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A 14-year-old freshman at Naperville Central High School has been charged with two counts of felony hate crime and one count of misdemeanor disorderly conduct for a racist post last week on Craigslist.

This may be a reason why hate crime statistics show increases.

That's a good point. Are they increases in accused hate crimes or successfully prosecuted hate crimes?

I still don't know what the hate crime here was, and I am not even totally sure what the crime was. What was it? Endangering a minor? I could see that....


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Seems like a gross overaction by the town and district attorney and they're trying to make an example of the kid.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Seems like a gross overaction by the town and district attorney and they're trying to make an example of the kid.

Won't someone think of the poor little racist shitheads.


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Baby Jesus, help me...

When I was in 8th grade, some douchebag wrote "Kill All Jews" on a desk. Now, my junior high school was 90% Jewish students and 70% Jewish faculty, so assuming it was a student and not a custodian, that limited the number of kids to about 25 over the course of the day. These were the types of late 70s desks that were basically moving table/chair combinations, so you could make study circles and the like, so even though your place in the classroom was the same every day, the desk changed at the custodian's whims as they cleaned the floors.

You can guess what happened: One of the more burly Jewish students asked the woke (it wasn't a word then) social studies teacher who sat in that location throughout the day. I was the only Gentile... so I had this kid come up to me and take a swing at me in the middle of the hallway. A fracas ensued with him yelling out that I wrote this nonsense, and since i was already 6'3" at the time let's just say that I held my own. We end up in the principal's office and the whole story comes out and I point out that a) the desks got moved every day, and b) the Nazis invaded Greece in WWII as well, so I'm not exactly their friend. I thought the principal was going to pass out. Everybody understood, we walked out together, and the kid made a good faith effort in the coming days to explain to people that he had made a mistake and that I was ok for a Christian.

So a couple of hours later, i walk into the offending social studies class, with a bunch of my Jewish friends who were in that class in tow. And I just start screaming at the top of my lungs at the teacher, who was this 5'3" divorced woman who until that point I wanted to fuck. Even at 13 years old, i could have beaten the living shit out of her if I had felt like it. She looks at me in complete panic and starts blabbering an apology. I read her the proverbial riot act for a good five minutes and made her apologize to me in front of the entire class at the beginning of the period. Needless to say, she didn't give me shit about anything for the next few months, and was just thankful that my parents didn't go to the superintendent.

Today... goodness knows what would have happened to me.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Seems like a gross overaction by the town and district attorney and they're trying to make an example of the kid.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Baby Jesus, help me...

When I was in 8th grade, some douchebag wrote "Kill All Jews" on a desk. Now, my junior high school was 90% Jewish students and 70% Jewish faculty, so assuming it was a student and not a custodian, that limited the number of kids to about 25 over the course of the day. These were the types of late 70s desks that were basically moving table/chair combinations, so you could make study circles and the like, so even though your place in the classroom was the same every day, the desk changed at the custodian's whims as they cleaned the floors.

You can guess what happened: One of the more burly Jewish students asked the woke (it wasn't a word then) social studies teacher who sat in that location throughout the day. I was the only Gentile... so I had this kid come up to me and take a swing at me in the middle of the hallway. A fracas ensued with him yelling out that I wrote this nonsense, and since i was already 6'3" at the time let's just say that I held my own. We end up in the principal's office and the whole story comes out and I point out that a) the desks got moved every day, and b) the Nazis invaded Greece in WWII as well, so I'm not exactly their friend. I thought the principal was going to pass out. Everybody understood, we walked out together, and the kid made a good faith effort in the coming days to explain to people that he had made a mistake and that I was ok for a Christian.

So a couple of hours later, i walk into the offending social studies class, with a bunch of my Jewish friends who were in that class in tow. And I just start screaming at the top of my lungs at the teacher, who was this 5'3" divorced woman who until that point I wanted to fuck. Even at 13 years old, i could have beaten the living shit out of her if I had felt like it. She looks at me in complete panic and starts blabbering an apology. I read her the proverbial riot act for a good five minutes and made her apologize to me in front of the entire class at the beginning of the period. Needless to say, she didn't give me shit about anything for the next few months, and was just thankful that my parents didn't go to the superintendent.

Today... goodness knows what would have happened to me.

CCFC is low-key one of the best storytellers here.

