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Apparently the Commissioner thinks the regular season is meaningless which is why he is floating the idea of multiple tournaments throughout that season.


He also had to beg teams not to rest their star players during national telecast two years ago. Almost every year someone .500 or worse makes the playoffs in the NBA. That rarely happens in football and takes a particularly bad division. In baseball it only happened once where a team .500 or worse made the playoffs and that was during a strike shortened season in 1981.

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Odd thread. If you don’t like basketball then yeah it’s probably meaningless. If you enjoy watching basketball then of course it’s not meaningless.

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Odd thread. If you don’t like basketball then yeah it’s probably meaningless. If you enjoy watching basketball then of course it’s not meaningless.


Thats the point. The people that typically complain about it are the ones that dislike the NBA.

"Don't watch the NBA til the playoffs" is typically uttered by those that don't like the NBA. I neglected to mention basketball because their disdain is usually not applied to the college game.

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One of the dumbest sports related notions that I believe I have ever heard. This is typically uttered by non NBA fans.


Lebron doesn't think it matters so I'll go with him in this NBA.

Jordan thought it mattered. He never missed games. But if he did, they would have still won six titles. It was just a different mind set.


Why does the No. 1 seed win 72% of the time and why has no 7 or 8 (only 1 6th seed) won if the regular season doesn't matter?

Still have not nor will i get an actual answer to this rather relevant question.


Why was Lebron able to make the finals every year despite not being the one seed most of the time?


Because he always had the best team though not the best record and it was never as if he had to beat the best team anyway.

Again if the regular season is meaningless then why have the No.1 seeds won 72% of the time?

That hasn't occurred in any of the sports where the regular seasons are you know, meaningful?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Apparently the Commissioner thinks the regular season is meaningless which is why he is floating the idea of multiple tournaments throughout that season.


As usual you're wrong.

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Maybe FavreFan will find this point less "meaningless". On 2nd thought maybe not.


Since the wild-card round of the playoffs started in 1970, 10 wild-card teams have advanced to the Super Bowl. Six have won the Super Bowl -- the Oakland Raiders (1980), Denver Broncos (1997), Baltimore Ravens (2000), Pittsburgh Steelers (2005), New York Giants (2007) and Green Bay Packers (2010).Jan 6, 2016


There is no equivalent of this occurring in the NBA. None whatsoever.

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Apparently the Commissioner thinks the regular season is meaningless which is why he is floating the idea of multiple tournaments throughout that season.


As usual you're wrong.



Then what is the reason for Silver suggesting things that would radically alter the game?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/23/nbas-radi ... f-shakeup/

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Apparently the Commissioner thinks the regular season is meaningless which is why he is floating the idea of multiple tournaments throughout that season.


As usual you're wrong.



Then what is the reason for Silver suggesting things that would radically alter the game?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/23/nbas-radi ... f-shakeup/


He wants to spice up the season during periods where there are lulls in it. It has nothing to do with thinking the Regular season is meaningless.

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It's always somebody who is completely grounded, perfectly hinged, and sane that replies four times in a row in the same thread.

Actually it sounds more like the playoffs are meaningless. Just have the number one and number two seeds battle it out and then go straight to the finals. Basketball doesn't need to be played after Memorial day anyway, get the season done earlier and make room for the far superior summer and spring Time Sports of baseball and golf.

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I like the NBA. But you can also throw away multiple games before you play them and not impact you making the playoffs if you are good.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Apparently the Commissioner thinks the regular season is meaningless which is why he is floating the idea of multiple tournaments throughout that season.


As usual you're wrong.



Then what is the reason for Silver suggesting things that would radically alter the game?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/23/nbas-radi ... f-shakeup/

He wants to ruin the regular season like they have the All-Star game?


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I like the NBA. But you can also throw away multiple games before you play them and not impact you making the playoffs if you are good.


The 5th 7th and 8th seeds have never won championships in the NBA.


The Wild Card Team in the NFL has won 6th times and has played in 10 of them.

Its much easier to make the argument that the NFL season doesn't matter than it is the NBA. Baseball too. If you are a No 1 seed in the NBA there is a likelihood that you will end up winning the championship.

