6th in the NBA in scoring
3rd in assists
double teamed more than any player in the league
playing all season without 2nd and 3rd best player on the team

and despite all that we have this.....

So go ahead and keep up your weak trolling where you show up every blue moon to talk about a bad shooting game Trae had (even though you don't even know what tfg% is.

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Notice how He never ever references "Lonzo is going to be a stud" Ball anymore. Even during those rare instances in which he actually plays? He is all in on Trae after being all in for Lonzo for the better part of 2 seasons. That shit has blown up on him big time so now he has shifted the same shit over to the Trae. "Everyone is a Bum" except Trae. Fire the roster keep Trae. Same shit. When it is all said and done this kid is nothing more than a guy that puts up numbers on a losing ass team. They will continue to be that as long as his non defense bad shot taking ass is the captain of the ship but I will continue to allow No Great Shakes champion his cause until he has worn himself out with exhaustion.

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is it ever possible for you to discuss one thing without referencing 15 other discussions ?

Is it ever possible to get off Shakes dick? The over the top love of Trae while playing for a losing ass team should be off putting to guys that claim to value that sort of thing. These (you included) are the same clowns that just can't get enough of bashing guys that actually impact winning (namely Carmelo) He backs two guys that are chronic losers and yet I have yet to hear ever say shit about it. Or Lonzo flopping either. You are a classic dick rider just like a few of the other dopes on here that profess and feign objectivity.

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Shakes- check
Carmelo- check
Lonzo- check
Did you forget to mention Thibs ?

What an idiot. You're complaining about me discussing Trae Young in a Trae Young Thread.


You're also complaining about me responding to that idiot No Great Shakes even as its apparent that he took another of his silly ass shots.

This even as he claims and has claimed to have me on ignore for the better part of 2 years now. Its obvious he doesn't he simply wants immunity from being labeled a dumbass.

And as is per usual you're here to kiss his ass. Hope you like the taint.

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The Atlanta Hawks are 33-62 since Trae Young has been on the team.
Last year he ranked 58th out of 74 PGs in RPM.
His Offensive Rating last season was 107 and his Defensive rating was 117

This year will all of the "great" (Told just last week that he is in the MVP discussion) things that he is doing His offensive/ratings are still showing a negative balance.

Offensive rating 110
Defensive rating 114.

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The Atlanta Hawks, owners of the league's worst offense (per Cleaning The Glass) have scored a perfectly fine 108.4 points per 100 possessions with Trae Young on the court and a miserable 89.6 per 100 without him (per NBA.com).


-per CBS sportsline article


Things are only gonna get worse with news that Huerter is going to be out for 5 weeks instead of 2. Collins still suspended and now even Jabari Parker is questionable for tonight.

To keep things in perspective, if Giannis was on the Hawks he would have the second best 3pt shooting % on the team behind Trae.

Absolutely amazing that Trae is 3rd in the league in assists despite having not a single 3 point shooter to pass to. Not to mention lack of PnR rim runners who can finish.

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Another game another blowout. Trae Young 20 shots for 18 points.

I'm sure we will hear how his teammates aren't shit and "he is the most double teamed guy in the league. Again.

In teams are simply adjusting to the high screen roll that Pierce runs every play with Trae in the game

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He was a minus 31 tonight! And the game wasn't a blowout till the end that's the crazy thing.

Hunter, Parker and even Reddish actually had all very good games tonight, but you are right LTG, No Great Shakes will whine about "zero support" around poor Trae Young.

Mello like

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

wow Reddish had a good game !! Should we pencil him for the all-star game ?

Melo made the playoffs his first two seasons. Want to place a wager as to whether this kid does or doesn't? This would be very UnMelo like

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

3 for 12 and 9 points. Thoroughly outplayed by the immortal Bruce Brown tonight.

Teams have made an adjustment to the rather predictable high screen roll that Pierce runs on every possession.

Trapping it as opposed to switching on every possession now.

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What excuse will No Great Shakes make for Trae "No Great Shots" Young?

Other players stink. He has no help. Yadda Yadda Yadda.

Meanwhile he has the worst plus minus of any of the starters and his defense is getting worse by the second. During one stretch Brown ran off 9 straight and was blowing by him at will.

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Hawks are next to last in the league in 3 pt shooting and 4th in points given up. You can get into the weeds about the high screens and Trae's bad shooting(of late), but in the NBA you have to hit 3pt shots and you have to play defense.

He is both their best player and by far the worst defender in the league. He may be the worst defender that i have ever seen.

He doesn't even attempt to guard people. He is going to have to start beating his primary defender without the benefit of a screen. Don't if he can consistently.

Also. Truly great players don't need other players to make them great players. They need good to great players to win championships.

If we are going to constantly moan and groan about who he is and isn't playing with then he .ust be all that good.

If he were playing with better teammates his overall stats would be worse because he wouldn't have the ball so much. He has one the highest usage rates in the league. Harden level almost.

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Of that I have no doubt. He has, he does, and he will. He misses Collins. There are guys on his team that can't catch his passes because there are times they don't see them coming. Collins always saw them. Is it possible that you could step back and watch 5 guys 22 and under grow together? Too much to ask?

No problem with that as long as the hyperbolic "MVP" talk dissipates. He isn't a bust. But he is nowhere near the best 21 year old player i have ever seen either. The players he is currently playing with are also nowhere worse than what Doncic had last year and outside of Porzingus what they have this year

You know a game changer when you see him. He ain't that. He isn't a bust so i will admit i'm wrong on that. He also isn't elite either. Don't think he ever will be either.

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30/10/10, second career triple double. Held his team tight with Toronto down to the wire.

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I think the light bulb in Hunter's head clicked on. But goddam, will somebody guard? Anybody? And Trae is back to not even trying.

He has never tried. In a little more than a year i have yet to see him apply pressure to any guard that he is matched up against. Not one. When have you ever seen him pressure anyone?

I know i haven't. Pierce subs him out early (especially against top tier points) so that he can have him matched up against backups all the time. He pulls him early (4-5 minutes in) so that he can bring him back late first early 2nd in order to play against backups.

He is the worst defensive player that i have ever seen.

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I think silver lining from all these injuries/suspensions is going to be the accelerated development of Hunter. He's starting to be consistently good. Hunter guards people. Reddish was guarding as well. That's about it. Hawks wonder boy GM made a big mistake gambling on Alex Len being good enough to carry the load at center. He's been awful. Damien Jones tries, but he has negative bbiq and is only good for the occasional dive to the hoop for the alley oop. Fernando too raw to make a difference. Tons of cap room, Shenck should've gotten more help at center this off season.

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Siakim was eating Hunter and spitting him out in the 4th. NO ONE was trying. They could have won that game with a little defensive effort.

49 for Trae tonight. Almost beat Indiana by himself, but was let down by idiot teammate Bumbry who tried to do it himself with 15 seconds left in OT rather than hold up on the break and wait for Trae.

Not bad for a bust.


We won't see Caller Bob in this thread for at least a week.

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