@ltg: I am definitely not defending the kid, and I think I'd get a little tired of the "He was just joking" excuse after a while, too. I wish there were more information about this.


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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Baby Jesus, help me...

When I was in 8th grade, some douchebag wrote "Kill All Jews" on a desk. Now, my junior high school was 90% Jewish students and 70% Jewish faculty, so assuming it was a student and not a custodian, that limited the number of kids to about 25 over the course of the day. These were the types of late 70s desks that were basically moving table/chair combinations, so you could make study circles and the like, so even though your place in the classroom was the same every day, the desk changed at the custodian's whims as they cleaned the floors.

You can guess what happened: One of the more burly Jewish students asked the woke (it wasn't a word then) social studies teacher who sat in that location throughout the day. I was the only Gentile... so I had this kid come up to me and take a swing at me in the middle of the hallway. A fracas ensued with him yelling out that I wrote this nonsense, and since i was already 6'3" at the time let's just say that I held my own. We end up in the principal's office and the whole story comes out and I point out that a) the desks got moved every day, and b) the Nazis invaded Greece in WWII as well, so I'm not exactly their friend. I thought the principal was going to pass out. Everybody understood, we walked out together, and the kid made a good faith effort in the coming days to explain to people that he had made a mistake and that I was ok for a Christian.

So a couple of hours later, i walk into the offending social studies class, with a bunch of my Jewish friends who were in that class in tow. And I just start screaming at the top of my lungs at the teacher, who was this 5'3" divorced woman who until that point I wanted to fuck. Even at 13 years old, i could have beaten the living shit out of her if I had felt like it. She looks at me in complete panic and starts blabbering an apology. I read her the proverbial riot act for a good five minutes and made her apologize to me in front of the entire class at the beginning of the period. Needless to say, she didn't give me shit about anything for the next few months, and was just thankful that my parents didn't go to the superintendent.

Today... goodness knows what would have happened to me.



:lol: :lol: The most JORRiest story not having JORR in it in board history

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Seems like a gross overaction by the town and district attorney and they're trying to make an example of the kid.

It’s because of the bullshit BW3 story from last week they’re overreacting

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In the past, you solved this shit by having a couple of the football players beat the shit out of the kid. And when he went home and told his father why he got beat up at school, if Dad was first generation or a drunk then he probably takes a couple of whacks at him as well.

Now you don't know if the shithead will come back with a handgun or a lawsuit.

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CCFC is low-key one of the best storytellers here.

And yet I can't even get a fucking 16 seed each March.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Seems like a gross overaction by the town and district attorney and they're trying to make an example of the kid.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Seems like a gross overaction by the town and district attorney and they're trying to make an example of the kid.


someone needs to make an example of you


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@ltg: I am definitely not defending the kid, and I think I'd get a little tired of the "He was just joking" excuse after a while, too. I wish there were more information about this.


Maybe something weird is going on that I am not seeing but there is something puzzling. LTG did not post in this thread as far as I can see and I do not block him. So why would you @ him about your opinion here?

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Why is this being called an overreaction? What is the proper reaction to this?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why is this being called an overreaction? What is the proper reaction to this?

The kid should be executed on live tv.

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@ltg: I am definitely not defending the kid, and I think I'd get a little tired of the "He was just joking" excuse after a while, too. I wish there were more information about this.


Maybe something weird is going on that I am not seeing but there is something puzzling. LTG did not post in this thread as far as I can see and I do not block him. So why would you @ him about your opinion here?


I think tommy confused LTG and Caller Bob.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why is this being called an overreaction? What is the proper reaction to this?


Nothing.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Seems like a gross overaction by the town and district attorney and they're trying to make an example of the kid.

Won't someone think of the poor little racist.


It's hard to charge this kid with a felony when Jussie Smollet gets nothing for his crime.

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pittmike wrote:
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@ltg: I am definitely not defending the kid, and I think I'd get a little tired of the "He was just joking" excuse after a while, too. I wish there were more information about this.


Maybe something weird is going on that I am not seeing but there is something puzzling. LTG did not post in this thread as far as I can see and I do not block him. So why would you @ him about your opinion here?


I think tommy confused LTG and Caller Bob.


easy mistake since Bob is LTG's lap dog


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Why is this being called an overreaction? What is the proper reaction to this?