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It's always somebody who is completely grounded, perfectly hinged, and sane that replies four times in a row in the same thread.

Actually it sounds more like the playoffs are meaningless. Just have the number one and number two seeds battle it out and then go straight to the finals. Basketball doesn't need to be played after Memorial day anyway, get the season done earlier and make room for the far superior summer and spring Time Sports of baseball and golf.


You have been banned on multiple occasions and you are known to have stalker tendencies (on full display currently). You have to be one dense motherfucker to believe that you are an authority on what's "sane" and "unhinged" and what's not. You are a pathetic, perverted loser that jacks off to being an asshole on the internet. How miserable is that?

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I like the NBA. But you can also throw away multiple games before you play them and not impact you making the playoffs if you are good.


The 5th 7th and 8th seeds have never won championships in the NBA.


The Wild Card Team in the NFL has won 6th times and has played in 10 of them.

Its much easier to make the argument that the NFL season doesn't matter than it is the NBA. Baseball too. If you are a No 1 seed in the NBA there is a likelihood that you will end up winning the championship.


It is a seven game series in the NBA. Not a one game playoff.

12 out of 32 make NFL playoffs

16 out of 30 make NBA playoffs


Good NBA teams can take multiple games off during regular season and still win the title. NFL teams take multiple games off during the regular season and they miss the playoffs.

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I like the NBA. But you can also throw away multiple games before you play them and not impact you making the playoffs if you are good.


The 5th 7th and 8th seeds have never won championships in the NBA.


The Wild Card Team in the NFL has won 6th times and has played in 10 of them.

Its much easier to make the argument that the NFL season doesn't matter than it is the NBA. Baseball too. If you are a No 1 seed in the NBA there is a likelihood that you will end up winning the championship.


It is a seven game series in the NBA. Not a one game playoff.

12 out of 32 make NFL playoffs

16 out of 30 make NBA playoffs


Good NBA teams can take multiple games off during regular season and still win the title. NFL teams take multiple games off during the regular season and they miss the playoffs.


This isn't about making the playoffs. Its about winning the championship.

The greatest indicator of who wins the championship in the NBA is regular season performance. The same regular season that people here continuously says doesn't matter.

If this were actually true then why hasn't there ever been a team "take off" just enough to sneak into a 7th or 8th slot gear up only to later make the playoffs? Only one 6th seed has ever won the championship.


In Football 10 wild card teams have made it to the Super Bowl. 6 have won. Its much easier to suggest that the regular season in the NFL doesn't matter.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Apparently the Commissioner thinks the regular season is meaningless which is why he is floating the idea of multiple tournaments throughout that season.


As usual you're wrong.



Then what is the reason for Silver suggesting things that would radically alter the game?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/23/nbas-radi ... f-shakeup/


He wants to spice up the season during periods where there are lulls in it. It has nothing to do with thinking the Regular season is meaningless.


"Spice up", i.e. make it more meaningful.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Apparently the Commissioner thinks the regular season is meaningless which is why he is floating the idea of multiple tournaments throughout that season.


As usual you're wrong.



Then what is the reason for Silver suggesting things that would radically alter the game?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/23/nbas-radi ... f-shakeup/


He wants to spice up the season during periods where there are lulls in it. It has nothing to do with thinking the Regular season is meaningless.


"Spice up", i.e. make it more meaningful.


No it means to make more interesting. Nice try though.

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long time guy wrote:
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I like the NBA. But you can also throw away multiple games before you play them and not impact you making the playoffs if you are good.


The 5th 7th and 8th seeds have never won championships in the NBA.


The Wild Card Team in the NFL has won 6th times and has played in 10 of them.

Its much easier to make the argument that the NFL season doesn't matter than it is the NBA. Baseball too. If you are a No 1 seed in the NBA there is a likelihood that you will end up winning the championship.


It is a seven game series in the NBA. Not a one game playoff.

12 out of 32 make NFL playoffs

16 out of 30 make NBA playoffs


Good NBA teams can take multiple games off during regular season and still win the title. NFL teams take multiple games off during the regular season and they miss the playoffs.


