal, I'm going to enjoy online meltdowns from Cubs fans (not the smart ones) on Facebook.

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I don't get why Comcast would carry Marquee. Their financial partners, Blackhawks, White Sox, and Bulls would certainly object. Especially the White Sox. They stand to gain greatly as they are in direct competition with the Cub.

Fans aren't going to change fandom based on what their current TV provider carries. They will change TV providers.

This isn't the catalyst that spring boards the White Sox and Blackhawks into being the most popular teams in town.

Cubs and Bears content on Marquee will win out. Comcast is going to carry this channel.

LOL "Bears content"... :roll:

At most Marquee can get preseason games, but those are typically played or replayed on NFL Network so that won't swing anyone.

NFL teams (unlike the other leagues) don't make their own TV deals. People won't give two fucks about whatever Bears content Marquee provides because every game will still be on Fox or CBS plus the prime time games on NBC or ESPN.

People won't change fandom based upon TV availability, but younger fans who just start watching will pick their fandom based upon what's available to watch. Once again, look at Chicago fandoms pre and post Einhorn's failed SportsVision.

Very few people are going to sign up for ATT just for Marquee. They'll pirate it before they do that, but that won't help the Cubs bottom line.

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LOL "Bears content"... :roll:

At most Marquee can get preseason games, but those are typically played or replayed on NFL Network so that won't swing anyone.

NFL teams (unlike the other leagues) don't make their own TV deals. People won't give two fucks about whatever Bears content Marquee provides because every game will still be on Fox or CBS plus the prime time games on NBC or ESPN.

People won't change fandom based upon TV availability, but younger fans who just start watching will pick their fandom based upon what's available to watch. Once again, look at Chicago fandoms pre and post Einhorn's failed SportsVision.

Very few people are going to sign up for ATT just for Marquee. They'll pirate it before they do that, but that won't help the Cubs bottom line.


We're not talking about televising games. We're talking about shows interviewing players. We're talking about 'inside Halas Hall.' We're talking pre- and post-games. Access you don't get on other channels.

Chicago is a Bears town. Fans will eat it up.

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LOL "Bears content"... :roll:

At most Marquee can get preseason games, but those are typically played or replayed on NFL Network so that won't swing anyone.

NFL teams (unlike the other leagues) don't make their own TV deals. People won't give two fucks about whatever Bears content Marquee provides because every game will still be on Fox or CBS plus the prime time games on NBC or ESPN.

People won't change fandom based upon TV availability, but younger fans who just start watching will pick their fandom based upon what's available to watch. Once again, look at Chicago fandoms pre and post Einhorn's failed SportsVision.

Very few people are going to sign up for ATT just for Marquee. They'll pirate it before they do that, but that won't help the Cubs bottom line.


We're not talking about televising games. We're talking about shows interviewing players. We're talking about 'inside Halas Hall.' We're talking pre- and post-games. Access you don't get on other channels.

Chicago is a Bears town. Fans will eat it up.

yeah no one is switching to ATT TV and the contracts they bind you to for that shit. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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IMU wrote:
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LOL "Bears content"... :roll:

At most Marquee can get preseason games, but those are typically played or replayed on NFL Network so that won't swing anyone.

NFL teams (unlike the other leagues) don't make their own TV deals. People won't give two fucks about whatever Bears content Marquee provides because every game will still be on Fox or CBS plus the prime time games on NBC or ESPN.

People won't change fandom based upon TV availability, but younger fans who just start watching will pick their fandom based upon what's available to watch. Once again, look at Chicago fandoms pre and post Einhorn's failed SportsVision.

Very few people are going to sign up for ATT just for Marquee. They'll pirate it before they do that, but that won't help the Cubs bottom line.


We're not talking about televising games. We're talking about shows interviewing players. We're talking about 'inside Halas Hall.' We're talking pre- and post-games. Access you don't get on other channels.

Chicago is a Bears town. Fans will eat it up.

:roll: :roll:

I can't wait until Chicago Bears all access makes it to my television screen.

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LOL "Bears content"... :roll:

At most Marquee can get preseason games, but those are typically played or replayed on NFL Network so that won't swing anyone.

NFL teams (unlike the other leagues) don't make their own TV deals. People won't give two fucks about whatever Bears content Marquee provides because every game will still be on Fox or CBS plus the prime time games on NBC or ESPN.