Does the school really has a role in this, other than the fact that both involved go to that school? And why exactly are criminal charges being filed?

Did the accused student (I can't be bothered to read if he's actually confessed) use school property to make this post? If so, then he probably violated school policies and is subject to discipline including suspension and expulsion. If not??

In a business setting, if one of my direct reports wrote this from their home computer about another direct report and I saw it, I'd be required to report it to my HR department and the employee would eventually be fired. But we all agree to that as a term of employment.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why is this being called an overreaction? What is the proper reaction to this?

The kid should be executed on live tv.


He should be forced to wrestle a girl and lose.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why is this being called an overreaction? What is the proper reaction to this?


Nothing is going to happen to the guy at Buffalo Wild Wings that didn't want to sit next to black people.

Making a defamatory post a hate crime would implicate a number of left-wing journalists.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Does the school really has a role in this, other than the fact that both involved go to that school? And why exactly are criminal charges being filed?
Right or wrong, it seems as if the standard policy is that interactions between students is a school matter even if the offense happens at home. It's the same idea of cyber bullying or fights that take place at a local park rather than at school.
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In a business setting, if one of my direct reports wrote this from their home computer about another direct report and I saw it, I'd be required to report it to my HR department and the employee would eventually be fired. But we all agree to that as a term of employment.
That's the same general principle applies to schools though.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Why is this being called an overreaction? What is the proper reaction to this?

Does the school really has a role in this, other than the fact that both involved go to that school? And why exactly are criminal charges being filed?

Did the accused student (I can't be bothered to read if he's actually confessed) use school property to make this post? If so, then he probably violated school policies and is subject to discipline including suspension and expulsion. If not??


Schools tend to be their own kangaroo courts. Seems like they shouldn't have any jurisdiction over something that does not directly involve the school.

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I'll never understand why some kid can beat the fuck out of another kid and not have it go through the criminal justice system.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Baby Jesus, help me...

When I was in 8th grade, some douchebag wrote "Kill All Jews" on a desk. Now, my junior high school was 90% Jewish students and 70% Jewish faculty, so assuming it was a student and not a custodian, that limited the number of kids to about 25 over the course of the day. These were the types of late 70s desks that were basically moving table/chair combinations, so you could make study circles and the like, so even though your place in the classroom was the same every day, the desk changed at the custodian's whims as they cleaned the floors.

You can guess what happened: One of the more burly Jewish students asked the woke (it wasn't a word then) social studies teacher who sat in that location throughout the day. I was the only Gentile... so I had this kid come up to me and take a swing at me in the middle of the hallway. A fracas ensued with him yelling out that I wrote this nonsense, and since i was already 6'3" at the time let's just say that I held my own. We end up in the principal's office and the whole story comes out and I point out that a) the desks got moved every day, and b) the Nazis invaded Greece in WWII as well, so I'm not exactly their friend. I thought the principal was going to pass out. Everybody understood, we walked out together, and the kid made a good faith effort in the coming days to explain to people that he had made a mistake and that I was ok for a Christian.

So a couple of hours later, i walk into the offending social studies class, with a bunch of my Jewish friends who were in that class in tow. And I just start screaming at the top of my lungs at the teacher, who was this 5'3" divorced woman who until that point I wanted to fuck. Even at 13 years old, i could have beaten the living shit out of her if I had felt like it. She looks at me in complete panic and starts blabbering an apology. I read her the proverbial riot act for a good five minutes and made her apologize to me in front of the entire class at the beginning of the period. Needless to say, she didn't give me shit about anything for the next few months, and was just thankful that my parents didn't go to the superintendent.

Today... goodness knows what would have happened to me.

You would have had a six-month sexual relationship with a mildly-hot teacher, and then posted on social media about it and gotten her ferried off to jail, that's what.

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I'll never understand why some kid can beat another kid and not have it go through the criminal justice system.


I do think that should be an option. The problem is that unless someone has a serious lawyer the police probably wouldn't do anything about it.

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I'll never understand why some kid can beat the fuck out of another kid and not have it go through the criminal justice system.


I actually think it happens a lot.

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tommy wrote:
CCFC is low-key one of the best storytellers here.

And yet I can't even get a fucking 16 seed each March.

Really? Surprising. I do have to say, though, I was only a play-in last year.


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...at the teacher, who was this 5'3" divorced woman who until that point I wanted to fuck.


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