This isn't about making the playoffs. Its about winning the championship.

The greatest indicator of who wins the championship in the NBA is regular season performance. The same regular season that people here continuously says doesn't matter.

If this were actually true then why hasn't there ever been a team "take off" just enough to sneak into a 7th or 8th slot gear up only to later make the playoffs? Only one 6th seed has ever won the championship.


In Football 10 wild card teams have made it to the Super Bowl. 6 have won. Its much easier to suggest that the regular season in the NFL doesn't matter.


The talent disparity is so large it is hard for a great team to fall to 7 or 8 in NBA. The best player in the NBA last year sat their best player over 25% of the season intentionally and it did not matter. The seeds in NFL are not true seeds either. If you have the second best record in NFL, but second in your division, you are the 5 seed.

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I like the NBA. But you can also throw away multiple games before you play them and not impact you making the playoffs if you are good.


The 5th 7th and 8th seeds have never won championships in the NBA.


The Wild Card Team in the NFL has won 6th times and has played in 10 of them.

Its much easier to make the argument that the NFL season doesn't matter than it is the NBA. Baseball too. If you are a No 1 seed in the NBA there is a likelihood that you will end up winning the championship.


It is a seven game series in the NBA. Not a one game playoff.

12 out of 32 make NFL playoffs

16 out of 30 make NBA playoffs


Good NBA teams can take multiple games off during regular season and still win the title. NFL teams take multiple games off during the regular season and they miss the playoffs.


This isn't about making the playoffs. Its about winning the championship.

The greatest indicator of who wins the championship in the NBA is regular season performance. The same regular season that people here continuously says doesn't matter.

If this were actually true then why hasn't there ever been a team "take off" just enough to sneak into a 7th or 8th slot gear up only to later make the playoffs? Only one 6th seed has ever won the championship.


In Football 10 wild card teams have made it to the Super Bowl. 6 have won. Its much easier to suggest that the regular season in the NFL doesn't matter.


The talent disparity is so large it is hard for a great team to fall to 7 or 8 in NBA. The best player in the NBA last year sat their best player over 25% of the season intentionally and it did not matter. The seeds in NFL are not true seeds either. If you have the second best record in NFL, but second in your division, you are the 5 seed.


But if the team can sleepwalk through the regular season only to turn it on during the playoffs and win anyway talent disparity shouldn't much matter. They can rest players or load manage their players to a 7th or 8th seed and still win the championship because after all "regular season" doesn't matter. Its never happened.

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No other league has to have a "resting" policy.

https://theathletic.com/1405119/2019/11 ... t-the-fix/

In theory, the “Load Management Invitational” isn’t the worst idea simply because the NBA regular season is broken, and Commissioner Adam Silver is trying to do something about it. Ratings for national TV games are down. Zion Williamson’s absence and the Golden State Warriors missing their All-Star backcourt are factors. Players resting is also an issue.

The league has gone out of its way to make the schedule more player-friendly and teams practice less than ever before yet players are still taking games off. Kawhi Leonard, the founding father of load management, skipped two ESPN games in consecutive weeks. After the most recent “rest day” his coach, Doc Rivers, said that Leonard was feeling great. That small comment cost the Clippers $50,000 because according to the league the statement was “inconsistent with Leonard’s health status.” In other words, the Clippers embarrassed the league because its integrity was questioned.

As a result, the NBA sent a memo to all 30 teams to reiterate the protocol under the player resting policy.

In the memo, obtained by The Athletic, the league reminded its teams that they are “prohibited from resting healthy players for any high-profile, nationally-televised game. Any violation of this provision shall constitute conduct prejudicial or detrimental to the NBA and shall result in a fine of at least $100,000.”

The league also made it clear that “a team should not rest multiple healthy players for the same game.”

Load management may benefit the player in the long term, but in the here and now call it what it is — anti-fan. If the players don’t seem to care about the regular season why should the paying customers?