People won't change fandom based upon TV availability, but younger fans who just start watching will pick their fandom based upon what's available to watch. Once again, look at Chicago fandoms pre and post Einhorn's failed SportsVision.

Very few people are going to sign up for ATT just for Marquee. They'll pirate it before they do that, but that won't help the Cubs bottom line.


We're not talking about televising games. We're talking about shows interviewing players. We're talking about 'inside Halas Hall.' We're talking pre- and post-games. Access you don't get on other channels.

Chicago is a Bears town. Fans will eat it up.

Not in the days of that stuff being online.

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This is why Sinclair buying WGN was the original centerpiece. Because there was no way that any Chicagoland provider was going to not have WGN in the basic tier, which was the insanely large hammer needed for Marquee.

The whispers about "oh well the money won't flow in from Marquee in year 1 or 2" didn't start until after the FCC shot down the WGN purchase.

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Will Mitch request that they turn off Marquee when it plays the inside Halas Hall show?

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Will Mitch request that they turn off Marquee when it plays the inside Halas Hall show?
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Will Mitch request that they turn off Marquee when it plays the inside Halas Hall show?
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The average Chicago Bears fan that does not post daily on an internet forum does not consume their sports coverage via the internet, and they've never considered cutting cable.

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The average Chicago Bears fan that does not post daily on an internet forum does not consume their sports coverage via the internet, and they've never considered cutting cable.

Even 90 year olds use the internet now. Having Bears players interviewed on the Cubs network will not get anyone excited.

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The average Chicago Bears fan that does not post daily on an internet forum does not consume their sports coverage via the internet, and they've never considered cutting cable.
Oh. So like 1% of STH and like 3% of the overall fanbase.

That'll program the offseason!

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The average Chicago Bears fan that does not post daily on an internet forum does not consume their sports coverage via the internet, and they've never considered cutting cable.

Even 90 year olds use the internet now. Having Bears players interviewed on the Cubs network will not get anyone excited.

Every day I deal with technical limitations of my company's core clients and customers, specifically the inability to use computers, tablets, phones or the internet. And the overlap between them and 'blue collar football fan' is significant.

You're a programmer. You may not have your finger on the pulse of this one.

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The average Chicago Bears fan that does not post daily on an internet forum does not consume their sports coverage via the internet, and they've never considered cutting cable.

Even 90 year olds use the internet now. Having Bears players interviewed on the Cubs network will not get anyone excited.

Every day I deal with technical limitations of my company's core clients and customers, specifically the inability to use computers, tablets, phones or the internet. And the overlap between them and 'blue collar football fan' is significant.

You're a programmer. You may not have your finger on the pulse of this one.
It's not hard to find player interviews if you really want, and if the goal of the Cubs network is to get old people to watch Bears interviews then it's going to fail.

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The average Chicago Bears fan that does not post daily on an internet forum does not consume their sports coverage via the internet, and they've never considered cutting cable.

Even 90 year olds use the internet now. Having Bears players interviewed on the Cubs network will not get anyone excited.

Every day I deal with technical limitations of my company's core clients and customers, specifically the inability to use computers, tablets, phones or the internet. And the overlap between them and 'blue collar football fan' is significant.

You're a programmer. You may not have your finger on the pulse of this one.


Is this an admission that someone on a fast track is dealing with people in the slow lane?

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Our customers have money to spend, but don't know how to spend it using the internet.

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LOL "Bears content"... :roll:

At most Marquee can get preseason games, but those are typically played or replayed on NFL Network so that won't swing anyone.

NFL teams (unlike the other leagues) don't make their own TV deals. People won't give two fucks about whatever Bears content Marquee provides because every game will still be on Fox or CBS plus the prime time games on NBC or ESPN.

People won't change fandom based upon TV availability, but younger fans who just start watching will pick their fandom based upon what's available to watch. Once again, look at Chicago fandoms pre and post Einhorn's failed SportsVision.

Very few people are going to sign up for ATT just for Marquee. They'll pirate it before they do that, but that won't help the Cubs bottom line.


We're not talking about televising games. We're talking about shows interviewing players. We're talking about 'inside Halas Hall.' We're talking pre- and post-games. Access you don't get on other channels.

Chicago is a Bears town. Fans will eat it up.


How much of a demand is there for those types of shows? We already know the statistics about the low number of subscribers who watch multiple games a week on RSNs. The number of people that desire these player interview shows cannot be enough to move the needle for Marquee.

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