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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:18 am 
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looks like they shitcanned the dump in chase offense, so maybe this team will be watchable, the defense still sucks though.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Looks like the defense is so bad that Kid Coach decided "fuck it, first to six wins every night" and is turning Kane, Strome, and the rest of the all-offense players loose as if it every game is an All-Star game.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Scoring and goaltending with nothing in between, just add goons and we're the '80s Flyers.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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How did the defense get so bad?


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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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How did the defense get so bad?

Seabrook got fat, Keith had a torn meniscus removed which is the Faustian bargain of joints, and Bowman traded Niklas Hjalmarsson for magic beans. Remember that the defense was bad all the way back to the 2015 Final, when it was Keith/Seabrook/Hjalmarsson/Oduya/prayers, and Stan never made it better, only worse.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Props to Crow for playing his ass off last night.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Curious Hair wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
How did the defense get so bad?

Seabrook got fat, Keith had a torn meniscus removed which is the Faustian bargain of joints, and Bowman traded Niklas Hjalmarsson for magic beans. Remember that the defense was bad all the way back to the 2015 Final, when it was Keith/Seabrook/Hjalmarsson/Oduya/prayers, and Stan never made it better, only worse.

I started typing something similar to this....but stopped. I'm glad I did cause you explained it better.
I never pretend to be a hockey expert, but even I know the playoff game is drastically different from the regular season game. The 2016, 2017 one round playoff appearances clearly showcased the decline in the defense. Toews declining to 2nd line skill level didn't help either. The Hammer trade was the final nail in the coffin.
Keith is older. Seabrook got really old, slow, and bad really fast. Hammer was traded and not replaced with anythig close to his skill level. This is the 5th season since the last cup and those 2 names are still there....they've found nothing to re-stock the defense. it's kind of important.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Someone really needs to ask Bowman on what the fuck be was thinking paying guys till they were 40


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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Curious Hair wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
How did the defense get so bad?

Seabrook got fat, Keith had a torn meniscus removed which is the Faustian bargain of joints, and Bowman traded Niklas Hjalmarsson for magic beans. Remember that the defense was bad all the way back to the 2015 Final, when it was Keith/Seabrook/Hjalmarsson/Oduya/prayers, and Stan never made it better, only worse.


Magic beans is a good one. :lol: Love you!


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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Caller Bob wrote:
Someone really needs to ask Bowman on what the fuck be was thinking paying guys till they were 40



I think that has more to do with his boss. Probably the reason Crawford is the "starter" right now.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Caller Bob wrote:
How did the defense get so bad?


Kirby Dach should be a nice player.

BUT

Bowen Byram was still the pick. Colorado sent him down for seasoning this season, but he could easily be playing for the Hawks right now. 14pts in 18 games as a defenseman in the whl so far. Dach has 6pts for the Hawks.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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3 and 3 in 12 on bottom-six duty isn't bad for an 18-year-old. I'd have to cross-check those numbers with Jordan Staal's rookie season to see if he's about where he should be for a third overall who's not quite expected to be a franchise player.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Someone really needs to ask Bowman on what the fuck be was thinking paying guys till they were 40

Keith & Hossa were circumventions of the cap. You knew the end wouldn't be pretty

The issue is Toews and Seabrook are performing at a quarter of their contracts. That's a lot of dead money.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Kirkwood wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Someone really needs to ask Bowman on what the fuck be was thinking paying guys till they were 40

Keith & Hossa were circumventions of the cap. You knew the end wouldn't be pretty

The issue is Toews and Seabrook are performing at a quarter of their contracts. That's a lot of dead money.

Yeah, no one can complain about the Keith contract as you had him below $6 million for his Norris winning years.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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The difference between Hammer and Murphy since their trade has not been that great.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Which booths do you like? And don't say Dallas, you can't shit on Olczyk and praise Daryl Reaugh, THEY ARE THE SAME GOOFY DUMBASS


It’s not about liking different booths. It’s about not agreeing that Ed and Pat are better than 90% of local crews.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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TV crews and radio crews should have different styles. I prefer the radio broadcast. But that's partially because I usually only listen to the Sunday night games and I use it to chill out and I don't want to focus on a screen when I'm going to be looking at a laptop display for the next five days.

Pat's 333 shtick has gotten old, Edzo is not great after his illness, and nobody is ever harshly criticized. I didn't like Troy at first, but he gives a balanced effort and has a little bit of Doug Buffone and Norm Van Lier in him.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Btw never had a chance to thank the Hawks for knocking Crosby out for six weeks minimum sports hernia (vagina) surgery.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Btw never had a chance to thank the Hawks for knocking Crosby out for six weeks minimum sports hernia (vagina) surgery.

The hockey world owes the Blackhawks a lot for make the diving bitch sit out.

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The difference between Hammer and Murphy since their trade has not been that great.

Um no


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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Hjalmarsson in Phoenix:
17-18: 48 gp, 1G 8A, 2.1/73.1 point shares
18-19: 82 gp, 0G 10A, 4.2/84.4 point shares
19-20: 4 gp, 1G 0A, 0.4/24.5 point shares (he broke his leg blocking a slapshot and is out till February, that's our Hammer)

Murphy in Chicago:
17-18: 76 gp, 2G 12A, 2.7/81.2 point shares
18-19: 52 gp, 5G 8A, 3.0/83.7 point shares
19-20: 6 gp, 0G 0A, 0.1/19.1 point shares

Mark both as incomplete for this season. Murphy was a little more valuable to the '18 Hawks than Hammer was to the '18 Yotes, but Hjalmarsson was significantly more valuable to his team last year than Murphy to his, enough to come out ahead since the trade. Of course, both teams have been out of the playoffs the whole time, so what does any of it matter, anyway, but lo and behold, the Hawks are worse off for having traded the most important stay-at-home defenseman on three championship teams.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019-20 Season
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Alright, Saturday night hockey game...hope they shut down those inbred redneck fans.

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Nice start tonight...

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Great to see them playing competitive hockey. We need one Chicago team to do that, at least.

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Seabrook scores a gift of a goal after Lehner stands tall...3-0 Hawks

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Outstanding, Kampf makes it 4-0 and Rinne is pulled halfway through the second.

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Hawks kicking the Preds' teeth in through 40 and Lehner is still already at 26/26. This team.

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