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No other league has to have a "resting" policy.

https://theathletic.com/1405119/2019/11 ... t-the-fix/

In theory, the “Load Management Invitational” isn’t the worst idea simply because the NBA regular season is broken, and Commissioner Adam Silver is trying to do something about it. Ratings for national TV games are down. Zion Williamson’s absence and the Golden State Warriors missing their All-Star backcourt are factors. Players resting is also an issue.

The league has gone out of its way to make the schedule more player-friendly and teams practice less than ever before yet players are still taking games off. Kawhi Leonard, the founding father of load management, skipped two ESPN games in consecutive weeks. After the most recent “rest day” his coach, Doc Rivers, said that Leonard was feeling great. That small comment cost the Clippers $50,000 because according to the league the statement was “inconsistent with Leonard’s health status.” In other words, the Clippers embarrassed the league because its integrity was questioned.

As a result, the NBA sent a memo to all 30 teams to reiterate the protocol under the player resting policy.

In the memo, obtained by The Athletic, the league reminded its teams that they are “prohibited from resting healthy players for any high-profile, nationally-televised game. Any violation of this provision shall constitute conduct prejudicial or detrimental to the NBA and shall result in a fine of at least $100,000.”

The league also made it clear that “a team should not rest multiple healthy players for the same game.”

Load management may benefit the player in the long term, but in the here and now call it what it is — anti-fan. If the players don’t seem to care about the regular season why should the paying customers?


None of this has anything to do with why teams with the No. 1 seed in the NBA win 72% of the time.

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Only 11 NBA franchises have won a title in the last 36 years.

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Only 11 NBA franchises have won a title in the last 36 years.


Have any of them been a 5th, 7th or 8th seed?

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There have been 6 NFL wild card teams (equivalent to a 7 seed or 8 seed in the NBA) win the Super Bowl. There has never been a 7 or i seed win an NBA championship.

NFL regular season really doesn't matter all that much if you are hoping to determine who the potential champion will be.

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Only 11 NBA franchises have won a title in the last 36 years.


Have any of them been a 5th, 7th or 8th seed?


If the NBA had the same seeding procedures and division structure as the NFL there would have been.

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Only 11 NBA franchises have won a title in the last 36 years.


Have any of them been a 5th, 7th or 8th seed?


If the NBA had the same seeding procedures and division structure as the NFL there would have been.


Now its about seeding? I thought it was about "Single elimination" versus best of 7?

Just for the record you do know that there was a time when all of the playoff series were not Best of 7 don't you?

First round used to be best of 3. That is about as close to single elimination as you can get without being single elimination. Still no 5 7 or 8 seeds.

Second round best of 5. Still no 5 7 or 8 seeds.

The NFL even rewards their top seeds by providing a bye for the Wild Card round and they can not produce a higher %. All they have to do is win 2 games and you can guarantee that one of the teams will win the Super Bowl. Still does not have a better % than the NBA.

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Maybe FavreFan will find this point less "meaningless". On 2nd thought maybe not.


Since the wild-card round of the playoffs started in 1970, 10 wild-card teams have advanced to the Super Bowl. Six have won the Super Bowl -- the Oakland Raiders (1980), Denver Broncos (1997), Baltimore Ravens (2000), Pittsburgh Steelers (2005), New York Giants (2007) and Green Bay Packers (2010).Jan 6, 2016


There is no equivalent of this occurring in the NBA. None whatsoever.


It's single game elimination.

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You have to win at least three playoff games to win a super bowl there, teach.


Reading is a skill. Unfortunately its rather obvious that an ignorant dope like you requires a great deal of "reteaching". Maybe your Fraternal Order of Men compadre Darkside can provide for it.

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Maybe FavreFan will find this point less "meaningless". On 2nd thought maybe not.


Since the wild-card round of the playoffs started in 1970, 10 wild-card teams have advanced to the Super Bowl. Six have won the Super Bowl -- the Oakland Raiders (1980), Denver Broncos (1997), Baltimore Ravens (2000), Pittsburgh Steelers (2005), New York Giants (2007) and Green Bay Packers (2010).Jan 6, 2016


There is no equivalent of this occurring in the NBA. None whatsoever.


It's single game elimination.


Which makes the regular season all the more meaningless don't you think?

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