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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:18 pm 
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This contract will look terrible the last 2 years. Would never give a catcher this type of deal at his age. I'm hoping the Cubs move Contreras before having to dish out a huge 4 or 5 year deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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Good signing.

Don't bury the lede though.

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To make room on the 40-man roster, the White Sox designated outfielder Daniel Palka for assignment.

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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Good signing.

Don't bury the lede though.

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To make room on the 40-man roster, the White Sox designated outfielder Daniel Palka for assignment.

You know, when I posted the story yesterday about the guys being added to the Sox 40-man, I wondered why Palka was still there. Good riddance.

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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The balls to tweet this after last year's highly publicized failure of an offseason. Fuck the Sox

I am shocked and happy with the signing, but after them joking at SoxFest about signing both Harper and MAchado, they can go fuck themselves.


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Regarding this contract being bad in two years I doubt it for nothing else than he can also DH. The other reason is no one at all other than hangers on are signing shit for less than 4 years these days.

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Another signing due to the Cuban connection. Was really smart thinking for the Sox to attack the Cuban market inefficiency.

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Palka is a genuinely good guy so I feel bad that he wasn't able to succeed here.

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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Palka is a genuinely good guy so I feel bad that he wasn't able to succeed here.

I think he is a great guy too, but he couldn't hit last year. I was good with him heading into the 2019 season, but jesus....


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Another signing due to the Cuban connection. Was really smart thinking for the Sox to attack the Cuban market inefficiency.

I guess it's a better idea than the "Brother in Law Market inefficiency"


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I read that the rosters are expanding to 26 players. Wondering if the Sox will keep 3 catchers with the expansion.


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Cashman wrote:
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Palka is a genuinely good guy so I feel bad that he wasn't able to succeed here.

I think he is a great guy too, but he couldn't hit last year. I was good with him heading into the 2019 season, but jesus....


Yeah you can't have him on the roster.

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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that much money and years for a 31 year old catcher? ok
He has had the best fWAR for catchers in MLB since 2018.


so what year does he start to drop off? year 1 or 2 of the contract?

I think he's probably already like 30% worse than he was 4 hours ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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So we spent a bunch of money on a catcher who was worse than McCann last year. Well, at least it's something.

.848 OPS. You solve your DH problem if whoever is "off" that day DH's

Also, there is always the fear McCann had a career year and wouldn't repeat.


He had a career half year.

He reverted back to what he was in the second half.

I'd sell high on him if possible. Maybe he brings you a good middle reliever.

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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that much money and years for a 31 year old catcher? ok


I hear you on this.

He did just turn 31 so you have him for years 31-24. Also, his bat plays at other positions

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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that much money and years for a 31 year old catcher? ok
He has had the best fWAR for catchers in MLB since 2018.


so what year does he start to drop off? year 1 or 2 of the contract?

I think he's probably already like 30% worse than he was 4 hours ago.


definitely in Keith Law's mind

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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The balls to tweet this after last year's highly publicized failure of an offseason. Fuck the Sox


I like that they put a lot of moments against Cub pitching

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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The balls to tweet this after last year's highly publicized failure of an offseason. Fuck the Sox

:lol: yeah that is something. As if Grandal is some huge prize too....solid player but nothing special.

Palka being gone just sets stage for JORRs prediction of him being an all star on another team

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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It's a really good signing. LH (switch), middle of the order power hitter with a high OBP. That is EXACTLY what they needed offensively.

He is a great catcher defensively, despite his cruddy playoffs two years ago. That is going to be essential with a young staff.

Also, the big get during this off season is supposed to be 1-2 veteran starting pitchers. Grandal has to be an attraction (obviously far, far less than dollars), especially if they are targeting Ryu, which is a distinct possibility.

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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this is one of those guys where he's been above average and then once signed by the white sox forgets how to play baseball


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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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It's very early in FA and the market hasn't been set, so yeah....they're going to have to overpay. There are worse contracts and he'll end up being a DH.

I like it. They've done much dumber free agents, like Adam Dunn and Adam LaRoche.

They really need to figure out a left handed starting pitcher....doubt they'll do that in Free agency, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Grandal
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We had 2 major holes to fill before today. We still have 2 major holes to fill. And we're 73 mildough lighter.


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We had 2 major holes to fill before today. We still have 2 major holes to fill. And we're 73 mildough lighter.


I think you can wait on RF and let value come to you.

I'd jump on pitching as quickly as possible.

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We had 2 major holes to fill before today. We still have 2 major holes to fill. And we're 73 mildough lighter.


I think you can wait on RF and let value come to you.

I'd jump on pitching as quickly as possible.

I just texted that to my kid. They better get me a starting pitcher, and a damned good one, or I am going to be pissed.


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We had 2 major holes to fill before today. We still have 2 major holes to fill. And we're 73 mildough lighter.

You need a second baseman, two more outfielders and two more starters


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Nardi wrote:
We had 2 major holes to fill before today. We still have 2 major holes to fill. And we're 73 mildough lighter.

You need a second baseman, two more outfielders and two more starters


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Wow. Look at how many obsessed Cubs fans we have today.

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Nardi wrote:
We had 2 major holes to fill before today. We still have 2 major holes to fill. And we're 73 mildough lighter.

You need a second baseman, two more outfielders and two more starters

We got time. Theorectically, we have Robert and Eloy in the outfield and the midget at 2nd. There's also the possibility Timmay has to move to Center. That's the shit that's in the wash for this year. Along with Kopech, Lopez, and Dunning.

We absolutely have to have a balls to the wall, Boras-type starting pitcher THIS offseason. No ands, or ifs.


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Even if Michael Co Pitch and Cease both give you significant innings you still have have to replace Lopez and Covey


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Doesn't have to be today. Got 2 offseasons, two trade deadlines, and a whole season and a half of games.


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