I'm not sure you've ever driven by the houses that they live in if you truly believe that.

Why do people drive Range Rovers when a Ford does the same job for much cheaper?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

They'll drop $250k and lie about residency to get into the Payton's of the world.

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GO BEARS!!!

because the Ford doesn't do the same job

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And men have lost their reason.

Really? I mean it's fine that you don't care about that.

But do you know how many people running the world first met at places like Andover, Exeter, St. Paul's, Lawrenceville, or Horace Mann? Do you think they're running the world because they're smarter than everyone else?

All you have to do is look at the list of alumni from a place like St. Ignatius and the connections are obvious.

Also, we all understand the social implications of these schools. A bunch of us attended Catholic high schools. But Peeps and pittmike and I aren't as arrogant about it as you and dolphin. We all know the hierarchy.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

I think it would be foolish not to consider all benefits.

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GO BEARS!!!

We have sent 4 kids to three different Catholic High Schools.

We have sent three thru public high school.

2 of the 3 that went to public schools have worked for, or presently work with, contacts that they made in high school.

The three kids who are out of Catholic high school, have never had a professional relationship based upon their school attendance.

I highly doubt that they ever will.

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That's not a benefit to some people.

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I grew up in the suburbs and I don't even remember the school ever being mentioned. There were a few suburban Catholic schools though that got mentioned but I left Chicago for college and have barely lived back in the area since.

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If we're paying for an education based on future earnings projections then I think your network is HUGE.

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GO BEARS!!!

It gets you to the exact same place at the end of the trip.

A range rover is not a decision made based on practicality.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Here is my observation as a parent of both public and private school kids where I think the public school is a superior education:

I value catholic education. Sure the catechism can be reproduced. The home learning can reinforce the faith equally. However, there is simply a difference in the all encompassing way the children are instructed (mind you, the public school teachers are generally of the same faith as well) and its mission. I guess that is subjective and that which cannot be measured should be rejected.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I'm proud of where i went to school. I would hope that you are as well.

I had to pay for my high school education. Which may or may not be something you all had to do. Which enhanced my experience because I had a lot riding on myself to get through it.


But comparing St Ignatius to Exeter or Andover is quite a stretch.

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so does walking

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Correct, but not all parents are paying for that reason.

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Isn't that mostly about the social circles that already exist? If you are the kid of a CEO of a $200 million dollar company in Chicago you are spending your whole life with rich kids no matter what school you go to.

To me, it seems like the Catholic schools of Chicago try and sell the idea that you'll have a secret handshake with people you don't otherwise know in the area.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

there is an Ignatius alumni association of new York and I bet you would be surprised about its membership.

but really, I was just messing with you

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

You may need to get a better Ford if it's the same as walking.

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No they don't.

I've been going to open houses recently. They all begin in the chapel

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

No.

JORR is trying to sell you on a secret handshake that none of us are aware of.

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and you may need to talk to Goff about your Range Rover if you think its the same as a Ford

I drive some pretty humble cars and I'll often say to myself how they are no different than the luxury. I drove a luxury for a week and its like being kicked out of paradise, especially in extreme weather

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I wouldn't go quite that far but when I talk to prospective students, networking is not at the top of the list of points. It may not even be top 5. But it does get brought up.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

The point is that it isn't a decision based on value, but it is based on not caring about the price difference. That's why asking why a rich person would drop (whatever money it costs for Catholic school so you don't argue with me about it) doesn't really mean much.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Come on. It's more than just pride. We all know that there is a cachet that St. Ignatius and Fenwick have that isn't equaled by Mt. Carmel or Gordon Tech. I don't begrudge you your education. I probably have more connections in machine shops and garages than you do.

I'm not comparing St. Ignatius to Andover, but it functions in a similar manner on a local level.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

I think the discussion needs to be bifurcated because both points traditionally are a burr in Boilers bottom and they end up getting combined:

-private education
-catholic education

I might not pay for private education. I would still pay for education.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I went there because they had chicks. St. Ben's, St. Greg's, a pagan school, or Ignatius at the time. A no-brainer.

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I hear it more from parents than I do from kids.

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This goes to my point. A lot of people even in the Chicago suburbs wouldn't even know the hierarchy of these schools. It certainly isn't going to make a big difference if you leave the area outside of maybe Illinois politics.

Locally, it probably makes a difference, but locally the same thing is at least somewhat true for the higher rated public schools. I'm going to guess you make some good connections at the best CPS school too.

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I disagree.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

That's right!

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of course

kids don't know shit

they want to go to school with their friends

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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